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Ah that Could be weather manipulationI mean this storm
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Ah that Could be weather manipulationI mean this storm
But the measurements and data are not taken based on what is seen of Rudeus? I don't know exactly how the calculation is done.The calculation is the calculation of a supercell so Roxy should scale to that. Rudeus just should be higher than her.
Not anything else, but feats of clearing storms or making storms are one of the few that there is in Mushoku, a few are alreadyDependent on scale.
I seem to remember that it said that this ice treant was S rank, but reading it again I couldn't find it. It simply mentions that it is very big, that it has a defense on the front made of ice (where it stops the stone cannon) and that its attack pattern is very simple.Interesting
With this whe can get a minimum for the speed for the adventurers? i believe that arrows are 100 m/s.- Winter lizard capable of dodging arrows
Even if weather manipulation involves energy, unfortunately I don't know how to calculate storms.Ah that Could be weather manipulation
could beAh that Could be weather manipulation
Hmm fair pointcould be
looks like he just blasted it away with wind though
I don't believe there's anything that puts Rudeus' AP on par with Laplace's, is there? They just have similar quantities of mana.Change the scale of Rudeus like i speak to Digital_Franz now the premise to scale him is Rudeus Magic = Laplace
“I don’t recommend trying. If you tried to use your mana the way he did, you’d blow your own body apart in an instant. It’s bizarre for a human to have that much mana inside them in the first place, you know!”
Channeling too much mana at once could apparently destroy a magician from the inside out. On an intuitive level, that did make sense to me. Infusing yourself with magic felt a little bit like stretching your arm out as far as it could possibly go. If you kept pushing things beyond that limit, you’d probably end up with the equivalent of a broken bone or two.
Laplace, on the other hand, had possessed not only a giant supply of mana, but also the sturdy body and technical skill necessary to use it fully. I was a fragile, clumsy little thing by comparison. No matter how hard I trained, I was never going to reach his level.
Please read the conversation I had with him previously. I really don't care which premise is taken since both have inconsistencies, but what we cannot do is use one way of scaling it or another depending on what suits us in each momment.I don't believe there's anything that puts Rudeus' AP on par with Laplace's, is there? They just have similar quantities of mana.
link?Please read the conversation I had with him previously.
link?
I have no idea why one would think Rudeus = Laplace.Obviously Rudeus cannot use the same spells as Laplace but that does not mean that he is inferior in power to Laplace.
“I don’t recommend trying. If you tried to use your mana the way he did, you’d blow your own body apart in an instant. It’s bizarre for a human to have that much mana inside them in the first place, you know!”
Channeling too much mana at once could apparently destroy a magician from the inside out. On an intuitive level, that did make sense to me. Infusing yourself with magic felt a little bit like stretching your arm out as far as it could possibly go. If you kept pushing things beyond that limit, you’d probably end up with the equivalent of a broken bone or two.
Laplace, on the other hand, had possessed not only a giant supply of mana, but also the sturdy body and technical skill necessary to use it fully. I was a fragile, clumsy little thing by comparison. No matter how hard I trained, I was never going to reach his level.
Currently gathering quotes regarding Orsted since I know his powers will be fairly complex, such as his Acausality.Snip
Is imperial but ok xd I understand why Rudeus = Laplace, there are a lot of comparations and Orsted make one directly with one attack. But as i said, there are also many antifeats and contradictions.I have no idea why one would think Rudeus = Laplace.
It's not a matter of spells either, a silent-casting Mage can pump any spell to any level they're capable of, such as Rudeus' Stone Cannon, which is an Intermidiate spell, is King-tier.
They are only comparable in amount of mana, not magical power. It's unlikely that Orsted would have merely had a slightly grazed palm if Rudeus had output on par with Laplace, who is a difficult opponent for Orsted unless he uses mana.Is imperial but ok xd I understand why Rudeus = Laplace, there are a lot of comparations and Orsted make one directly with one attack.
I am ngl i kinda dont know what the point of setting up a powerscaling chain even is, its not like their abilities scale to each other in anywayCouldn't more people and moderators participate to correctly establish this scale?
