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Most annoying character for every tier
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@Blanked
The character isn't bad, but the wank and fan base makes him an annoying subject on vs wikis.
I suppose it's the same as 3-A/Low 2-C Dante.
The character isn't bad, but the wank and fan base makes him an annoying subject on vs wikis.
I suppose it's the same as 3-A/Low 2-C Dante.
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The supernatural wiki has Archangels as "Low Tier Nigh-Omnipotents".
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Also I entirely agree with this. Now finding wank of a character annoying, being annoyed when a character is mentioned due to wank or disliking a character you already disliked even more due to wank I can get. However just because there are certain fanboys of a character doesn't make the character itself any less good. You shouldn't dislike someone if there's no other reason besides wank.Gargoyle One said:
It kinda irritates me how people try to use VS debate crap as legitamate criticisms for writing. Like I've seen people say that shows aren't good because "they don't have enough hax" or someone disliking a character they used to really like only because they win too many VS matches on this site. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I find reasons like that pretty silly.
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I've noticed this during death battles, hate for both characters rise to the extreme with wank/downplay for their preffered character and ultimately no one wins, and that can be associated with the character which can hurt how much you like them.
Ultimately, I still like characters who are wanked to Oblivion (Dante is still one of my favorite video game characters) and I don't care about characters with a ton of hax (Stay Night Gilgamesh).
I generally do like verses that don't go into detail on hax all the time. I like seeing fun fist fightsor brawls is usually can make me help like a character for there sheer badassery, or just seeing how this character fights.
An example, Fate: In a series filled with hax of all bounds in conceptual weapons instant vaporization weapons, and so much more, some of the best fights are between the 'fodder' mages, like Shirou or Kiritsugu vs Kirei. And some of the more boring fights are ones where has is involved.
Gilgamesh: Tons of Treasury and incredible weapons yet loses because he's too stupid to use them when he needs too...Lame.
Kirei: Barely loses due to him being outsmarted and outlasted by Shirou.... That's badass!
I could go on and on.
Ultimately, I still like characters who are wanked to Oblivion (Dante is still one of my favorite video game characters) and I don't care about characters with a ton of hax (Stay Night Gilgamesh).
I generally do like verses that don't go into detail on hax all the time. I like seeing fun fist fightsor brawls is usually can make me help like a character for there sheer badassery, or just seeing how this character fights.
An example, Fate: In a series filled with hax of all bounds in conceptual weapons instant vaporization weapons, and so much more, some of the best fights are between the 'fodder' mages, like Shirou or Kiritsugu vs Kirei. And some of the more boring fights are ones where has is involved.
Gilgamesh: Tons of Treasury and incredible weapons yet loses because he's too stupid to use them when he needs too...Lame.
Kirei: Barely loses due to him being outsmarted and outlasted by Shirou.... That's badass!
I could go on and on.
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Here's the thing, disliking characters because of their fights in their verse is a legitimate reason to dislike them and sometimes it's purposely done to be that way.Blanked said:
We hate Seryu Ubiquitous because she's a ******* coward who distracted someone and shot them in the back to win.
We see and understand the fear that soldiers have when they see Abaddon due to his sheer merciless nature, and we rejoice when that opponent happens to get their comeuppons.
It can also get boring when a character consistently wins through asspulls and not through their actual strength and this made me drop FT not too far into the manga.
Battles in a verse are a legitimate reason to dislike or like a character and they are written that way
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Also I entirely agree with this. Now finding wank of a character annoying, being annoyed when a character is mentioned due to wank or disliking a character you already disliked even more due to wank I can get. However just because there are certain fanboys of a character doesn't make the character itself any less good. You shouldn't dislike someone if there's no other reason besides wank.
It kinda irritates me how people try to use VS debate crap as legitamate criticisms for writing. Like I've seen people say that shows aren't good because "they don't have enough hax" or someone disliking a character they used to really like only because they win too many VS matches on this site. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I find reasons like that pretty silly.
