Multiple Selves thread.

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Well

I wouldn't count Zangetsu as Multiple Organisms.

There are two Zangetsu's.

One is the manifestation of Ichigo's Quincy abilities.

One is the manifestation of his Shinigami abilities and his Inner Hollow.

Ichigo's inner Hollow is the result of a separate Hollow creature that fused with Ichigo's inherited Shinigami abilities. It no longer exists really as a separate entity.

Since they're called "manifested spirits" then I think that Type 1 and Type 2 is what is most applicable.

Well since the Hollows are inseparable part of ichigo , I agree with Damage on type 1 and 2 only.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Thank you. Do you think the current explanation is enough or should it be expanded?

"Ichigo and Zangetsu are both seperate entities that behave completely different from one another"

Just a addition that both are inseparable, only act as souls and personalities. Dunno how to put that in words. Ask Damage too.

 

[SamanPatou]

Kamen Rider fusions do indeed have multiple people inside one body controlling that one body.

BoBoiBoy and Roy Han when fused only have one personality.

Yeah, Destroyman might have normal multiple personalities, but it's entirely exaggerated.

Shiva is to Oppy, what Hulk is to Banner.

Also, the Zorya Sisters are one being that is split into 3 people. Even in their idealised unified form, they have 3 faces, each with distinct personalities.

Thank you.

BoBoiBoy and Roy shouldn't count, neither does Destroyman, natural split personalities aren't special powers anymore, regardless of how exaggerated they are.

Could you write a quick explanation to put on profiles for Oppy, Zorya and the Kamen Riders? I think all three would be type 1, i.e. multiple minds. I know the Kamen Riders are a lot, so take you time and thanks again!

 

[SamanPatou]

Just a addition that both are inseparable, only act as souls and personalities. Dunno how to put that in words. Ask Damage too.

@Damage3245 Sorry to tag you again, I just need a last input on Ichigo's current explanation, if it needs to be expanded and how.

The current one is: "Ichigo and Zangetsu are both seperate entities that behave completely different from one another"

 

[Damage3245]

I can't think of any improvements. Maybe

"Ichigo and his Zangetsus are separate spiritual entities that cannot be split apart and have distinct personalities from each other." ?

 

[SamanPatou]

Thank you, I think it works.

 

[SamanPatou]

@Ryuga21 I saw that you're the only supporter of Sengoku Youko and I was wondering if you could help us replacing some links that are in Senya's profile.
Basically, everything that is linked to the Mangasomething website can't be included anymore, I'd appreciate if you could place replacement scans and out them on imgur, or alternatively, if you wish, you can just reference the chapters where those feats or whatever they are have been performed.

@Maruishimaryishi and @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless same as before, but for Gabriel from Gabriel Dropout.

@Maruishimaryishi and @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless Sorry to call you again, but I still need your help to fix Gabriel.

@Sir_Ovens I know you're an opponent of the verse, but Saechika Hachiouji has the same issue.

I also noticed that all the characters from Code:Breaker are full of links to illegal and blocked websites, and no supporters are still on the wiki. If no one is can work on the verse, I guess they will either be deleted or all links removed and the profiles left with just the explanations given.

 

[SamanPatou]

@Armorchompy Could you write a quick explanation on how the Multiple Selves of The Smith Syndacate work? I think it's legit, as I've read on the profile that those personalities have been absorbed into one person overtime, it just needs to be explained next to "Multiple Selves".

 

[Armorchompy]

Short story is each of those people's souls have been absorbed by Harman, who now "contains" all of them and can transform in them. I think that's all types?

Also didn't you say you were playing the game

 

[SamanPatou]

I think it's type 1 and 2 only, they affect the body but they aren't multiple organisms. Could you write a "formal explanation" to put on their profile?

I indeed said that, but I didn't say I was going to play it anytime soon.

 

[Armorchompy]

I'll do it later, however they are multiple organisms in the sense that if one dies the others are still fine (with the exception of the leader, if he dies everyone dies)

 

[Armorchompy]

Also bump it up the queue it's a masterpiece

 

[Maruishimaryishi]

@Ryuga21 I saw that you're the only supporter of Sengoku Youko and I was wondering if you could help us replacing some links that are in Senya's profile.
Basically, everything that is linked to the Mangasomething website can't be included anymore, I'd appreciate if you could place replacement scans and out them on imgur, or alternatively, if you wish, you can just reference the chapters where those feats or whatever they are have been performed.

@Maruishimaryishi and @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless same as before, but for Gabriel from Gabriel Dropout.

