Multiple Selves thread.

[Oleggator]

Due to discussion, of changing "Multiple personalities" to "Multiple selves", I decided to make a thread where people can help to others, mods in particular with finding character with multiple selves having "multiple personalities" on profile and if capable to, helping with decision of type of Multiple selves.

I would like also to introduce those types:

Type 1: Multiple selves in mind.

Type 2: Multiple selves in soul.

Type 3: Multiple selves in organic.

Thanks in advance for everyone who would help with changes.

I don't know if I'm allowed to do this thread, but would know now.

 

[KingTempest]

Off of the top of my head.

All the Jinchuriki from Naruto.
All the Fusions in Dragon Ball.
Ben 10 with the Celestialsapiens.

 

[Oleggator]

Also, if you can, specify the types.

Although, thanks for helping here.

 

[KingTempest]

All the Jinchuriki from Naruto.

Type 1

All the Fusions in Dragon Ball.

Type 2

Ben 10 with the Celestialsapiens.

Type 1

Although, thanks for helping here.

No problem

 

[SamanPatou]

I will be afk for awhile, but you can check which pages link to the Multiple Personalities page.

I will also change the name and apply the types later today.

 

[KingTempest]

Pages that link to "Multiple Personalities" | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

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[Nullflowerblush]

Bubaigawara / Twice has Type 1 Multiple Selves.
Diavolo & Vinegar Doppio are Type 2.
Kevin Wendell Crumb would have Type 1.

 

[Zencha9]

Yugi has 1 and 2

 

[Damage3245]

Here is a category with characters classed as "Multiple Personalities Users".

 

[Oleggator]

Here is a category with characters classed as "Multiple Personalities Users".

Thanks, although if someone would need to specify ype you guys can always ask here.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Using the categories (there is a duplicate one):