Some people get so addicted to versus debating they forget power of a verse isn't the same as quality of a verses writing/gameplay
Case in point, suggsverse.
It kinda irritates me how people try to use VS debate crap as legitamate criticisms for writing. Like I've seen people say that shows aren't good because "they don't have enough hax" or someone disliking a character they used to really like only because they win too many VS matches on this site. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I find reasons like that pretty silly.
Some people get so addicted to versus debating they forget power of a verse isn't the same as quality of a verses writing/gameplay
Case in point, suggsverse.
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Personally, I don't mind Hax at all. And it's good if they don't use it all the time if it is either out of character or just not what they are used to. But it would be better and cooler to see them use it in fights more often and in creative ways.
Like using Matter Manipulation to turn the ground into lava under your opponent's feet. That's cool.
Like using Matter Manipulation to turn the ground into lava under your opponent's feet. That's cool.
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Yeah, I enjoy seeing hax used in fights when it feels like a battle of wits and strategy with two extremely dangerous but totally different power sets going at it. It's one of the reasons why the first part of Naruto is still a ton of fun to go back to and watch. I still remember watching Shikamaru vs Temari for the first time and feeling the tension it built with how the two battled.
IMO: Limited power sets tend to make battles more interesting because theirs less stuff for characters to rely on, thus making their limited abilities count more. That's not always the case depending on the series, like what makes battles in Chaotic so fun to watch is the fact that these characters have ******* huge arsenals to pull from.
Of course, seeing a super haxed villain just conjuring bullshit powers out of nowhere to godstomp the heroes is pretty fun too.
IMO: Limited power sets tend to make battles more interesting because theirs less stuff for characters to rely on, thus making their limited abilities count more. That's not always the case depending on the series, like what makes battles in Chaotic so fun to watch is the fact that these characters have ******* huge arsenals to pull from.
Of course, seeing a super haxed villain just conjuring bullshit powers out of nowhere to godstomp the heroes is pretty fun too.
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This is actually a good analysis on why battles in that series were so fun. Even the least haxxed characters had massive varieties of powers, but it was all about using the right one at the right time. There was no power that was a catch-all.Darkanine said:
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I...still have my love/hate relationship wth hax. I ca like it, but I can also absolutely despise it. Like, for the most part, it works with games, because it can be unlocked, or restricted by mechanics, or not in that specific game. It's harder to get away with it in any other media with a cohesive story and said characters are main, but it's not impossible. I do appreciate overcoming via strategies and the like tho.
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hmm
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I really love Pokemon's Destiny Bond for that. In game its ok, but in versus battles it is pretty crazy.
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I mean I personally simply don't care if a series is haxed, haxless, strong or weak. What matters is if the series itself is enjoyable. A plain old sword fight can be as epic as a battle between reality warpers using the multiverse as their playground.
What matters is how it's written, how the characters are etc
What matters is how it's written, how the characters are etc
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Kaltias has the right idea with approaching a series.
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I agree with Kalitas. He pretty much summed up my opinion.
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@Blanked
I hate Zen'ō because he is wanked to 2-A
I hate Zen'ō because he is wanked to 2-A
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And now I'll say something clever to try and one up someone rather than try to be friendly.
Welcome to the Internet.
Welcome to the Internet.
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I mean, I could argue that you can hate in different ways (that sounds way worse when put into text...). Like, you could hate a character in the context of VSBW, but like them otherwise.
Anyway, I agree with Kaltias. Especially given that I like Friends more than I like 95% of the series here.
Anyway, I agree with Kaltias. Especially given that I like Friends more than I like 95% of the series here.
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Friends has great feats, man.
Here's Joey, holding an entire galaxy like nothing.
And here he is, escaping Chandler's pocket dimension, which as you can see, contains countless galaxies.
Here's Joey, holding an entire galaxy like nothing.
And here he is, escaping Chandler's pocket dimension, which as you can see, contains countless galaxies.
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That just made my week XD
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Friends vs Saint Seiya when?