Donezo.

Also, I apologized about causing such trouble with manga scans. Though, it was literally my fault from the start that I linked the scans on that online manga site and got errored.

 

[Armorchompy]

I'll do it later, however they are multiple organisms in the sense that if one dies the others are still fine (with the exception of the leader, if he dies everyone dies)

I made the edit btw. Anyway, while we're here, do you think Destroyman qualifies? It's originally one dude who might or might not have had multiple personalities, but then he's split in half (and cyborgized to survive) and these two halves have complete opposite personalities. It's technically still one individual, but they're separate.

 

[SamanPatou]

Donezo.

Also, I apologized about causing such trouble with manga scans. Though, it was literally my fault from the start that I linked the scans on that online manga site and got errored.

No problem, and thank you for the help!

I made the edit btw. Anyway, while we're here, do you think Destroyman qualifies? It's originally one dude who might or might not have had multiple personalities, but then he's split in half (and cyborgized to survive) and these two halves have complete opposite personalities. It's technically still one individual, but they're separate.

In this case I think not, natural multiple personalities are allowed only if they heavily affect the character in some way, as giving powers, resistances or something else but very relevant.

 

[Cloozuma]

I made the edit btw. Anyway, while we're here, do you think Destroyman qualifies? It's originally one dude who might or might not have had multiple personalities, but then he's split in half (and cyborgized to survive) and these two halves have complete opposite personalities. It's technically still one individual, but they're separate.

Nope. He's not two in one.

 

[Cloozuma]

Oh btw, is there anyone who is a Xenoblade supporter? Pyra qualifies for this.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, Pyra does qualify via her Pyra, Mythra, and Pneuma personalities.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

She would qualify for all 3 types I believe.

 

[SamanPatou]

I finished changing/renaming all characters that used to have Multiple Personalities, either giving them multiple selves or removing it entirely from those who didn't qualify.

The only thing left is handling categories, and I think bots can handle the removal.

@Antvasima Can you confirm it? The Multiple Personalities Users and Split Personalities users just have to be removed from about 200 profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

Have you added a "Multiple Selves" category to the remaining pages that still qualify, or is that unnecessary or a too awkward wording?

 

[Antvasima]

Meaning: Is it entirely safe if I remove those categories in their entireties, or should I replace them with something else?

 

[SamanPatou]

I didn't, I was actually wondering if someone else or a bot could do it, also because such category doesn't exist yet and I think we still have to formally decide its name.

A category should be added though, it's still an ability page, after all.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, the problem is that the pages that did not qualify for the Multiple Selves ability, and had it removed, should also not have an associated category anymore.

 

[Antvasima]

We could use the following page afterwards to add the new category via my automated script of course, but then the list would have to be cleaned up to only include the exact page titles, and that would take quite a while.

Pages that link to "Multiple Selves" | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[SamanPatou]

It kinda needs to be done anyway, even overtime, am I right? Like, we can't leave it as the only power without a category.

I could take even his task, but it would take a considerable amount of time, just like it took me to conclude the updates.

 

[Antvasima]

If you want to speed it up, you could just copy-paste the above linked list into a text file, clean away the extra text after the page titles, and then post it here. After that, I can quickly add the new category to all of the listed pages with my automated MassCategorization script.

 

[SamanPatou]

You mean something like this?

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, exactly. Is that all of them?

 

[Antvasima]

Also, what should we call the new category?

 

[SamanPatou]

Yes, exactly. Is that all of them?

Yes, I just removed the Multiple Personalities redirect.

Also, what should we call the new category?

People proposed "Multiple Selves Users", which sounds a little off to me, but I can't think of anything better at the moment.

Like, "Multiple Characters" clearly doesn't work, and I'm not sure we can adapt the power into something like what "Incorporeal Characters" is for "Incorporeality" or "Telepaths" for "Telepathy" and so on.

Maybe there's something, I just can't think to it.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will use your suggestion as a placeholder category name then. It can easily be replaced later.

 

[Antvasima]

I handled all of it:

Multiple Selves Users

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[SamanPatou]

Thank you, we are technically done with this project.

However, I'd keep this thread open, as people might come in to reply to the list of characters that were put on a grey area for lacking explanations, or maybe discuss others DDM and someone else did for Pyra.