Split Personalities

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1. Alien X
2. Android 21
3. André Bourgeois
4. Angel/Angelus
5. Ataru Moroboshi
6. Aurora (Marvel Comics)
7. Avenger (Demon King Nobunaga)
8. Ayer
9. Bakura Ryou (Anime)
10. Bazim-Gorag the Firebringer
11. Beta (Inazuma Eleven)
12. Blitztank
13. Blitzwing (Transformers Animated)
14. Brunhilde (Valkyria Revolution)
15. Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story)
16. Captain Underpants
17. Carnage (Marvel Comics)
18. Catwoman (2004 Movie)
19. Cavendish (One Piece)
20. Celestialsapiens
21. Chimera (Dungeons and Dragons)
22. Chloe O’Bell (Web Novel)
23. Cortana
24. Daredevil (Marvel Comics)
25. Devastator (G1 Cartoon)
26. Diavolo
27. Doctor Polaris (Post-Crisis)
28. Doomsday (Smallville)
29. Dr. Henry Jekyll (Horrorclix)
30. Elisa Celjska
31. Elise (Azure Striker Gunvolt)
32. Ettin
33. Evil Ryu
34. Fantomex (Marvel Comics)
35. Fortuna
36. Fubuki Shirou
37. Gabriel (Gabriel Dropout)
38. Gaia (Baki)
39. Galactic Gladiator
40. Gambit
41. Geary (Crash Bandicoot)
42. Gene (The Emoji Movie)
43. Ghost Dog
44. Ghost Rider (Robbie Reyes - Marvel Comics)
45. Goku (Dragonball Evolution)
46. Gollum
47. Green Goblin (Raimi Spider-Man Trilogy)
48. Hantengu
49. Hewdraw
50. Homer Simpson
51. Homura Akemi (Magia Record)
52. Hosuke Sharaku
53. Hulk (1970s)
54. Hulk (Marvel Comics)
55. Hydra (Dungeons and Dragons)
56. Hydra (Godzilla)
57. Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip)
58. Ichigo Kurosaki (Pre-Timeskip)
59. Ichihoshi Hikaru
60. Iwakura Lain
61. J. Robert Oppenheimer (Super Science Friends)
62. Jahy
63. Janus (Nightmares of Alamir)
64. Jesse Faden
65. Jio Freed
66. Johan (Sekien no Inganock)
67. Kamen Rider Cross-Z Build
68. Kamen Rider Cross-Z Evol
69. Kamen Rider Den-O
70. Kamen Rider Drive
71. Kamen Rider Ex-Aid
72. Kamen Rider Sasword
73. Kamen Rider Zeronos
74. Kamen Rider Zi-O Trinity
75. Keena Soga
76. Kenichi Shirahama
77. Killer B
78. King Ghidorah (MonsterVerse)
79. Konno Yuki
80. Kotonoha Nanase
81. Launch (Dragon Ball)
82. Legion (Marvel Comics)
83. Legion (Mass Effect)
84. Luck Voltia
85. Lucy (Elfen Lied)
86. Magical Girl (Jahy-sama Won't Be Discouraged!)
87. Magik (Marvel Comics)
88. Mahiru Banba
89. Maki Sonomura
90. Marik Ishtar (Anime)
91. Melissa
92. Merkava
93. Mister Negative
94. Moka Akashiya
95. Moon Knight (Marvel Comics)
96. Naruto Uzumaki (Part II: Pre-War Arc)
97. Naruto Uzumaki (Part II: War Arc)
98. Neptune (Hyperdimension Neptunia)
99. New Goblin (Raimi Spider-Man Trilogy)
100. Oriko Mikuni
101. Panda King
102. Pandora (Persona)
103. Penelope
104. Pinwheel
105. Platinum the Trinity
106. Pyra (Xenoblade)
107. Rai Batenkaitos
108. Raiden (Metal Gear)
109. Raven (Teen Titans)
110. Reiner Braun
111. Ren Suzugamori
112. Rider (Ivan the Terrible)
113. Rikuni Takuto
114. Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel)
115. Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel)
116. Rinko Jerrard
117. Roger Smith
118. Roi Alphard
119. Roy Han
120. Ryou Bakura (Manga)
121. Ryougi Shiki
122. Saechika Hachiouji
123. Sakura Haruno
124. Sam Winchester
125. Satella (Re:Zero)
126. Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
127. Seiso Hazakura
128. Senya
129. Seven
130. Shakugan
131. Shallan Davar
132. She-Hulk
133. Shigeo Kageyama
134. Shinobu Sensui
135. Shiro (Deadman Wonderland)
136. Sho Minazuki
137. Slinky Dog (Toy Story)
138. Snake of Clearing Eyes
139. Springheel Jack (Strawberry Spring)
140. Starbeard
141. Sui (Darwin's Game)
142. Suzumi Kuzu
143. Takahisa Tajima
144. The Ellimist
145. The Horde
146. The Law of Identity
147. The Lizard (Marvel Comics)
148. Tira
149. Tomura Shigaraki
150. Torque
151. Tsubasa Hanekawa
152. Tsubasa Hanekawa (Magia Record)
153. Twice
154. Two-Face (Arkham Series)
155. Two-Face (Post-Crisis)
156. Typhoid Mary (Marvel Comics)
157. Utsuro
158. Venom (Edward Brock)
159. Vivid Blue
160. Vivid Green
161. Vivid Red
162. Vivid Yellow
163. Yamata no Orochi (Godzilla: Rage Across Time)
164. Yasaka Fuuri
165. Yugi Muto (Anime)
166. Yugi Muto (Manga)
167. Yuuki Kagurazaka (Web Novel)
168. Yuya Sakaki (Anime)
169. Yuya Sakaki (Manga)
170. Zennon (Original)

Multiple Personalities Users

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1. Alastor (Hazbin Hotel)
2. Benio Enmado (Manga)
3. Bishamon
4. Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell)
5. Evankhell
6. Han Jee-Han (War for The Origin)
7. Heather Mason
8. Hitori Tachibana
9. Homer Simpson
10. Izuku Midoriya (Deku)
11. Jesse Faden
12. Kasagi Shizuku
13. Khel Hellam
14. Kousaka Haruka
15. Legion (Mass Effect)
16. Majin Buu (Chou)
17. Millennian Io
18. Neptune (Hyperdimension Neptunia: The Animation)
19. Nia Teppelin
20. Oscar Pine
21. Ozpin
22. Raiden Mei
23. Raven (Rage Hearts Path)
24. Red Death (The Venture Bros.)
25. Revolver Ocelot
26. Scarlet (I'm the Grim Reaper)
27. Seele Vollerei
28. Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
29. Tatewaki Shouko
30. Tomura Shigaraki
31. Troll (Dungeons and Dragons)
32. Twenty-Fifth Baam
33. Twenty-Fifth Baam (Season 3)
34. Twice
35. V (Cyberpunk 2077)
36. Venom (Edward Brock)
37. Warrior of Light (Final Fantasy XIV)
38. White (Hoaqin)
39. Yugito Nii

