Multiple Selves thread.

[SamanPatou]

@Antvasima Another thing to do is replace the image on the page, as it's outdated and represents something that doesn't qualify.

I was thinking of three images, one for each type:

Multiple Minds: "The Living Tribunal is an entity comprised of three different consciousnesses"

Multiple Souls: "Ermac is composed of many souls inhabiting a single body"

Multiple Organisms: "Venom and Eddie Brock cohexist in a symbiotic relationship"

 

[Antvasima]

That is probably fine.

 

[Oleggator]

@Antvasima Another thing to do is replace the image on the page, as it's outdated and represents something that doesn't qualify.

I was thinking of three images, one for each type:

Multiple Minds: "The Living Tribunal is an entity comprised of three different consciousnesses"

Multiple Souls: "Ermac is composed of many souls inhabiting a single body"

Multiple Organisms: "Venom and Eddie Brock cohexist in a symbiotic relationship"

Imo, I feel there can be someone except for tribunal.

Other is good

 

[Randomlamdom]

To start off, thanks to all for your contributions!


Are these doppels separate entities? Because if it's like a "cloning ability" then it doesn' qualify, the "multiple self" must be within you, either mentally, spiritually or phisically.

Yes, probably? Thinking more about it i'm not sure, the doppel descriptions refer to the magical girls as the masters of them and consider them seperate. In the anime iroha's takes control over her, and yachiyo's mocks her in her mind. In the game to fully control the doppel they basically have to go in their mind and beat it up, one of the stories has a few other characters watching this.
If you want someone to explain it better more information i could link this thread to the puella general

And also remembered that tart's final key has riz's soul gem

 

[SamanPatou]

Imo, I feel there can be someone except for tribunal.

I was thinking to Aliex X, but I can't find good shots of all three personalities together.

Other than that, I can't think of other instances of characters that showcase a specific type 1, suggestions are welcomed.

Yes, probably? Thinking more about it i'm not sure, the doppel descriptions refer to the magical girls as the masters of them and consider them seperate. In the anime iroha's takes control over her, and yachiyo's mocks her in her mind. In the game to fully control the doppel they basically have to go in their mind and beat it up, one of the stories has a few other characters watching this.
If you want someone to explain it better more information i could link this thread to the puella general

And also remembered that tart's final key has riz's soul gem

From what I get from the first paragraph, they are separate and the rest is like telepathy and possession stuff, so I don't think they qualify. I don't know what a soul gem is, but is sentient? If it's like a crystalized soul it counts only if sentient, even if dormant.

 

[Antvasima]

I was thinking to Aliex X, but I can't find good shots of all three personalities together.

Try getting a good quality screencapture from the Galactic Gladiator episode, or the one wherein Ben restores the universe. He was talking with the other personalities in it.

 

[Rez]

I was thinking to Aliex X, but I can't find good shots of all three personalities together.

Other than that, I can't think of other instances of characters that showcase a specific type 1, suggestions are welcomed.

How is this? Another good suggestion will be Bruce talking with Hulk in Avengers earth heroes or Hulk fighting his other personalities in Bruce's mind in the comics.

 

[Antvasima]

Fandom does not seem to allow directly hotlinking images.

Use this format instead:

https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/File:XB2_(246).png

 

[Antvasima]

ANyway, the image seems fine, but it is better if one with Serena, Bellicus, and Ben in combination is used.

 

[SamanPatou]

That is the one I had found, but I decided to discard it because Ben was barely visible on that dark background.

I think this one looks better, with Ben's presence is more clear.

My knowledge on Ben 10 stops at Alien Force. I knew Alien X had appeared in other series, but I didn't know if there were this type of shots, thanks Ant.

Also, I'd like to add a note on the summary of the page, explaining that "normal personality disorders" (I will word it better) qualify only if they have a heavy impact on the character's powers, abilities and are extremely relevant. I also want to add that Multiple Souls must be sentient, even barely, otherwise characters with non-sentinet soul stocks could receive this power.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that Saman's image seems fine to apply.'

His other suggestions also seem fine to me.

 

[Oleggator]

The Ben one feels pretty good. At bare least you can see the purpose of ability communication wise.

 

[SamanPatou]

What would a good caption be? Something like this, perhaps.

"Alien X possesses three independent consciousnesses: Bellicus, Serena and Ben Tennyson"

 

[Antvasima]

What would a good caption be? Something like this, perhaps.

"Alien X possesses three independent consciousnesses: Bellicus, Serena and Ben Tennyson"

That seems fine, yes.

 

[Randomlamdom]

From what I get from the first paragraph, they are separate and the rest is like telepathy and possession stuff, so I don't think they qualify. I don't know what a soul gem is, but is sentient? If it's like a crystalized soul it counts only if sentient, even if dormant.

Okay, guess doppels don’t qualify.
All magical girls are soul gems remotely controlling their body, riz lost hers and tart took her, becoming a fusion later with both of them using tart’s body

 

[SamanPatou]

I've added the new pictures and the explanations about personalities and souls.

 

[Confluctor]

Btw Moon Knight is missing Multiple Selves in his profile. He qualifies for Type 1

 

[SamanPatou]

Btw Moon Knight is missing Multiple Selves in his profile. He qualifies for Type 1

He has multiple brains or something like that, right? You can write a quick explanation and add the power, if you wish.

