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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Spoilers are out. No fighting but a confirmation about the first movie.

Also current base Deku should be way above all previous versions of his base for those that were debating on his base.

Anyway, I'm on mobile and the spoiler function for this site somehow stopped working when I'm on Google Chrome mobile so I'll leave it at that.
 
It's just like all the other confirmations. Like Endeavor's statement that he worked with a certain American girl.

I'm not even talking about Melissa herself, just the gauntlet itself cause I remember a lot of people asking why Deku didn't get another one after the first film as a sort of plothole to detract from the fact that the movies are canon.
 
Horikoshi himself says he found Wolfram especially bland and a lesson on what not to do when creating Nine and Chimera as villains for Heroes Rising in the Volume R interview.

So my guess is that he dislikes him, lol.
 
Just read the spoilers. A "Compression Gauntlet" from America was mentioned, a clear reference to Melissa, and Two Heroes. We can assume he used 100% to finish off Muscular. Most of the chapter is a flashback, with All Might explaining OFA to Inko. The Doctor says Deku's body has become much stronger and more enduring.
 
And that is what we call "evidence the movies are canon" my friends.

Other than that, the fact that it's Deku and All Might running around doing this is awesome, though Deku doesn't even seem phased by being a hero with his idol, showing how deeply not being as UA is affecting him, as well as his personal growth as a character to stop idolizing All Might. Even how he just leaves All Might the second Danger Sense goes off, intentionally looking into crimes by himself with no direction is showing just how independent he's becoming as a hero and in his own strength. The relationship between him and All Might has developed so far, it's insane.

Deku and the Top 3 in it together is a fire team and poor Inko can't even do anything at this point to help him.

So, about that "9-B" rating for War Arc Deku. Confirmed right here that, due to upgrading his base body to handle higher percentages, he can circumvent the damage he takes from 100%, to the point that losing his arms, while still a risk, is something that can be worked around. Deku really do be built different after all his training.

Excited to see where this goes since they're gunning for Shigaraki, AFO and the League. I feel there's a while to get there, and a ton of conflicts to be had for Deku while he's operating as, essentially, a real Pro Hero in the worst time to be a Pro Hero.
 
Just read the spoilers. A "Compression Gauntlet" from America was mentioned, a clear reference to Melissa, and Two Heroes. We can assume he used 100% to finish off Muscular. Most of the chapter is a flashback, with All Might explaining OFA to Inko. The Doctor says Deku's body has become much stronger and more enduring.
He didn't use 100%. The gauntlets aren't durable enough for it. It's just used to reinforce his arms to put less stress on them while he recovers.


I'm also having doubts that these gauntlets have any relation to Melissa. Yeah, they look similar to the full gauntlets, but there's no mention of her, only that AM ordered them from the USA and it has been mentioned in the MVA arc that the USA specialise in compression technology.
 
He didn't use 100%. The gauntlets aren't durable enough for it. It's just used to reinforce his arms to put less stress on them while he recovers.


I'm also having doubts that these gauntlets have any relation to Melissa. Yeah, they look similar to the full gauntlets, but there's no mention of her, only that AM ordered them from the USA and it has been mentioned in the MVA arc that the USA specialise in compression technology.
Who else would All Might trust to make gear that can possibly sustain his punches? If this tech was just readily available, do you think he would wait until now to get it? Heck, how does that even discredit Melissa’s existence? Doesn’t that if anything add credence to it, since now we know why she had a Full Gauntlet in the first place? Because America does compression gear?

Lets not even get into how the way it operates and coils around his arms is the exact same as Melissa’s design. Just because they specialize in a certain technology doesn’t mean the design, operation and function of every compression tech in America is the same.

Those gauntlets are from Melissa unless another unnamed American character that All Might would personally order from also happens to have not only the exact same design properties as Melissa, but specializes in the same field of compression and came up with a similar name while intentionally giving an inferior product.
 
Who else would All Might trust to make gear that can possibly sustain his punches? If this tech was just readily available, do you think he would wait until now to get it? Heck, how does that even discredit Melissa’s existence? Doesn’t that if anything add credence to it, since now we know why she had a Full Gauntlet in the first place? Because America does compression gear?

Lets not even get into how the way it operates and coils around his arms is the exact same as Melissa’s design. Just because they specialize in a certain technology doesn’t mean the design, operation and function of every compression tech in America is the same.

Those gauntlets are from Melissa unless another unnamed American character that All Might would personally order from also happens to have not only the exact same design properties as Melissa, but specializes in the same field of compression and came up with a similar name while intentionally giving an inferior product.
I never said it discredits Melissa's existence, nor did I deny her existence to begin with. I just said I don't think it was her because of the way the scene is worded. If it was Melissa, cool.
 
