- 1,885
- 475
the first thread wasnt rly updated all that much, so that might be why
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Why would I? I told you that I wont argue him unless someone tries to kick him from the list and he is still somehow in 1st.Creaturemaster971 said:@Clueless Any counterarguments are welcome OvO
That's so wrong is not even laughable.RatherClueless said:unless you have good feats to back it up, it doesnt. its just a nice extra compared to characters that dont have experience.
So you mean to say that perfection doesn't exist but Ikki does.Firephoenixearl said:Technically Ikki got to the peak of skill his fate would allow in a few clashes with stella before going beyond what the fate/logic of the world would allow, so he technically transcended "experience" cus he reached what could be reached
Might as well.RatherClueless said:Why would I? I told you that I wont argue him unless someone tries to kick him from the list and he is still somehow in 1st.
I mean, he has "Extraordinary Genius" on his profile so idk if he's a failureFirephoenixearl said:More like "limit". Everyone has a limit they can reach. He was fighting Stella, but Stella is a once in several decades genius, Ikki is a failure, so the difference in talent was starting to show when Ikki reached the peak of his fate (became as good as his fate would allow him to be), then just broke through this fate to get better.
They said "he is now a being that exists beyond the logic of this world" which does explain how he can get conceptual shit with skill.
A failure in magic, not skill/intelligenceSpookyShadow said:I mean, he has "Extraordinary Genius" on his profile so idk if he's a failure
I will elaborate with Fugil.Ionliosite said:Actually, Fugil Arcadia should be above Lux. He outskills him even asleep.
And skill is just a lazy way to have characters do stuff with skill that no one would ever do with skill. And hax is a way to show how great a character is when that hax is not even earned many times.Firephoenixearl said:@Sir
That's so correct and should be that way. Oogway with WAY over 500 years of experience gets bodied in terms of skill by a 15 year old boy. Experience is just a lazy way authors use to describe skill like "how do i make a character skilled? Yeah i'll just add some random number beyond 1 million and give that to him as experience in years". What you learn during your experience cannot be assumed to be in any way superior to what humans are capable of. So a dude with a billion years of experience, that has learned everything, will be assumed to have composite human levels of skill, nothing superhuman unless shown. We don't go like "X character is beyond multiversal logic with his skill, oh but character Y has 1 year more worth of experience so YEET".
Yes if the verse has superhuman level feats, then yeah sure, if someone with 10 trillion years of experience who is stated to be superior will cap out at that level of feat. And as i said "experience is meaningless without context". If experience is used in verse to put someone out as "more than skilled than someone who has actual feats", then yes, if not then he just caps out at composite human level of skill.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:No Earl, I debunked nothing. None of those infinite numbers of people are the same, and the verse already has people with obviously superhuman levels of skill as Celestial pointed out. Experience is not a meaningless statement because feats tend to be preferred, that's dumb.
Idk why i liked this message, but it deserves a kudou.TacticalNuke002 said:This is a highly subjective, but somewhat quantifiable thread. Although, as long as your English writing skills are up to scratch, you can mindhax enough people to agree with you and get your character/s on the list.
So you are saying this is secretly a Social Influencing training camp.So you TacticalNuke002 said:This is a highly subjective, but somewhat quantifiable thread. Although, as long as your English writing skills are up to scratch, you can mindhax enough people to agree with you and get your character/s on the list.
By peak human i actually meant composite human. Peak human as in "peak of humanity" (what humanity is capable of achieving). My bad wording there. But my point stands as "no arguments of being above a supernatural feat with just experience".LSirLancelotDuLacl said:Last I saw this that's not how we treat composite human though.
And the problem is that you somehow think this is just "peak human". That's what I find absurd, and what I don't agree with, because it is indeed absurd.
TacticalNuke002 said:This is a highly subjective, but somewhat quantifiable thread. Although, as long as your English writing skills are up to scratch, you can mindhax enough people to agree with you and get your character/s on the list.