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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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In what sense? I either agree or disagree with you.
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Oh like the Asian American model minority considering well I am Chinese
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Well, I agree that the idea is incorrect and merely a stereotype, but the concept very much exists in many people's perspectives, which is the problem.
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Spinner was helping Tomura commit mass genocide and kill every single person in Japan and yet calls Deku a murderer for stopping him. The decay wave would have killed heteromorphs too.
He is a hypocrite.
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They didn't say Spinner isn't a hypocrite, read their comment again.
They're just saying that Shoji's being whatever isn't what make Spinner a hypocrite.
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It kinda does though. Shoji went through much worse and Spinner and decided to be a hero.
Spinner got bullied a little and went to join the teenager murdering terrorist group.
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They are... different people?
I get that they both look like Ninja Turtles, but Spinner is not the same guy.
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He didn't say he wasn't a murderer, he just knew Deku didn't want to be one. And his plan wasn't to become a beacon who saw Heteromorphs as superior to others, he got treated like shit for 20 years and wanted to tear shit down and rebuild it.
Plus, his friend literally died. If Bakugo went ballistic and someone shot him, Deku wouldn't exactly be a fan of that person.
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Yeah by vaporizing Japan's landmass. Sure, rebuild on the ocean.
Similar circumstances (well Shoji had it worse but still). One chooses to be a hero, the other chooses to be a terrorist. They are the same people, exactly. One chose to do good, the other chose evil.
It's not about him not liking Deku. It's about his glorification of Shigaraki as some hero and savior even though he 100% would have died along side everyone if Deku hadn't stop Shigaraki's decay wave in Mt Fuji. He is like a Cult follower.
And Deku is not a murderer, Shigaraki got buried by AFO, and AFO was already dead. Plus it was self defense and it was a terrorist he was killing.
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Did he ever tell him that was the plan? I think he was plotting something else beforehand.
"man, this guy is a hypocrite for doing something when someone else did another thing."
Was he aware of any of that? Was there evidence of it broadcasted?
I mean, Spinner didn't see the souls smacking each other around.
Terrorist barely means anything, Deku was a terrorist in the 3rd movie.
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He litreally yells out I will destroy everything in Season 5.
In the same scenario and position. Yes.
It's not like we say a ******* flying drone recording them or something. Did you even read the manga.
Sure, execpt that AFO coming back was seen by everyone on the field. Including the camera.
There is a difference being falsely branded a terrorist by a cult in control of government higher ups and making Hiroshima look like a firecracker. We know for a fact that Shigaraki is a terrorist. And it means a lot dumbass.
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I swear if I see one more comment online calling Deku a loser or bum, Imma lose it
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"But the meme is funn-"
No, when it's causing a misrepresention of the story and character it isn't funny anymore. People start to not see it as a joke anymore
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It's not funny in the slightest for me. But humor is subjective.
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So I didn't here many opinions on this but did you like/dislike the "AFO all along" plot points ?
I was is in a Robot vs Sister Sage poll and it made me realize how god awful the plan was, gave me Aizen flashbacks. And it made me think, has any mastermind villain ever had a plan that even remotely makes sense without asspulling and plot convince. And how did AFO do in that regard. Let's break it down.
Shimura Family manipulation - He is actively involved in Tenko's Dad's life long enough to not only know his personality but influence it. He is present in person and it makes it way more plausible that doing it with his ass glued to a throne. No hero coming into check on Shigaraki and citizens not helping was pretty much lucky stroke.
1. No heroes around on patrol (Either that or he took them out before hand)
2. No Citizen that encountered him was trying to help. This is the only one that makes no sense. IRL a bleeding kid would be flocked and atleast a few people will stop a kid to ask and help. I should know, flesh wounds and bleeding injuries due to dumb shit activity was my yearly routine in school days.
Dabi - Well him keeping a eye on the Number 2 hero and his kids makes complete sense and in character. And Surprisingly this is a failure that nearly botched his backup bodies.
No. 6 - Another failure experiment.
Tomura Shigaraki - This one went **** up so bad. Sure the double body got him out of prison but the whole reason he is in prison is because of Shigaraki needing to be saved from the heroes. Aside for a brief period of control, he got pretty much locked away by Tomura.
Huh actually his plans make sense and also fail sometimes. AFO passes.
I was is in a Robot vs Sister Sage poll and it made me realize how god awful the plan was, gave me Aizen flashbacks. And it made me think, has any mastermind villain ever had a plan that even remotely makes sense without asspulling and plot convince. And how did AFO do in that regard. Let's break it down.