Yeah, I'm wondering who this arc's antagonistic will be. I think Shiggy and AFO are still recovering.

All I'm left wondering is who would be a threat enough for the Top 3 heroes + Deku.

Maybe a new supervillain team or a dude with some busted quirk.
 
Well AFO (the person) seems hell bent on having Shiggy getting his body completed, but in order to do that they most likely need Garaki, who hasn't been seen in forever.
 
It could be one of the prisoners freed from Tartarus? Or it could even be no specific antagonist and instead a more metaphorical antagonist in the next arc.
 
Looking at the Korean raws, didn't expect bootleg Aizawa to make an appearance, though it makes sense since he's Shindo's schoolmate.
Deku's doctor is Mario.
I'm not too certain of Deku's situation right now. He had a dramatic exit with leaving letters to his friends yet he's actually just with Endeavor this whole time. Though he seems to be keeping a low profile regarding his identity, limiting interactions with people. But I don't think that'll last long with his crimefighting anyways, especially if he hangs with the Top 3 heroes of all people.
 
Pretty good chapter this week, Deku is zooming around and saving people just like All Might used too, also All Might says that Deku needs to hold back and restrain himself until the final showdown, so that means Deku likely won't be using 100% for a while and is once again signifying that the final battle with AFO and Shigaraki may be coming, I still don't know if this is the end of the series or if we'll get another arc or sequel manga, all I know is that I am on the edge of my seat, also Gran Torino saying that Deku shouldn't hold back on killing Shigaraki and that death is a form of salvation as well is interesting to hear, I wonder if Deku will take that to heart
 
I have made a render for Deku's Current Costume
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Looks good. Could you maybe try finding another image of him to render though, because all of his gear in that image is just imaginary
 
Looks good. Could you maybe try finding another image of him to render though, because all of his gear in that image is just imaginary
There isn't a better image sadly, at least not from what I've seen so far of the costume, I am sure we will get a better image tho for the costume eventually
 
That render doesn't work as the "tools" he has aren't there and are just visual representations of his quirks
 
While we aren't done, since we need the villain thread and their scaling. It seems like the current scaling for the lower tiers might be more complicated then I originally thought to be. I'd actually rather deal with the Top Tiers before doing anything else, since we all see to agree with the basic changes.

I don't mind if someone makes a thread about the Top Tiers soon.

In other news, I have something to bring up. Since the heat revisions, Chimera shouldn't scale to 8-A fire anymore. So I put three different ratings he can possibly have on my sandbox, which one do you guys agree with more? 1, 2, or 3? (Edit: Rather get this done sooner, as it's very simple)
 
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Both of them are different in what they do.

Danger Sense detects any danger that is "near" the user, while Search allows someone to track another person after seeing them once and even learns their weaknesses. If it comes down to tracking, than Search is superior since it's not possible to hide from someone who has Search. (Unless you can teleport or something)

Danger Sense would usually be better for battle, as it not only warns you of danger, but the general direction of where it's coming from. So it's not possible to ambush or launch a surprise attack against the user. In a fight Danger Sense should usually be better, but outside of a fight Search would be better for tracking down certain people.

In the end, the Quirks aren't similar enough to say one is better than the other.
 
While we aren't done, since we need the villain thread and their scaling. It seems like the current scaling for the lower tiers might be more complicated then I originally thought to be. I'd actually rather deal with the Top Tiers before doing anything else, since we all see to agree with the basic changes.

I don't mind if someone makes a thread about the Top Tiers soon.

In other news, I have something to bring up. Since the heat revisions, Chimera shouldn't scale to 8-A fire anymore. So I put three different ratings he can possibly have on my sandbox, which one do you guys agree with more? 1, 2, or 3? (Edit: Rather get this done sooner, as it's very simple)
Go with the second one
And yeah top tier thread is much more simple since most already agree on what their profiles should look like
 
The Compression tech is interesting in theory. I wonder what Deku's max is with it unlike with the Full Gauntlet that could go 100% 3 times.

I'm still wondering who this team will face cause it's like literally the 4 strangest guys in the story + All Might teaming up.
 
I think the tech is letting him use 45% in his arms. Remember, when he punched Bakugo, he used 5% on his arms instead of 8%, so his arms might have always been at a lower percentage than the rest of his body to keep them safe on top of the support gloves.

They might even let him use up to like 60%, so we'll see.

Also, give this team a couple Near High Ends to fight, maybe some of those PLF generals or even Overhaul. That'll give them some challenge.

We could also go see what the villains or class 2-A are up to. Very interested to see where we're heading.
 
I think I've said this before, but I always had this theory that Deku's base durability is equal to the maximum amount of OFA that he can use without straining or hurting his body.
This probably isn't true or at least isn't that simple since OFA has to increase his durability to some extent, but still.
 
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