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So basically we do a quick scan for pages not included in the lists above, and then divide the work?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Since "Multiple Personalities" is becoming "Multiple Selves", several characters would lose the power:

• Alastor (Hazbin Hotel)—his Multiple Personalities came from his shadow being sentient and his microphone being an extension of himself.
• Roger Smith—all of his personas are just characters that he made up.
• New Goblin (Raimi Spider-Man Trilogy)—he has multiple personalities, but not multiple minds or souls or organisms inhabiting his body.
• The Lizard (Marvel Comics)—same as above.
• Android 21—same as above.
• Launch (Dragon Ball)—same as above.
• Shigeo Kageyama—same as above.
• The Horde—same as above.
• Twice—Jin does not have multiple minds, his mind is just fractured.
• Revolver Ocelot—I've never actually played the MGS games, but I've watched videogamedunkey's recap of the storyline and from what I've gathered, Revolver Ocelot does not actually have Multiple Selves, he just conditioned himself into believing he had multiple minds.

As for characters who retain their power but have a Type attributed to them:

• Diavolo, Type 2—The souls of Diavolo and Vinegar Doppio inhabit one body.
• Izuku Midoriya (Deku), Types 1 and 2—The minds and the of the previous users of One For All exist within Izuku.
• Majin Buu (Chou), Types 1, 2, and 3—The Grand Supreme Kai literally exists inside of him, and Buu can become him on a whim.
• Tomura Shigaraki, Type 1—All For One's mind exists within Tomura.
• Moka Akashiya, Types 1, 2, and 3—Inner Moka is Moka's true self, and Outer Moka is actually her mother Akasha inside of the rosario.

Unfortunately, those are the only characters I know.

 

[Damage3245]

If everyone is fine with it, I can remove the ability and category from those characters listed up above who need it removed.

 

[Oleggator]

If everyone is fine with it, I can remove the ability and category from those characters listed up above who need it removed.

I'm totally fine.

 

[Oleggator]

Btw Raz's psycho portal abilities justification contains multiple personalities, it can be changed into multiple selves type 1 (He can directly "delete" a second person from person's mind).

 

[Abstractions]

Type 3: Multiple selves in organic.

Pretty sure some characters from Parasyte will qualify for this.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

1. Satella (Re:Zero)- Type 1 (Absorbing the Envy Witch Factor caused the creation of the Witch of Envy personality who is different from Satella, Satella being kind, caring etc, Envy being possessive and chaotic)
2. Kousaka Haruka- Type 1 (Basically due to being a shy and timid person, she wanted to be someone who is confident, her powers which turns her fantasies into reality, created her other personality, who actually is more competent at using their powers.)
3. Tatewaki Shouko -Type 2 (She is being possessed by a dead person)

 

[SamanPatou]

I've updated the page and placed some examples, one more for types 2 and 3 would be useful.

The image also needs to be changed, but we can deal with it later.

 

[Oleggator]

I've updated the page and placed some examples, one more for types 2 and 3 would be useful.

The image also needs to be changed, but we can deal with it later.

Ryuko can be good type 3 example I think.
Don't know about type 2 stuff.
Image as example can maybe used this scene, but this is just suggestion.

 

[SamanPatou]

Also, thank you to everyone who is helping and will help from now on.

Just a thing, iirc characters with multiple personalities are still included as multiple minds as long as this gives them something relevant in form of superpowers.

I will start working more on this tomorrow.

 

[SamanPatou]

Btw, how do we handle the categories? We merge the current one and then rename it, if it's possible?

@Oleggator Nice catch, Ryujo is really a good example, I've added her.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Ryomen Sukuna reincarnated through Yuji Itadori's body, and that would qualify for Type 2, but he does not have a page yet.
Amon bonded with Akira Fudo and became a part of his body, which is Type 3.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

• Roi_Alphard and Rai_Batenkaitos- Type 1 (Eat people's name and memories then remake their bodies like those people, which their sister Louis/Rui controls)
• M-Type 1? (Took over James Moriarty body, causing his personality to split in 2, Baron who rejects tomorrow and M, who searches for someone who doesn't give up)

@SamanPatou What exactly does relevant in terms of superpower mean for the qualifications? Satella's multiple selves came from a superpower, but it doesn't really give her any superpowers, i mean she gets the authority of envy, i guess that counts, though both personalities should be able to use that.