 

[SamanPatou]

This is a list of all characters from which I removed Multiple Personalities because they didn't have an explanation. Any users is welcome to check it out and give reasons or make a CRT to give the new ability back to their characters. I'm not going to put links to make my work shorter, they are on the wiki anyway. The list will be updated overtime,

Note that these are only the characters that got it removed because they lack an explanation, thus it doesn't contain those who don't have it anymore because it doesn't qualify as an actual power.

• Heather Mason
• Legion (Mass Effect)
• Millennian Io
• Nia Teppelin
• Raiden Mei
• Raven (Rage Hearts Path)
• Seele Vollerei
• Soldier (TF2)
• Kalista
• Varus
• Utsuro
• Tart
• Oriko Mikuni
• Riz
• Rumplestiltskin (OUAT)
• Rai Batenkaios
• Captain Underpants
• Green Goblin (Raimi)
• Kazumi Subaru
• Chloe O'Bell (Web Novel)
• Santa Claus (The Librarians)
• Ataru Moroboshi
• Gildedguy
• Ren Isuzu
• Iroha Tamaki
• Amane Sisters
• Sho Minazuki
• Johan (Sekien no Iganock)
• Merkava
• Zuckuss
• Elise (Azure Striker Gunvolt)
• Snake of Clearing Eyes
• Seiso Hazakura
• Berio Trope
• The Joker (DCAU)
• Springheel Jack (Strawberry Spring)
• Two-Face (Post-Crisis)
• Bazim-Gorag the Firebringer
• Ripper (XBlaze)
• Mr. Fear
• Kon Tatsumi
• Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel)
• Tsubasa Hanekawa (Magia Record)
• Momiji (Binbougami Ga!)
• Gaia (Baki)
• Zennon (Original)
• Roi Alphard
• Doctor Octopus (Raimi)
• Mister Negative
• Ghost Rider (Robbie Reyes - Marvel Comics)
• Fortuna (Spirit Circle)
• Catwoman (2004 movie)
• Fantomex
• Konno Yuki
• Rikuni Takuto
• Yasaka Fuuri
• Saouji Meguru
• Kamen Rider Cross-Z Evol
• Kamen Rider Den-O (his Climax form didn't explain if he was possessed or not even there)
• Avenger (Demon King Nobunaga)
• Keena Soga
• The Bulk
• André Bourgeois
• Audrey Bourgeois
• Shakugan
• Pinwheel
• Hoaxen (Shadow Fight)
• Gene (Emoji Movie)
• Mu Siyun

This is the list, I'm bumping it for practicality.

 

[Randomlamdom]

For tart, oriko mikuni, riz, kazumi subaru, ren isuzu, iroha tamaki, amane sisters, tsubasa hanakawa (magia record) can summon their witch forms as a doppel that have their own minds and can act separately from them
should've looked at this earlier

 

[Rez]

This is the list, I'm bumping it for practicality.

Utsuro should have type 1 multiple selves his personalities are quite drastic and are more like different brain kinda like hulk's personalities fighting for dominance of course utsuro is the original personality he created these personalities during his work with naraku and he later on kills the other personalities to become himself again so I think he qualifies

 

[Rez]

This is the list, I'm bumping it for practicality.

Web novel rimuru should have it for the same reasons as his ln version

 

[Rez]

This is the list, I'm bumping it for practicality.

Sho should have type 1 too since his other selve was born from a plume of dusk implant inside him sho can talk with him as well it's been a long time since I have played the game but I am sure he loses the other self in the ending also both sho and minazuki have different arcanas which should qualify them for a possibile type 2

 

[SamanPatou]

To start off, thanks to all for your contributions!

For tart, oriko mikuni, riz, kazumi subaru, ren isuzu, iroha tamaki, amane sisters, tsubasa hanakawa (magia record) can summon their witch forms as a doppel that have their own minds and can act separately from them
should've looked at this earlier

Are these doppels separate entities? Because if it's like a "cloning ability" then it doesn' qualify, the "multiple self" must be within you, either mentally, spiritually or phisically.

Utsuro should have type 1 multiple selves his personalities are quite drastic and are more like different brain kinda like hulk's personalities fighting for dominance of course utsuro is the original personality he created these personalities during his work with naraku and he later on kills the other personalities to become himself again so I think he qualifies

You can write a quick, formal description for it and add it to the profile if you wish.

Web novel rimuru should have it for the same reasons as his ln version

Same as above

Sho should have type 1 too since his other selve was born from a plume of dusk implant inside him sho can talk with him as well it's been a long time since I have played the game but I am sure he loses the other self in the ending also both sho and minazuki have different arcanas which should qualify them for a possibile type 2

Same as above again.