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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

New Render for Current Costume Deku
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Deku is definitelt referring to a howitzer gun and not Bakugo’s howitzer technique, as it’s “howitzer impact” not “howitzer shot”.

Although i’ve seen some people say the original kanji, Deku says something about “high angle fire” and nothing about Howitzers. Regardless these shots are pretty powerful since one of them completely broke Deku’s mid gauntlet which can handle 45-50% of his power, and a 45% kick caused enough air pressure to blast out all the windows down a street with just air pressure.

Deku catching one is pretty impressive too since Danger Sense isn’t really real precognition; it just tells him where attacks are coming from, he still had to react to the bullet in midair to catch it, and his arm was pretty far away to where he caught it, and the force still sent him a dozen metres away.
 
Bakugo’s technique is “Howitzer Impact“ not “Howitzer Shot” so of course he’s referring to an actual gun. But apparently the original kanji doesn’t mention “howitzer” anywhere, it just says something like, “it’s nothing like high-angle fire!”
 
I mean, I feel Deku should scale at least somewhat to these bullets even if he’s relying on Danger Sense to tell him where they’re coming from. He’s reacting to them AFTER they’ve already been shot at him, so his body still needs to be able to move and block them.

Also, 3rd users quirk lets go! Seems to be a type of amp to his body, which I called with a “burst” quirk. Now we’re moving boys, he can amp without just using higher percentages.
 
And Deku’s “if it wasn’t for the fourth’s quirk I’d be dead!” statement is quite vague. Considering it’s dark, stormy, low visibility and the bullets are coming around corners he’s about to turn, the statement isn’t evidence that he’s not predicting them and only surviving due to prediction; Danger Sense only gives a warning of where attacks are coming from, we never see it give him a straight precognition vision of what the attack is and where it’s coming from. It’s like a minimap in a video game.
 
I don’t think the third’s quirk is an amp or boost, but maybe a thrust ability where he can fly real fast, like Hood’s jet thrusters.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
I don’t think the third’s quirk is an amp or boost, but maybe a thrust ability where he can fly real fast, like Hood’s jet thrusters.
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That'd be pretty cool too so his flight doesn't depend on kicking the air, but I am still hoping it has several applications. With a name with so much potential as "hakkei" (which is raw/explosive power), being able to use it for his actual attacks would be very useful.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
I don’t think the third’s quirk is an amp or boost, but maybe a thrust ability where he can fly real fast, like Hood’s jet thrusters.
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It seems to be based on a martial art. Hakkei is apparently the ability for muscles to produce power even when the person is still with minimal movements.

Then the power can be released when one hits the opponent and basically go right through to their internal organs without damaging their exterior.

So it's like a combo of Burst Power and Internal destruction punch
 
It's also called Fa Jin in Chinese Martial arts and Hekkei in Aikido.

Here is basically a breakdown:
Breakdown:
Fa jin, fajin or fa chin (fājìn, 發勁), sometimes misspelled as fajing, is a term used in some Chinese martial arts, particularly the neijia (internal) martial arts, such as xingyiquan, t'ai chi ch'uan (taijiquan), baguazhang, bak mei, and bajiquan.

It means to issue or discharge power explosively or refining the explosive power, and is not specific to any particular striking method. With this definition in mind, a boxer is also capable of fa jin.[1] However, in the context of internal martial arts, the term usually refers to a set of methods to generate and focus force, resulting in physical feats with far less visual physical expression such as the one-inch punch.

Jìn (勁), or "power", is often confused by Westerners with the related concept of jīng (精), which literally means "essence." Jin describes the ability to generate force. Jin and qi are inherently combined concepts in internal martial arts. To generate the fa jin, according to the traditional explanation, it is necessary to transfer qi from dantian towards the limb or body part (e.g. shoulder, head, hip) that will perform the technique with explosive force (bàofālì 爆發力). If a person is off balance and stiff, they have no jin, as qi cannot penetrate the muscle to produce force.

In terms of biomechanics, fa jin is a matter of utilizing body alignment and coordination to form an extremely efficient kinematic chain. The body begins in a relaxed physical state, which is then quickly accelerated in a coordinated whole-body movement.[2][3]
 
More images are out, and he seems to actually flash back to talking with Endeavor when he’s about to use the quirk. Specifically, it’s the talk about “maximizing his output subconsciously” as well as the “learning in the real world” thing. So the thirds quirk has to be something related to increasing his capabilities, and he’s arguing that using it here is best because learning on the streets is the best place. Very very cool.

Also the 3rd is kinda vibing while En is comically berating Deku, even pushing his head. It’s very funny lol I like their dynamic.
 
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t's possible we already saw Deku use the Third's Quirk against Muscular to finish him off. It looks like what the name implies, a short explosive release of energy. The best comparison I can draw would be the One Inch Punch? I knew the remaining Quirks would be strong, given how the second was the leader of an entire resistance movement, with the Third as his right hand man.
 
Also All Might's aura and intimidation is on another level just like Stain, AFO and Shigaraki.