Kousaka Haruka i think is fine since her other personality actually is mentioned to be smarter and more competent at using her powers, as for M, the only real difference between M and Baron are their roles, they have the same powers.

 

[ImNot4nUser]

Twenty fifth Baam
Type 1 and 2, perhaps even 3, has two ¨demons¨ and a data replica of himself that he absorbed inside of him and also a billion souls

 

[SamanPatou]

@SamanPatou What exactly does relevant in terms of superpower mean for the qualifications? Satella's multiple selves came from a superpower, but it doesn't really give her any superpowers, i mean she gets the authority of envy, i guess that counts, though both personalities should be able to use that.

Afaik stuff like body modifications, superpowers, particular abilities (even not supernatural) and so on.

This to differentiate from characters who naturally have the disease and those who can gain something extraordinary because of it being fiction.

I don't know about Satella, but the root is if it's something she has or has developed naturally or got via something magical and such.

The main thing is avoid addressing a power or special ability something that is naturally a disease, unless the characters can get something special out of it, I you get what I mean.

Characters who have or have developed them with external or magical influence should be fine.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

If it's just a difference between having the disease naturally, and gaining something due to fiction, then M is fine. Baron and M were formed due to M possessing James, it caused a split literally in terms of personality and a physical one, Baron can switch with M's body, but he also normal is operating in separate body away from M.

In short, same body in 2 different locations, with 2 different personalities, one who feels nothing, looking for someone to not give up, the other being a jester who mocks humanity.

As for Satella, she was the original personality, the Witch of Envy persona is like below average in intellect, she is said to not understand language, while Satella is normal, if anything she lost something from it, though she got to be the one of the most powerful character in Re Zero cause of absorbing the Factor and gaining that Witch personality, so she is cool too i guess.

 

[SamanPatou]

I need inputs for the following characters and how their multiple selves powers, and I'm going to call some knowledgeable people on each series (I don't need to tag two times people who are knowleadgeable on multiple series, I guess)

Also, remember that some characters may not qualify, as stated in the previous messages.

Gambit, Savage She Hulk, Daredevil, Living Tribunal (I think it's type 1 for the latter, but I'm unsure): @WeeklyBattles @Elizhaa @Antvasima

Shinobu Sensui: @DarkDragonMedeus @TISSG7Redgrave @Soldier_Blue

All Naruto(s), Minato, Killer B, Gaara, Sakura likely other Naruto characters: @KingTempest @DemonGodMitchAubin

Raiden (Metal Gear) I know it's type 1 from Jack the Ripper, but I don't know in which point of the story he developes him, I don't remember him having JtR in MGS2, but I havent't played MGS4 yet: @Armorchompy @SpookyShadow

Revolver Ocelot: Same people for Raiden

Sora. I know the heart is different from the mind and the soul, thus I don't know which type of Multiple Selves fits Sora (and Ventus' heart should also be mentioned on the profile, I guess): @Bobsican

Soldies (TF2): @Da_Lunge_Fish @Abstractions

Ling Yao: @Migue79 @TheRustyOne @Matthew_Schroeder

Nia Teppelin: @BluudyManikin777

Black Rock Shooter (Anime): @Newendigo @ShadowWarrior1999

Kalista and Varus: @WeeklyBattles

 

[John985]

I think Goetia qualify for all type. He's conglomeration of 72 Demon god Pillar.

 

[Damage3245]

Sakura doesn't qualify.

The Jinchuriki from Naruto should be Type 1, 2 and 3.

 

[SamanPatou]

I think Goetia qualify for all type. He's conglomeration of 72 Demon god Pillar.

Can you give me a more accurate description, or do you think this is already self-explanatory for people who know the series, even to a limited extent?

@Damage3245 Same question for the Naruto guys and their Jinchuriki

 

[John985]

Yeah it's self-explanatory for people who know the series.

His personality is explain in his profile in typemoon wiki.

