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Machia was in bad shape from the sedative. He even stated before falling down that all of his strength was gone. That doesn't really mean anything for Endeavor.
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calm down dude lol I got rid of the last sentence because I also realized it wouldnt mess up scaling, but this doesn't change the fact of what I said above so plz dont ignore what I also said before thatIt doesn't mess up any scaling, no one scales to Nejire's AP.
Provide some evidence that this messes up the scaling.
I literally did though??? I already said to above too. Nejire being Low 7-B+ wouldnt make sense by the fact that the NHE (who are comparable to Hood) gets taken down by Nejire yet Endeavor had to beat that same Hood with his full powerNothing I stated there implied any aggression?
Nejire still scales, you've yet to provide any proof that Nejire can't scale beyond you not liking it, or that she's a student. Those aren't arguments, you need to provide a scene of Nejire's AP being vastly inferior to Hood level opponents. Or some kind of statement that makes her not scale.
Saying it doesn't make sense to you is not a argument.
If u honestly cant see what im saying then theres an issue right there. I legit gave u an argument and for some odd reason u refuse to even see what I mean. The mere fact she could harm an NHE while Endeavor couldn't unless he used his FP says so muchShe didn't take it down, what are you talking about?
She harmed it, she didn't killing it or knock it out, her attack seemed to injure it. Why are you comparing Endeavor and Nejire, there's nothing in universe that compares them to each other. Nothing says Nejire's AP can't be on the same tier as Endeavor or the others. I refuse to response to you again until you actually provide a proper argument.
As I do not want to waste anyone's time.
Then why is Nejire Low 7-B+ with her waves? im not trying to dig out at anyone here because I know thats how Horikoshi does things, but im a bit confused then if Nejire fought someone who is "comparable" in a different wayThere is no evidence that any of the NHE or other High-ends scale to Hood physically beyond the base stats.
Again "comparable" doesn't mean the exact same physical strength to Horikoshi otherwise he would have given all the High-ends strength enhancing quirks.
Hood has like 4 of them while Helmet has none, this makes him not only physically inferior to Hood but even the other High-ends Mirko fought.
However, he is considered "comparable" since he has spatial manip which is arguably more dangerous.
If a character in MHA can restrain or go toe toe in a fist fight with Helmet, it does not suddenly mean that they are comparable to Hood in a fist fight or strength contest.
And the same probably goes for all the other HEs and NHEs. Quirks is too varied of a power system for people to make physical strength the only metric for "comparable".
She probably harmed it, since we can't be to sure we settled on a possibly. But it seems to be struggling against her, and was trying to move.Nejire didn't just harm a NHE, she restrained one too at the end of the fight by pinning it with her waves. And she did it long enough to speak out a sentence.
Then why is Nejire Low 7-B+ with her waves? im not trying to dig out at anyone here because I know thats how Horikoshi does things, but im a bit confused then if Nejire fought someone who is "comparable" in a different way
Yep are we also can’t forget after Mirio said they’re comparable to Hood he said that you can’t get tagged by those things or your doneThey were stated to be as strong as Hood, that's a clear statement of strength.
There's nothing to discuss, unless you have proof Mirio is wrong. Everyone saw Hood's strength on tv and fight Endeavor.
To be fair, saying a character is strong in mha doesn't translate solidly to AP. Characters saw DS's speed coupled with his seeming lack of weaknesses and Tokoyami's ability to just avoid danger and concluded him as incredibly strong and seemingly invincible. Todoroki is also considered crazy strong "stronger than most pros" but his raw AP is inferior to Bakugo and others like 5% Deku who never received such accolades at the time.I don't really understand what the problem is here, the Near High-Ends were stated to be as strong as Hood, so the complete hospital High-Ends would obviously scale as well.
That's kinda hard to do.Can you guys me your opinion on their strength with numbers? Since they're scaling to 3.9 MT, use that as the baseline.
USJ Nomu>3.9 MT since the All Might he was equal to was an unknown amount stronger than his fight with Wolfram. While Kamino All Might and AFO are<3.9 MT as All Might's power got weaker, though not enough to go below Low 7-B+. Low 7-B+ starts at 3.65 MT, which is where I'd put Kamino All Might and AFO.
Where would you place everyone who scales to Low 7-B? Who's above or below 3.9 MT?
Idk if his 100% specifically is stated to be increasing in power, but it's at least heavily implied that the power itself has just been getting stronger the longer he holds it, as it is intended to work.Oh yeah I've been meaning to ask this, but where's it said Deku's 100% has been increasing in power?
One For All getting stronger over time is the main basis of the Quirk, as All Might explained to Deku using torches.Oh yeah I've been meaning to ask this, but where's it said Deku's 100% has been increasing in power?
Yeah you’re right. Checked the chapters and the first notes OFA grew rapidly before the 4 month skipIdk if his 100% specifically is stated to be increasing in power, but it's at least heavily implied that the power itself has just been getting stronger the longer he holds it, as it is intended to work.
For instance, the emergence of the users was due to the quirk not only being passed, but also the added strength Deku has put into at, as the first says that they only recently gained the abilities they now have due to the power going past a certain point.
So naturally, if the power is increasing, the amount he's using is also increasing.
There's also him beating up Shigaraki who was supposed to be at the least USJ All Might tier who is unknowingly stronger than the 3.9 MT feat. So he went from being somewhere weaker than USJ AM to being able to rock someone on his levels shit, and would've killed him if he didn't have regen.
Yeah no, the doctor literally says that High-Ends have superior stats to the Upper-Tiers like the USJ Nomu.High Ends are only considered better because they have more quirks and are INTELLIGENT, unlike USJ Nomu.
Doctor verbatim says that the High Ends are superior in stats to the Upper Tier Nomu, with a picture of USJ Nomu for reference of what an Upper Tier is. The belief that USJ Nomu is some sort of outlier is fan only belief. He was just built to be strong, fast and immune to blunt damage, which is all AM has, which makes the fight harder.Sorry if this is a necro or anything but there is no evidence that the Near High Ends, or even Hood, are anywhere close to USJ Nomu.
USJ Nomu in terms of pure power, is way above them all.
High Ends are only considered better because they have more quirks and are INTELLIGENT, unlike USJ Nomu.
USJ Nomu was completely fine after All Might punched him away. He “lost” because he lacked his own intelligence to return to USJ on his own and Shigaraki didn’t have the means to send him orders from that distance. If he was a High End he would’ve just come back and one punched All Might who now couldnt even take a single step without losing his muscles form.
The image is on Hood’s page for his attack potency. I never learned how to put in images for this new site, it’s weirdThat link only shows a blank image for me.