Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

[Rendynoc0unter]

Mushoku Tensei — Discussion
Discuss anything Mushoku Tensei related, such as Discussing the Storyline, and Discussing CRT.​

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

I don't know if this discussion thread has been created or not, but if it has been created. This discussion thread can be deleted

 

[Rozi]

 

[Rozi]

Rendy sensei

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

So what happens after he dies of old age does he get reincarnated agian

 

[DonkeySlayer06]

So what happens after he dies of old age does he get reincarnated agian

I will answer early
I think he doesnt get reincarnated again. Hitokami said "You are very lucky to be reincarnated but not again so"

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

We need to update the profiles and make new ones soon

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Alright its been too long, who here can help with making the profiles for atleast some of the god tiers, Rudeus and Eris

 

[Sparx_gaming]

Alright its been too long, who here can help with making the profiles for atleast some of the god tiers, Rudeus and Eris

Doesn't rudeus already have a profile of light novel

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Doesn't rudeus already have a profile of light novel

Outdated + lacks a lot of stuff

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

I didn't think this verse would make it to this wikki.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Alright its been too long, who here can help with making the profiles for atleast some of the god tiers, Rudeus and Eris

I can deal with it. All you need to do is pass me a few feats that I can use and I will. I was planning to do a profile for Orsted since he's my favorite character in the series and I need feats. We need to bring the verse to life even as scaling the LN is rather difficult in tiers below 5

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

This was on my to do list.

Read up to like volume 18 of the WN, then stopped.

Started the series with the manga, then hopped on to the LN like a year ago, and wasn't really trying to power scale it, so pretty much have to do a re-read, 20+ volumes is no joke though.

 

[Digital_Franz]

This was on my to do list.

Read up to like volume 18 of the WN, then stopped.

Started the series with the manga, then hopped on to the LN like a year ago, and wasn't really trying to power scale it, so pretty much have to do a re-read, 20+ volumes is no joke though.

I saw it. You have a lot of projects on your to do list and you seem very busy recently

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Indeed, so if you guys are going to fix the verse, go ahead, not sure when I will get round to Mushoku. Doing Re:Zero, then wanted to read A Wild Last Boss LN.

Though being honest, if the verse is being made and is in good condition, won't really have any motivation to go through the re-read, already have a bunch of other verses to work on, and this would be a major commitment.

That said pretty sad a series as popular as this doesn't have good profiles, with multiple seasons of the anime out.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Really. I will try to work on it in parallel with the other verses that I deal with.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I could do with scans too yeah
(for Rudeus to be specific)

 

[Digital_Franz]

I could do with scans too yeah
(for Rudeus to be specific)

OK.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Here are the profiles I'm currently working on for verse:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Digital_Franz/Orsted(Light_Novel)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Digital_Franz/Rudeus_Greyrat(Light_Novel)

 

[Digital_Franz]

@Celestial_Pegasus can we discuss a few small topics regarding the AP of god-tiers?

 

[Digital_Franz]

@Celestial_Pegasus is indeed very busy but no one else has any reaction after viewing the profiles?

 

[Digital_Franz]

I'm going to expose my problem here regarding the god tier.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Here is the content of volume 15 and what I think.

Spoiler: About Nanahoshi

As for talking to Nanahoshi… I was tempted to go see her right away, but how was I supposed to explain the situation? The whole thing was insane. Then again, Nanahoshi had been summoned here from a parallel world. My story might sound nuts, but she probably wouldn’t just laugh it off.

At this level I think it is obvious that world refers to a universe.

Spoiler: About the world in which Mushoku Tensei takes place

This world is divided into six—the world of dragons, the world of men, the world of demons, the world of beasts, the ocean world, and the sky world.
These six worlds are arrayed like the faces of a great cube. The inside of this cube is a place known as the barren world. Passing through it is the only way to travel from one face of the cube to another; but this is only possible by means of a very specific method.
“The Man-God stands at the center of the barren world.”

The universe is divided into six so each part is at least Multi-Solar System/Multi-Galaxy.
Multi-Solar System because from what is shown in the anime the human world has a starry sky.

Spoiler: Rudeus' thoughts

Huh. So this world was sort of like a hollow cube, with the Man-God at its center. That was a little disturbing. It did explain why teleportation always felt more like getting sucked under the ground—you were being pulled into the barren world, and travelling through it to your destination.
Of course, that didn’t mean you could just dig down through the ground to reach the Man-God. The connection between the worlds probably wasn’t that literal.

The human world is thus one dimension.

Spoiler: About the barren world

According to my future self, this was the barren world—a sort of four-dimensional space, sitting at the center of a cube composed of six other worlds.
When you used Teleportation magic, you travelled through this plane of reality.
But based on the old man’s research, there was no easy way to travel into it.

It is a dimension separated from the others.

Spoiler: A spin-off explaining how this world was created

There is now a spin-off written by the author which is considered a spin-off of the webnovel (I think the WN and LN should not be separated on the wiki) where it is explained how the six-faced world is born.
It is said that the worlds' creator wanted to create one last world before dying but the world he created was unstable. So he created another one but it was still unstable. So he found himself creating six worlds. To stabilize these worlds, he assembled them into one world which gave birth to the current world.
So I think the six worlds are currently universes that can place god tiers at 3-A or Low 2-C.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Mushoku tensei is the best web novel ever written and is a sad fact that Vs battle lacked pages (and is lacking GOOD PAGES) of this wonderfull verse, hated by monkeys that can't tolerate the protagonist because their minds are so unevolved that everything is pedophilia for them

 

[Digital_Franz]

Mushoku tensei is the best web novel ever written and is a sad fact that Vs battle lacked pages (and is lacking GOOD PAGES) of this wonderfull verse, hated by monkeys that can't tolerate the protagonist because their minds are unevolved that everything is pedophilia for them

Really sad.
Currently I'm working on it but I'm worried about getting yelled at by fans when I put a CRT with Rudeus at possibly 4-A or 3-A.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Oh so discussion thread for this series exist

Would be following it

 

[Digital_Franz]

Would be following it

Welcome mate.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Really sad.
Currently I'm working on it but I'm worried about getting yelled at by fans when I put a CRT with Rudeus at possibly 4-A or 3-A.