Shimura Family manipulation - He is actively involved in Tenko's Dad's life long enough to not only know his personality but influence it. He is present in person and it makes it way more plausible that doing it with his ass glued to a throne. No hero coming into check on Shigaraki and citizens not helping was pretty much lucky stroke.
1. No heroes around on patrol (Either that or he took them out before hand)
2. No Citizen that encountered him was trying to help. This is the only one that makes no sense. IRL a bleeding kid would be flocked and atleast a few people will stop a kid to ask and help. I should know, flesh wounds and bleeding injuries due to dumb shit activity was my yearly routine in school days.
Dabi - Well him keeping a eye on the Number 2 hero and his kids makes complete sense and in character. And Surprisingly this is a failure that nearly botched his backup bodies.
No. 6 - Another failure experiment.
Tomura Shigaraki - This one went **** up so bad. Sure the double body got him out of prison but the whole reason he is in prison is because of Shigaraki needing to be saved from the heroes. Aside for a brief period of control, he got pretty much locked away by Tomura.
Huh actually his plans make sense and also fail sometimes. AFO passes.
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I wish I could find the original tweet but it was a fairly big account on Twitter mocking the ending and when someone asked him why he didn't post the rest of the chapter, he said it's because he didn't know it existed until the replies mentioned it.
This feels much worse than what happened with Attack on Titan. People arent just mocking the ending, theyre being completely disingenuous or lying about it because it's the popular thing to do. It's insane
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Like this man Deku saved the world, helped reform society with his actions, so much so that the number of villains is decreasing year by year, and yeah he lost his powers but bro was given a super suit because his friends thought he deserved to still be a hero. People always complained about MHA having no consequences and the one time the series clearly shows consequences for what Deku did, they write it off and mock him. I don't understand. I can almost guarantee that if he somehow got his powers back in some convoluted way, people would be calling this a Disney show.
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You can’t please these psycho’s, they hate everything
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Bro, every five minutes of scrolling on Twitter I'm bombarded with pôrn of Deku getting cûcked (usually by Bakugo or even mineta). This is unbearable. And I use Twitter to see MHA news and art and talk with people in the community so it's not like I can just stop using it. Even in positive posts trolls will spam põrn of Deku getting cûcked in the comments/replies. Literally no anime character ever has been clowned on like this. Maybe even in all of fiction
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Could he hyperbole
People aren't the same people just because they're marginalized in the same way.
FTL Drone???
I mean, yeah, but in no world are people understanding what was going on there without it being explained by one of the people who was in the guy's brain. He could've thought it was that Shigaraki-AFO-fusion business happening again.
Never disagreed.
Terrorist doesn't really mean that much, morally speaking. American Revolution? Terrorists. It just means you're fighting against the government for political purposes.
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Besides the Soul Manipulation (Destruction) from the OFA transfer, do we have anything else for Final War Arc Izuku in terms of abilities that need to be added?
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I don't believe so?
Speaking of abilities, though, I don't think Shigaraki's Poison Manipulation resistance is legit. The scan is fine, the problem is that he didn't actually resist the poison's effects. He just expelled the poison from his body before it could take effect
Speaking of abilities, though, I don't think Shigaraki's Poison Manipulation resistance is legit. The scan is fine, the problem is that he didn't actually resist the poison's effects. He just expelled the poison from his body before it could take effect
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I have no idea how that works. Best for someone more knowledgeable than me should answer that.
But how exactly should the profile label it if it doesn't count?
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What about this? Since the poison was in his body, and he was able to isolate and expel from his body?
Body Control
Body Control is the ability to manipulate the physiology and anatomy of your own body beyond any normal biological limit. Control of basic functions - allows one to control the basic functions of the body, including body temperature, tone of voice, enhancing the senses, increasing the efficiency...
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•Advanced function control - allows one to not only manage the vital functions of the body and increase its capabilities but also to do what is impossible for an ordinary person. For example, fully controlling the hair (to lengthen them to increase strength, turned into a needle, etc.), manipulating their blood (and other body fluids), lengthening nails or bones (including changing the shape of the bones), etc. At this level of the ability the body can also, to some extent, change its shape.
Since the poison was in his body, and he was able to isolate and expel from his body
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Had already has Body Control.
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I thought it was fine as being a part of Reactive Evolution like it is now, considering it's literally his body evolving to do this. It can also be added to his Body Control justification
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Yeah, but if his Resistance to Poison Manipulation gets removed in a future CRT, his feat of removing the poison from his body could be added to Body Control
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It's already mentioned on his Reactive Evolution stat, so all we need to do is remove poison resistance.
