More Star Wars Revisions (JUST JANGO FETT and LIGHTSABER STUFF LEFT TO DISCUSS)

[Hellbeast1]

Is that how we do that scaling?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Isn't that why we get 6-B in the first place? Because the forcefields can take hundreds of shots?

 

[Hellbeast1]

I thought it was because there were dozens of ships

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Well Palptine scales to the MC85 Star Cruiser, which scales to the Resurgent-class Star Destroyer, which has 6-B shields for being "Far superior to the likes of the old Imperial I and Imperiall II-line thanks to a more advanced and powerful hypermatter reactor. Should be more than capable of taking an all batteries barrage from a ship with comparable destructive output, which would mean hundreds of heavy turbolaser shots with greater yields than the likes of the now outdated XX-9 heavy turbolaser".

 

[Hellbeast1]

Yeah so he's 6-B because the ships shields are 6-B

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Yes, but the ship's shield scales to "hundreds of heavy turbo laser shots" that upscale from the XX-9 heavy turbolaser which was calculated to be 111.67 gigatons. Low-balling "hundreds" is 200, the shields would be 22.334 teratons, which is why we rate them as Country level. And Palpatine destroyed hundreds of these 22.334 teraton durability shields.

 

[KLOL506]

How many hundreds are we talking about

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

You mean how many shots can the shields tank or how many shields Palpatine destroyed?

 

[KLOL506]

The number of shields Palpatine rekt

 

[Hellbeast1]

UNLIMITED

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

The number of shields Palpatine rekt

There were 16 000 ships, it was confirmed most have shields.

Even if we assume he just rekt 100 ships' shields it's already Continent level.

 

[KLOL506]

EDIT: NVM I ****** UP IN MATH

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I suggest At least 6-B Possibly Far Higher

If thats okay

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I agree, but again I want to try to conclude the Jango Fett and lightsaber stuff before the forum move.

EDIT: It might be fine to apply 6-B to Sidious, Yoda and Windu before we make that huge Star Wars CRT, cuz that seems relatively simple.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

bump

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Wait for the Novelization.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

What do you think about the Jango Fett and lightsaber stuff?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Read the Novelization, enjoy ited but Jesus do they keep butchering Rey's parentage.

Also Palpatine is amped by all the Sith in TROS

 

[ByAsura]

Marvelous, that could mean he only scales to Rey. What's the exact exert, by the way?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Excellent, can you quote that?

EDIT: Although was he amped by all the Sith throughout the whole movie, or just the final battle?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Also I heard someone said that Palpatine teleported his soul away when falling down the shaft, so we cannot scale his durability to the Death Star explosion.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Why would he be amped by all the Sith?

He's clearly crippled in ROS and he has all the Sith then

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

So he's only amped by all the Sith when he fought with Rey?

 

[Hellbeast1]

He's not amped by the Sith to my knowledge

He mentions needing the Dyad to be restored to what I assume is his previous power

We'd need scans from the book to see what we get tho

Can guarantee man gets hax tho

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Apparently Shadow says the novel says so

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Sorry busy at work atm

but page 223 for future reference in CRT.

"Unseen for Generations,' He crowed.and "And now the power of two restores the one true Emperor!" He raised his perfect, healed hands and called on all the dark power of the force and the Sith who had come before him and pulled their life from their very bodies.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Except that still doesn't mean he's amped

He draws on them to do the drain which is explicitly hax and he still mentions being restored to his prior power

 

[ByAsura]

I suppose that wouldn't necessarily mean he was amped from his usual level in Return of the Jedi.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I guess it probably means he was originally weak, but after taking the power then he's amped back to his original level.

 

[Agnaa]

Since I was told to comment about this here.

Imperial-class Star Destroyer's Country level durability is wild abuse of multiplier standards.

• Tanking hundreds of bullets doesn't mean your durability is equal to 200x the AP of the bullets. Characters can basically be immune to weaker attacks at far lower multipliers.
• By this logic, tanking 100 punches would make you 9-B.
• The multipliers page says that multipliers need to be explicit, this is nowhere near explicit enough for a multiplier.
• The multipliers page says that multipliers in the hundreds need to have either huge plot relevance or supporting feats, as far as I can tell, this multiplier has neither.

So its durability should be downgraded, along with any other Star Wars ships that scale or have similar multipliers.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

As I have discussed on Discord, that is a good point. The shields should be downgraded to High 6-C.

This potentially affects the Canon Palpatine upgrades and Legends Vader downgrades too.

 

[ByAsura]

I agree. Star Wars ships also have multiple sections of shielding (port, starboard and ster) which can be pierced with concentrated fire from vessels of similar firepower. Even an Executor took minimal damage from a Starhawk's weapons, which are roughtly comparable to Star Destroyers, before using extra power to account for it.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

So Canon Palpatine would be "At least High 6-C, likely far higher", while Legends Starkiller powering the cannon would be "6-C" since turbolasers are just a bit above baseline High 6-C and he charged the cannon over-time.

 

[ByAsura]

It should still be superior to what a Star Destroyer can normally output. It takes a lot to pierce their shields and this did it in one blow, completely tearing apart the ship.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

So High 6-C Starkiller it is ig.

 

[ByAsura]

Maybe we should discuss this in my message wall.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Ok. So things to conclude in this thread:

• Jango Fett upgrade to Relativistic
• The Lightsaber profile
• Downgrading ship shields to High 6-C
• Maybe upgrade Palpatine to High 6-C, although probably we should wait for another thread

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

There's a thread discussing whether multiplier for destroying multiple objects is allowed, so the Palpatine upgrades will have to wait.

 

[Eficiente]

I find this notion of Sidious always being as powerful as in the last movie to be ridiculous.

• He shows a feat way above anything shown before.
• The older a Force user becomes the more their knowledge, experience, etc. on the Force grows and the more powerful in it they become. While their regular physicality gets weaker.

He outright says "And now the power of two restores the one." when he absorbs Rey and Kylo's Lifeforce. He doesn't say "empowers the one."

The dude was like a zombie and that needed to be fixed, if he made himself more powerful or not then that's irrelevant, he was restored, he didn't lie. It is entirely possible for him to have gained further power after being revived and not being able to use it due to his deteriorated body, or he could use it & he just didn't show it. And by "entirely possible" I actually meant that's most likely the case as to claim that he was just always as powerful is a baseless assumption.

 

[Eficiente]

And that's without even talking about he was now "all the Sith", what is even the headcanon we have on that to fit this notion of him being always this powerful?

• A. That somehow doesn't make him more powerful than before. Or
• B. He was somehow always all the Sith. Or
• C. He's just exaggerating and being all the Sith is not a big deal.