I agree that the actual God tiers (aka FP Orsted, original dragon god etc) are 3A/Low-2C but the 7 gods are tier high 6A at best because of a lack of feat and the fact that we know that current Orsted is massively depowered

 

[Digital_Franz]

I agree that the actual God tiers (aka FP Orsted, original dragon god etc) are 3A/Low-2C but the 7 gods are tier high 6A at best because of a lack of feat and the fact that we know that current Orsted is massively depowered

It is said that currently Orsted can destroy the world and only Rudeus and Eris have managed to hurt him.

 

[Digital_Franz]

I agree that the actual God tiers (aka FP Orsted, original dragon god etc) are 3A/Low-2C but the 7 gods are tier high 6A at best because of a lack of feat and the fact that we know that current Orsted is massively depowered

Currently Orsted can probably kill Hitogami. I think that only Rudeus can possibly be put on Orsted's level.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Ah isn't it confirmed that orested fears battleing rudeus again cause he could seriously affect his mana pool which orested can't recover from in this loop and can't defeat hitogami with it

 

[Digital_Franz]

Ah isn't it confirmed that orested fears battleing rudeus again cause he could seriously affect his mana pool which orested can't recover from in this loop and can't defeat hitogami with it

Not that he fears fighting Rudeus. Instead, he said that Rudeus is the only opponent he has to fight seriously. And currently the recharge of his mana pool is slowed down because of the art created by his father which allows him to be above the laws of the world and which will allow him to beat Hitogami.

 

[Digital_Franz]

I agree that the actual God tiers (aka FP Orsted, original dragon god etc) are 3A/Low-2C but the 7 gods are tier high 6A at best because of a lack of feat and the fact that we know that current Orsted is massively depowered

You're right though. Current God tiers should be between High 6-A and 5-B.

 

[Digital_Franz]

I wonder if this can be used for subsonic speed.

 

[Narutouchiha95]

I wonder if this can be used for subsonic speed.

Hello, I would like to help in the search for feats for this universe, but I really don't know how the site works and I am from Spain, so I have the novels translated in Spanish, not in English. Could I put the feat quotes here specifying the volume and cap? By the way, when I try to access discussions about mushoku tensei from the mushoku page I get an error.

 

[Zabazab]

The Actual Gods (plus full-power Orsted) are probably like Tier 2 or 3, given the content of Old Dragon's Tale.

The upper-class of the Seven World Powers are probably around High 6-A scaling to Orsted or Rudeus. Orsted with the God Sword scales to the Batte God Armour which survived the explosion that made the Ringus Sea, plus authors statements say Orsted can wipe away continents with his blows.

The speed cap of the verse is SoL, and anyone above King-rank swordsmen are relativistic(+). The lower tiers are like subsonic to supersonic(?).

I have basically no idea what lower tiers would scale to in terms of AP, there's probably a bunch of random feats in tier 8 or 9.

These are just idle thoughts though, I haven't read the books in a bit.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Hello, I would like to help in the search for feats for this universe, but I really don't know how the site works and I am from Spain, so I have the novels translated in Spanish, not in English. Could I put the feat quotes here specifying the volume and cap?

Of course. Any help is welcome.

By the way, when I try to access discussions about mushoku tensei from the mushoku page I get an error.

I am currently working on the verse page in my Sandbox. I have already corrected this error.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Orsted with the God Sword scales to the Batte God Armour which survived the explosion that made the Ringus Sea, plus authors statements say Orsted can wipe away continents with his blows.

Base Orsted is at this level. He is superior to Dragonoid Demon God Laplace who also survived this explosion and he can take hits from Rudeus who is of this level. With the blade it's higher and it seems to have Durability Negation based on Paul's sword which seems to have this ability. Additionally the armor and Orsted were said to have the power to destroy the planet so likely Planet level.

The speed cap of the verse is SoL, and anyone above King-rank swordsmen are relativistic(+). The lower tiers are like subsonic to supersonic(?).

This could go to FTL thanks to Orsted and Eris' fight.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Ok this would be reagarding cosmology

1.on what our tier 2 rating would be based of

2.if it is based on some separate dimension /space time does it have statements of being universal in size

3.Our overall cosmology would be 2c I mean that's a no brainer

 

[Digital_Franz]

Ok this would be reagarding cosmology

1.on what our tier 2 rating would be based of

The creator of worlds who created worlds. The human world contains a starry sky so should be a universe given that on this site when the world does not refer to population or the planet it refers to the universe. Moreover, since we talked about parallel worlds, this could well come back to parallel universes.

2.if it is based on some separate dimension /space time does it have statements of being universal in size

Not really. Unless we get the raws (which I haven't managed to do) to confirm that it can also be a universe then no.I'm just basing this on the fact that the human world already has a starry sky.

3.Our overall cosmology would be 2c I mean that's a no brainer

2-A. It is said in Old Dragon Tale that the Creator God created many worlds and in the LN Rudeus speaks of an infinity of parallel worlds.