I'm guessing that aura is separate from quirks in his case due to him being quirkless, and more to do with conviction/experience/willpower.
 
RidleyX said:
Think 45% Deku' is overdue for at least a bump to high hypersonic+ at this point tbh
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He isn't at 45% in this fight yet. When he went 45% in the war arc, his eyes had more lightning that looked almost like electric tears at the side of his face like 100%. Right now
his eyes are pretty clear in the next chapter. Barely any lightning at all.

But yeah, 45% is clearly > Gran Torino and while Shigaraki was still faster than 45%, it was by a small margin.
 
Deku can use only 30% constantly. 45% is when he ramps up during larger attacks. The same dynamic back when he was at a constant 8% and a boost to 20% for his Air Force shots.
 
Yeah, 45% has lightning coming from his eyes like during the war arc while 30% doesn't.

Also 45% > Gran Torino in movement speed unlike 30%.
 
RidleyX said:
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Anyone want to calc this?
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Since it didn’t happen like that in the manga unfortunately it wouldn’t change any ratings or be a supporting feat
Same reason I didn’t try calcing the Endeavor shockwave
But I wouldn’t mind it being calced anyway even if perspective would make pixel scaling less accurate
 
Seems like a cool guy, wonder what his role will be.

Also, Lady Nagant moving through the air like a RWBY character by propelling herself with her gun, then using the shots she lets off by doing that as attacks, is pretty fun to see. And the 3rds quirk is definitely some form of amp given how there seems to be a kind of energy wrapping around Deku’s legs and pushing the smoke he’s in away from him, kinda like a DBZ character charging up.
 
Whatever percentage Deku is in right now, it isn't faster than Nagant's bullets. He should be slower, as he needs Danger Sense, though he has enough speed to react somehow.
Seems like he can use the other user's quirks, only because the Vestiges themselves are now allowing him to do so. 3rd has said that Deku has only used it the first time and of course hasn't mastered it at all.
With that, I really hope this decision by Deku ends up with consequences. Perhaps his gamble should allow him to buy more time, but I'll be disappointed if he beats Nagant just by using a power he used for the first time. Having Jeanist and Endeavor in the fray is something I'd like to see.

It seems like Nagant is not really clued in on Deku's capabilities, as she had no idea Deku had multiple quirks. If she did, I think she would've defeated Deku through preparation and prior knowledge. Either AFO had a brain fart and didn't tell her or he didn't expect Nagant to capture Deku which is kinda counterproductive as well. I suppose that United States of Smash did rock his brain.
 
An impressive speed feat in the new Vigilante spoilers. Damn I enjoy this series so much more than the main one
 
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Six gets some solid bullet dodging feats perceiving bullets in slow motion and parrying Koichi's air bullets though he does get overwhelmed in the end. Probably Overclock's time limit.

It also seems as his Regen is more limited since some of his previous facial injuries haven't healed yet.

Also unlike actual Nomus, he isn't bulletproof, but I guess we already knew this from the Knuckleduster fight.
 
Gotta say I'm glad Tsukauchi brought his brain this time and didn't leave it somewhere in the Makoto household.

Six looks ******* sick, he almost resembles All For One.
 
I’m only very early into Vigilantes so I can’t say anything about that.

But about Deku:
I am certain he does not ‘need’ danger sense to react to these bullets, it’s just that he has no idea where they are coming from. Low visibility, raining, can’t see through buildings, only a vague idea where the shooter is, can’t hear the gunshots, etc etc. Danger Sense is only helping him tell which direction the bullets are coming from, but facts are, HE IS reacting to and blocking the bullets with his bare hands and feet so he is at least almost as fast as them and isn’t getting outsped. There’s also the debate on what Deku actually sees when he uses Danger Sense; does it only help him sense where attacks are coming from, helping him predict their movement, or is it actual precognition where he sees exactly where the attack is coming from and where it is going?
 
AtomicSekiro said:
I’m only very early into Vigilantes so I can’t say anything about that.

But about Deku:
I am certain he does not ‘need’ danger sense to react to these bullets, it’s just that he has no idea where they are coming from. Low visibility, raining, can’t see through buildings, only a vague idea where the shooter is, can’t hear the gunshots, etc etc. Danger Sense is only helping him tell which direction the bullets are coming from, but facts are, HE IS reacting to and blocking the bullets with his bare hands and feet so he is at least almost as fast as them and isn’t getting outsped. There’s also the debate on what Deku actually sees when he uses Danger Sense; does it only help him sense where attacks are coming from, helping him predict their movement, or is it actual precognition where he sees exactly where the attack is coming from and where it is going?
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I don't think it even tells him the direction of attack. At least not at this point otherwise
Nagant wouldn't have been able to tag him by firing 2 bullets in opposite directions. It basically means danger sense only registered both bullets as a single threat and didn't even tell the direction the threat was coming from.
Now maybe the quirk may be powered up in the future but currently it's a bit limited.

As for speed, it is important to note that even now, Deku hasn't gone 45% a single time otherwise his lightning especially around his eyes would change. He is still at 30%.
 
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