Now the feats of this volume from the anime and manga:
.- Battle against the bears in the anime:
The yield may be greater than in the anime.The volumen 7 has is adaptation in manga in a spin off, the regular manga cut it:
.- Exodus Flame in the manga (Chapter 4):
Consistency with Orsted's problem.I don't believe there's anything that puts Rudeus' AP on par with Laplace's, is there? They just have similar quantities of mana.
He should have type 4. Those with powerful destiny have Limited Acausality and Rudeus and Nanahoshi have Limited Acausality Negation.Currently gathering quotes regarding Orsted since I know his powers will be fairly complex, such as his Acausality.
This should be the case otherwise very few characters will have levels due to lack of feats.I am ngl i kinda dont know what the point of setting up a powerscaling chain even is, its not like their abilities scale to each other in anyway
Yeah. So we will have to make comparisons for others who do not use magic.At best we can go through multiple haxes and compare their potency but aside from Laplace, Rudeus and Roxy there really isnt any relevant character who has anything going for them in terms of magic (Fitts is fine in terms of it but nothing too crazy)
I'm not up for the idea. I would prefer to finish the profiles and upload them. Just getting the calculations to be evaluated is quite a problem. CRTs again to have views is another story. I would prefer to do a CRT for cosmology which will only affect God tier.Anyways, we should first finish the profiles and have a CRT for them to be uploaded so we can then make CRTs updating it with more abilities as time goes on
Maybe.so lets focus on that
Speed should be a whole separate CRT since it seems to be controversial over here, however Orsted can be SoL without any counter arguements
Yes.and Rudeus is anywhere from superhuman, supersonic to MH+ with lightning, and possibly relativistic with his armor and shit
Fair.Peak AP is inarguably atleast high 6A for the god tiers (anything higher is again gonna need a separate CRT)
Make the profile based on everything that isnt debatable so we can churn it out faster
It would have been nice if we could have an approximation of how far he cleared the blizard.Even if weather manipulation involves energy, unfortunately I don't know how to calculate storms.
The measurement problem. Can an approximation be made?could be
looks like he just blasted it away with wind though
I was thinking of giving basic subsonic combat and reaction speed to physically trained people based on Sauros' slap. For the rest I don't think the verse has many speed feats.Is someone working on a speed calc cause rudeus having only superhuman speed is horrendous
Well if you say so. The fact is that I especially wanted to know if Rudeus at this level is not baseline High 6-A.I have no idea why one would think Rudeus = Laplace.
It's not a matter of spells either, a silent-casting Mage can pump any spell to any level they're capable of, such as Rudeus' Stone Cannon, which is an Intermidiate spell, is King-tier.
I am ngl i kinda dont know what the point of setting up a powerscaling chain even is, its not like their abilities scale to each other in anyway
Shiraito calculated this feat I believe it's 7-C but it hasn't been evaluated yet.
Mainly it is to see how to focus Rudeus' power on the scale and thereby solve the problem with Orsted's durability. The fact of taking Rudeus = Laplace or not can cause inconsistencies in one sense or another. Characters like the North God scale above Rudeus because he is god level and Rudeus is only imperial or not? Things like this. Not to mention Roxy being king level and Rudeus only Saint in principle when he damages OrstedConsistency with Orsted's problem.
Rather than Acausality hax, it'd probably just be limited Fate Manip for individuals with strong fate. Orsted is the only one with Acausality Type 4 after all.He should have type 4. Those with powerful destiny have Limited Acausality and Rudeus and Nanahoshi have Limited Acausality Negation.
Yes we will consider them like that.Then there is the issue of feats like this if it is approved. It is an advanced 7C spell made by Rudeus. Do all the advanced ones receive scale or not for being Rudeus?
I say Limited Acausality because the system of cause and effect seems to protect them.Rather than Acausality hax, it'd probably just be limited Fate Manip for individuals with strong fate. Orsted is the only one with Acausality Type 4 after all.
Things like that.Orsted's Acausality would provide an unconventional resistance to: Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Cosmic Awareness, and Divination.