 

[SamanPatou]

Also, I think the following characters should have the power:

• Carnage Type 3. Easy, is a symbiotic relationship just like Venom.
• Filia, Squigly and Eliza: Type 3 as well, they live with parasytes which are basically symbiotes.
• Crona: Type 3, Ragnarok is another symbiote-like creature
• Ermac: Type 2, he is composed of many souls, each with its own consciouscness, inside a single body.
• Wendy Marvell: Type 1; When Irene Belserion died, she enchanted her personality into Wendy, and can either remain dormant or come out depending on the situation. She could even briefly control Wendy's body.
• Dugtrio, Magneton/Magnezon, Dodrio, Exeggutor, Weezing and Thu-Fi-Zer: Type 3, all of them have multiple heads, which counts as such.
• Stakataka, Falinks, School Wishiwashi and Zygarde: Type 3; All of them are comprised of many organisms put together in a way or another, even Zygarde's cells, which can act autonomously
• Kangaskhan: Type 3 for living with her baby.
• Slowbro and Slowking: Type 3 for existing with a Shellder attached to them.

 

[Cloozuma]

Also, I think the following characters should have the power:

• Carnage Type 3. Easy, is a symbiotic relationship just like Venom.

All symbiotes should have type 3 tho

 

[SamanPatou]

Right, I forgot of how many other versions of Venom were out there, they should get it as well. Is Gwenom's symbiote sentient?

 

[Zencha9]

If you have troubles regarding type 3 then I think shinichi izumi and migi would be the perfect example of type 3

 

[SamanPatou]

They already have it.

 

[Confluctor]

He has multiple brains or something like that, right? You can write a quick explanation and add the power, if you wish.

Alright I will do that later today

 

[Damage3245]

Is there anything left to be done here?

 

[StekFence]

Hmm. Hades Shun from saint seiya should have type 2. Maybye 1. Hades soul resides in and controls the body of shun, but shun can still regain control briefly. Both souls coexist(albeit not very peacefully) in one body. And, there’s like a weird bug thing that is inside shuns body, that is the soul of hades. It might be organic, because characters have physically grabbed and attacked it, but that could also be cos of the characters soul manip. It basically acts physical, but is called a soul.

 

[Antvasima]

Is there anything left to be done here?

@SamanPatou

 

[SamanPatou]

We are over with this, but I thought it was a good idea to keep the thread open, so people can check this list and see if one of those characters truly deserves the new Multiple Selves.

This is a list of all characters from which I removed Multiple Personalities because they didn't have an explanation. Any users is welcome to check it out and give reasons or make a CRT to give the new ability back to their characters. I'm not going to put links to make my work shorter, they are on the wiki anyway. The list will be updated overtime,

Note that these are only the characters that got it removed because they lack an explanation, thus it doesn't contain those who don't have it anymore because it doesn't qualify as an actual power.

• Heather Mason
• Legion (Mass Effect)
• Millennian Io
• Nia Teppelin
• Raiden Mei
• Raven (Rage Hearts Path)
• Seele Vollerei
• Soldier (TF2)
• Kalista
• Varus
• Utsuro
• Tart
• Oriko Mikuni
• Riz
• Rumplestiltskin (OUAT)
• Rai Batenkaios
• Captain Underpants
• Green Goblin (Raimi)
• Kazumi Subaru
• Chloe O'Bell (Web Novel)
• Santa Claus (The Librarians)
• Ataru Moroboshi
• Gildedguy
• Ren Isuzu
• Iroha Tamaki
• Amane Sisters
• Sho Minazuki
• Johan (Sekien no Iganock)
• Merkava
• Zuckuss
• Elise (Azure Striker Gunvolt)
• Snake of Clearing Eyes
• Seiso Hazakura
• Berio Trope
• The Joker (DCAU)
• Springheel Jack (Strawberry Spring)
• Two-Face (Post-Crisis)
• Bazim-Gorag the Firebringer
• Ripper (XBlaze)
• Mr. Fear
• Kon Tatsumi
• Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel)
• Tsubasa Hanekawa (Magia Record)
• Momiji (Binbougami Ga!)
• Gaia (Baki)
• Zennon (Original)
• Roi Alphard
• Doctor Octopus (Raimi)
• Mister Negative
• Ghost Rider (Robbie Reyes - Marvel Comics)
• Fortuna (Spirit Circle)
• Catwoman (2004 movie)
• Fantomex
• Konno Yuki
• Rikuni Takuto
• Yasaka Fuuri
• Saouji Meguru
• Kamen Rider Cross-Z Evol
• Kamen Rider Den-O (his Climax form didn't explain if he was possessed or not even there)
• Avenger (Demon King Nobunaga)
• Keena Soga
• The Bulk
• André Bourgeois
• Audrey Bourgeois
• Shakugan
• Pinwheel
• Hoaxen (Shadow Fight)
• Gene (Emoji Movie)
• Mu Siyun

 

[Damage3245]

I see. I think it might be best for the thread to be over now, and further changes to individual profiles could just have CRT's made for them.

 

[SamanPatou]

Yeah, I thinks so too now. My main concern was that users and supporters might not have noticed the ability being removed from profiles (it just didn't have any explanation whatsoever) and they could use this thread if they realized it, but at the same time they can just make a CRT.

So yes, just close this, at most CRTs will be made for these characters.