Since he has King Solomon as a base, his personality is intellectual (albeit frightening). That being said, as he is the aggregate-body of the 72 demons, his personality・disposition amounts to 72. Because he is an individual and a colony, whenever talking to others, a “demon” resembling the other party comes to surface. This is the reason why Goetia’s disposition is evaluated as that of a “mirror”.

 

[Cloozuma]

Ryomen Sukuna reincarnated through Yuji Itadori's body, and that would qualify for Type 2, but he does not have a page yet.

He does

 

[Nullflowerblush]

No, not Ryomen. Yuji doesn't have a page yet.

 

[Metalballrun]

Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel) gets Type 1 in his second key.
Gobta (Light Novel) gets All Types with Magic Wolf Transformation, he fuses with Ranga and turns into a werewolf, with both consciousness cooperating in battle. Likewise, Ranga (Light Novel) gets the same ability as well. They previously did not have Multiple Personalities in their page, and it's only when they fuse.

 

[Antvasima]

I need inputs for the following characters and how their multiple selves powers, and I'm going to call some knowledgeable people on each series (I don't need to tag two times people who are knowleadgeable on multiple series, I guess)

Also, remember that some characters may not qualify, as stated in the previous messages.

Gambit, Savage She Hulk, Daredevil, Living Tribunal (I think it's type 1 for the latter, but I'm unsure): @WeeklyBattles @Elizhaa @Antvasima

I do not think that current Gambit and Daredevil have multiple selves.

The current version of the the She-Hulk seems to have several minds/personalities, as does The Living Tribunal.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Raiden (Metal Gear) Jack the Ripper was introduced in Revengance, but the persona is something he created when he was a child soldier, and has been suppressing during MGS2 and MGS4. So I think throughout is fine.
Revolver Ocelot comes from the Liquid Ocelot persona. Revolver claims that he has been possessed by Liquid Ocelot (psychic powers and possession are a thing in the verse), but it is revealed that Ocelot was faking it, and the persona was created through hypnosis, drugs, and nanomachines. So Type 1.

Sakura doesn't qualify.

Inner Sakura has been described as an additional different psyche in Sakura's mind, though it disappeared mid-way through part 1, and only makes a single appearance in the beginning of part 2.

 

[Damage3245]

Inner Sakura has been described as an additional different psyche in Sakura's mind, though it disappeared mid-way through part 1, and only makes a single appearance in the beginning of part 2.

It's still not a separate mind, it's a split personality at best.

 

[SamanPatou]

Split personality are allowed as long as they grant something significant to the character, and in this case it seems that allowed Sakura to resist some mind hax shenanigan, correct me if I'm wrong.

The whole point is that split personalities are can be mentioned if they allow the character to achieve something special.

They don't qualify if this second personality just exists by itself, in that case it's just pointing out their condition.

@ShadowWhoWalks Does Liquid Ocelot give or grant something special or notable to Revolver Ocelot, outside of sheer characterization? If it is just there, it can't be mentioned as a power/ability.

It could be mentioned in the summary or somewhere else, like in the name section perhaps, but not within Powers&Abilities.

 

[SamanPatou]

To rephrase the whole thing, we must draw the line between the situation where a character has just a split personality illness (disease was the wrong word, and I'm still unsure about illness) and when it is actually used for special powers, resistances and such.

We can't label an illness as a power just because it exists, but for the indexing purposes of the wiki we are allowed to do it when this applies to the characters' abilities and powers in a meaningful way, because it's fiction.

Take blindness as an example; it would be offensive and useless to list it as a power for no reason, but when a character is able to to obtain super senses and more because or as a consequence of it, then we can list it.

Or even characters with a prosthesis, we can't call it cyborgization or else out of nothing, but we can list is as a power when said prosthesis is a weapon or a special machine (Guts from Berserk, Jax from Mortal Kombat) or gives something else (Like Erza from Fairy Tail, who can resist illusion magic because of her artificial eye).

 

[Antvasima]

To rephrase the whole thing, we must draw the line between the situation where a character has just a split personality illness (disease was the wrong word, and I'm still unsure about illness) and when it is actually used for special powers, resistances and such.

We can't label an illness as a power just because it exists, but for the indexing purposes of the wiki we are allowed to do it when this applies to the characters' abilities and powers in a meaningful way, because it's fiction.

Agreed. We should try to avoid being offensive and inconsiderate.