I'll bring it up in the CRT.
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I'm pretty sure I saw a izuku blog that had Izuku resist soul Manipulation due to ofa resisting having his Quirk stolen
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That's just resistance to power absorption, AFO isn't stealing Izuku's soul or something like that.
The ability lets him steal Quirks and Quirks just happen to contain a piece of a person's soul. So when he takes a Quirk, that piece comes along for the ride.
The willpower of the others can resistance the stealing, but that's not resisting any soul manipulation.
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Something I noticed is that people seem to think Izuku was powerless for eight years.
But that's completely wrong, the eight year time skip is from the end of the final battle. We know this because Shoji says the uprising happened eight years ago. Meaning two of those eight years were spent at U.A. High School. And we see from the panels that Izuku loses the Embers after he graduates school.
Highly doubt Izuku instantly lost the Embers and became a teacher. Aizawa's question towards him about missing his power makes little sense if it was six years ago. Izuku even seems bothered by it still. Aizawa makes it seems like it was somewhat recent, like over 1 or 2 years ago, though that timeframe is pure speculation on my part.
Also, Eri would be seventeen in that case and she doesn't look seventeen.
Dai also started his first year of elementary during the time of the All Out War Arc, which is 6 years in Japan. He's in Junior High after the time skip, which is three years. If it was eight years after graduation, Dai should be in high school already since that'd be ten years in total, and nothing suggest he's been held back or anything.
So no, Izuku was not powerless for eight years nor did the suit take eight years to make for him. We have no idea how long either of those took.
We might get more information in the final volume release in December, hopefully.
But that's completely wrong, the eight year time skip is from the end of the final battle. We know this because Shoji says the uprising happened eight years ago. Meaning two of those eight years were spent at U.A. High School. And we see from the panels that Izuku loses the Embers after he graduates school.
Highly doubt Izuku instantly lost the Embers and became a teacher. Aizawa's question towards him about missing his power makes little sense if it was six years ago. Izuku even seems bothered by it still. Aizawa makes it seems like it was somewhat recent, like over 1 or 2 years ago, though that timeframe is pure speculation on my part.
Also, Eri would be seventeen in that case and she doesn't look seventeen.
Dai also started his first year of elementary during the time of the All Out War Arc, which is 6 years in Japan. He's in Junior High after the time skip, which is three years. If it was eight years after graduation, Dai should be in high school already since that'd be ten years in total, and nothing suggest he's been held back or anything.
So no, Izuku was not powerless for eight years nor did the suit take eight years to make for him. We have no idea how long either of those took.
We might get more information in the final volume release in December, hopefully.
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Ye, plus move the scan over I'd say
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Theory time: I believe Izuku's new suit is meant to mimic OFA and his old Quirks, obviously it makes him stronger all around.
But the gauntlets can likely shoot out blast of air like Air Force. And considering All Might had it, I'm certain he has something to imitate Blackwhip as well. He still has his Iron Soles as well, but maybe there could be some mechanism that builds up tension from certain movements and can release it all at once kind of like Fa Jin?
There could be some kind of sensor or scanner that could keep track of people, likely as some way of imitating Danger Sense? Maybe it's built into his mask?
A Smokescreen generator would be easy. It looks like he's wearing a jetpack as well for Float, and maybe he has some extra thrusters for enhanced speed for Gearshift.
I really hope we either get more information about this suit or better yet see it in action in like a movie or something.
But the gauntlets can likely shoot out blast of air like Air Force. And considering All Might had it, I'm certain he has something to imitate Blackwhip as well. He still has his Iron Soles as well, but maybe there could be some mechanism that builds up tension from certain movements and can release it all at once kind of like Fa Jin?
There could be some kind of sensor or scanner that could keep track of people, likely as some way of imitating Danger Sense? Maybe it's built into his mask?
A Smokescreen generator would be easy. It looks like he's wearing a jetpack as well for Float, and maybe he has some extra thrusters for enhanced speed for Gearshift.
I really hope we either get more information about this suit or better yet see it in action in like a movie or something.
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That video someone posted awhile back made the claim the suit is basically All Might's with upgrades, including potential replications of his own Quirks as well as All For One's.
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It could have all of All Might's stuff as well, though I highly doubt they gave Izuku of all people a way to self destruct.
Should be obvious, but there's a real possibility he'll use it if he has to and no one wants that. Considering the lower crime time as well, I doubt it's needed.
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