I’m not. I presented the entire context, and nearly half of the chapter in this thread, what? All I was trying to prove was that ultra instinct makes your body stronger and durable as needed by the user. And I did show evidence for that. And I said nothing about speed, I have no idea if ultra instinct does that for speed as well.
No, that just greater Instinctive Reaction, was already on Goku profile
Goku already has resistance to information analysis
He has resistance for this exact feat so no enhanced resistance
That’s begging the question. You said this statement means X, when I said otherwise and gave more evidence for my interpretation being the case, and you looped back to saying all this is wrong because X is true. Like what?
Yeah I already changed the OP, the already given resistance for information analysis is fine. I’m just waiting on the res to pp and greater rpl.
You still nitpicking on Moro part who just get bulkier because his body can't handle Merus power for long. You still failed to prove that their Ki increases over the time, you focus on some certain word while ignore the entire context. And lastly why Goku can't get stronger over time when fought Granolah when he used UI all the time, don't tell me it just magically disappear after 1 battle
Yeah, this is what I said, but apparently they thought MUI makes Goku's vitals disappear, and then 1 minute later when the accuracy drops, the vitals return. Which is why Granolah could pinpoint and one-shot him.
How in the hell does a technique that makes you move on instinct makes your biological pressure points disappear? Makes no sense. This is just the same concept as Goku shifting his pressure point vitals away from granolah's attacks to prevent a one shot, just unbelievably more potent.
Literally everything you said was a repetition of what I already addressed and explained. I’m not nitpicking nor being disingenuous, I literally showed evidence for everything I said, it’s a matter of looking at what I sent. If you chose to ignore the blatant statements and implications then I cannot help you. You are clearly disagreeing just to disagree, you haven’t even attacked the scans I sent, nor said anything that was wrong with it, you just accused me of taking things out of context, despite this not being the case, and repeat what you said.
Already responded to. UI doesn’t just flex your muscles or whatever, it literally bulks you up and apparently increases your energy.
Yeah no I completely disagree. If it was a matter of his stance or something akin then obviously his pp should still be perceivable, just not able to be hit. That’s not the case. Goku verbatim says ultra instinct should have no weaknesses, and Granolah notes that he cannot even perceive his vital points. That’s completely impossible for a “stance with no openings”.
Yeah, it was proposed that Goku should have resistance/limited immunity to Pressure Points because of this.
What Granolah means is Goku still has vital points, but can't find openings, which is what MUI does, it reacts, dodges and counterattacks everything.
This is back and forth at this point, you still failed the most basic thing in Dragon ball, which is the increasing in Ki, you can prove it at all, you nitpicking on the part where Moro said he got tougher and himself being bulkier, but nothing stated their overall combat power and speed got increased over time which is the basic requirement for Reactive Power Level. And my last point which you can't even debunk it, where is Goku Greater RPL in Granolah fight, did it magically disappear after 1 fight???, in Granolah arc, Goku can constantly use UI even in base form
Nah. Whis actually says it's merus' power that's making moro blow up, it's too strong for him and he hasn't learned how to use it, so that's why he's dying. Goku even says that moro is the doing the same mistake saganbo did, saganbo got so drunk on power that he his body could not handle that he destroyed his own body. The reason Goku says "abilities" is because moro's source of power is merus' ultra instinct which is an ability, however it's also a power boost which is why moro's energy got on the level of Goku's and why he started to blow up.
Hence the resistance to x ray vision and information analysis. His pressure points being non existent is contradicted by how UI works and this statement about Granolah finding openings in UI due to accuracy drop and not because his biological pressure points magically reappear.
Yeah the angel power they are referring to is ultra instinct. Which is why Goku explains it’s destroying Moro. Ultra instinct is literally making him blow up with power, not literal energy, which is why he gets bulkier in the specific areas in which he is attacked and needs to get stronger in. If it was literal energy, he wouldn’t be disproportionately blowing up in specific areas, that would make no sense.
First one we never see whether or not they stayed the same size so that doesn’t really help your point.
It’s almost as if the form deteriorates over time, hence the “Limited” idea. We know Goku has a hard time maintaining the form, to the point where he notes he can only maintain it for a short period of time, paired with the idea that his accuracy drops over time, it’s obvious Goku’s ultra instinct slowly loses all its capabilities.
It’s not, it’s just you repeating things I’ve already addressed. That’s not back and forth, that’s you arguing from repetition. And you do know that his ultra instinct in base-Ssb is imperfected right? And doesn’t have all of its capabilities? Which is why things such as his res to information analysis only exist in his mui key?
That's a good point. I suppose it's a combination of his body self destructing due to ultra instinct and merus' power. So I think rpl is fine.
"Limited" is applied to abilities or powers that have a limited application/use or functionality but still fall under the power.
Again you still couldn't prove that both Moro and Goku Ki increases over time when they fighting each other to dead or their combat power and speed which tied to the amount of ki they have, you nitpicking the part where Moro get bulkier and he said that he get tougher. And you still couldn't prove that somehow, in the entire Granolah arc despite Goku used UI all the time, from base to ssj to gods form and then Ui form his power remain the same aside from the increases come from each time he transforms into higher form
Noice.
Yeah in this case it has limited use/functionality by virtue of it being retained for a short period of time.
Isn’t ki how he gets more stats?
Yeah that’s what I’ve been saying, ui passively amps your ki in the spots you need to get stronger/durably in, which is reactive power level, or statistics amplification. Which would have to give the “greater” tag to since Goku already has both, and this is clearly better.
This is a different ability and applies to hus reactive pl and accelerated development.
Wait what do you mean by “different ability”?
Yeah, fluffy brought up it would be better if it’s labeled as passive statistics amplification, which I agreed with
That’s in reference to a difference aspect of ui, his movements. And I don’t really see it’s relevance personally.
