Kamek Profile revision and more miscellaneous Mario Bros additions (Mario Kart stuff, Fodder gifted intelligence, Mario Party items, and others)

[koopa3144]

Hey its is me back with more Mario stuff.

Kamek Profile revision​

Old Profile
New Profile

Agree: @Armorchompy @LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Neutral:

General stuff​

Spoiler: General stuff

• Attack reflection (Tennis rackets and bats can reflect balls thrown at high speeds including balls transformed into energy and Fireballs) [All characters with rackets and bats]
• Weapon Mastery (Can skillfully use various sports equipment such as Tennis rackets and bats. they have also shown proficiency with swords, hammers, boomerangs. Can Make use of many different items such as shells and Bomb-ombs) [All characters that show up in sports games or Super Mario Party]
• For Paper characters: Elasticity and Body Control (can quickly recover from being crumpled) and Inorganic Physiology type 1

Agree: @JTGamer96 @DarkDragonMedeus @AStrangeverse @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E @Minion_of_Pigsaw @Armorchompy @LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Neutral:

Spoiler: Gifted intelligence

Boo's, Dry bones, Shy guy's, Hammer Bro's, and Koopa Troopa should have something like this for Intelligence:
Gifted (Has shown great proficiency in many sports and activities such as baseball, Strike, golf, and tennis. Can go head to head against the main cast in a multitude of Minigames, sports, and go-kart races)
What's said can vary a bit depending on the character and what games they were in but this is the gist of it. I'll also note that @Minion_of_Pigsaw as suggested a Varies rating due to them being a species composite.

Agree: @JTGamer96 @DarkDragonMedeus @AStrangeverse @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E @Armorchompy
Disagree: @Minion_of_Pigsaw
Neutral:

Mario Kart stuff​

Spoiler: Mario kart items

Any character who appears in Mario Kart should have the following abilities from Item boxes:

• Summoning via Item Box which can randomly summon any of these items
• Homing Attack via Red Shell and Explosion Manipulation via Spiny Shell
• Fire Manipulation via Fire flower
• Status Effect Inducement via Blooper
• Explosion Manipulation via Bob-omb
• Sound Manipulation via Super Horn
• Minor speed amplification via Dash Mushroom
• invisibility and intangibility via Boo
• Transformation via Bullet Bill
• Lightning manipulation, Size Manipulation, and Statistics Reduction via lightning bolts
• Shockwave Generation and Vibration Manipulation via POW Block
• Statistics Amplification via Starman and Size Manipulation via Mega Mushroom

Agree: @AStrangeverse @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E @Armorchompy
Disagree: @Lou_change (Disagrees with item box) @JTGamer96 (Same as Lou_change) @DarkDragonMedeus (Same as Lou_change) @Minion_of_Pigsaw (Same as Lou_change)
Neutral:

Spoiler: Vehicular Mastery expansion

Vehicular Mastery (Can expertly drive and pilot a multitude of Karts and Bikes. Can skillfully navigate across many different environments such as numerous Rainbow Roads.They're skilled enough to actively fend off other races while maneuvering around obstacles. Can perform mid-air acrobatic tricks while driving. Can race competently against a number of equally skilled racers such as Mario)

Agree: @JTGamer96 @DarkDragonMedeus @AStrangeverse @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E @Minion_of_Pigsaw @Armorchompy @LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Neutral:

Mario Party stuff​

Spoiler: Mario Party items

Orb's:
All characters playable in MP 5 6 and 7 should have the following with Orb's depending on what game they are in:

• Explosion manipulation via Bob-omb Orb
• Summoning via Bowser Capsule, Bullet Bill Orb, Flutter Orb, Goomba Orb, Hammer Bro Orb, Kamek Orb, Klepto Orb, Koopa Troopa Orb, Lakitu Orb, Mr. Blizzard Orb, Piranha Plant Orb, Podoboo Orb, Spiny Orb,Toady Orb, Ukiki Capsule, Thwomp Orb, Zap Orb, Spear Guy Orb, and Pink Boo Orb
• Limited teleportation via Warp Pipe Orb
• Inorganic Physiology Via Metal Mushroom Orb

Candy:
All playable characters in MP 8 should have the following abilities with candy:

• Transformation (Many Candies transform the user's body in many ways such as changing their lower body into a mini-tornado and springs or having their entire body shift into 8-bit versions of themselves, a ball, a Bullet Bill, or a stone head)
• vibration manipulation via Bowser Candy (When used character that uses it dons a costume of Bowser which can create shockwaves by ground pounding)
• Duplication and size Manipulation via Weeglee Candy (Allows the user to turn into three tiny versions of themselves that can steal random Candy from any players they pass)
• Flight via Vampire Candy (Allows the user to turn into a vampire-like version of themselves which can fly and steal coins from other players)
• Electricity manipulation Via Cashzap Candy (Surrounds the user in electricity which they use to blast an opponent with said electricity)
• Possibly resistance to Electricity manipulation (Completely unfazed while being surrounded by electricity after eating the Cashzap Candy)
• Aura via Duelo Candy
• Inorganic Physiology via Thwomp Candy (The user becomes a stone head on use)

Agree: @DarkDragonMedeus @JTGamer96 @AStrangeverse @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E @Armorchompy @LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Neutral: @Minion_of_Pigsaw

Other additions​

Spoiler: Koopa Troopa

• A variants tab with the following:
• Electricity manip via Electrokoopa shell (Blue Electrokoopa and Red Electrokoopa have electrified shells)
• Camouflage (Koopeleon's have the ability to change their colors to blend in with their surroundings, making them appear to be invisible)

• Koopa Troopa/Paratroopa P&A:
• Status Effect Inducement (A Dark Koopa's Dizzy Tornado and a Paratroopas shell shot can induce the dizzy status)
• Explosion manip via Bombshell (Bombshell Koopas explode after getting stomped on)
• Energy projection (?) (Paratroopas can transform a tennis ball into a ball of energy, Paratroopas can also do something similar with a basketball)
• Minor Air manipulation (Paratroopas can generate a tornado)
• Power nullification (The moves Winged Green Shell, Winged Yellow Shell, and Winged Red Shell can respectively nullify Fire, Dark, Wood, and light attribute damage for two turns)
• Optional Equipment: Koopatrol armor, Bombshell, Koopa Troopa Car, Cape Feather

Agree: @JTGamer96 @DarkDragonMedeus @AStrangeverse @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E @Armorchompy
Disagree:
Neutral:

Spoiler: Goomba

Optional Equipment: diving helmets, balloon, helmets, Innertube, Super Leaf
[*]Stat amp (Hyper Goombas can amp their POW from 2 to 6) [Paper Goombas only]

Agree: @JTGamer96 @DarkDragonMedeus @AStrangeverse @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E @Armorchompy @LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Neutral:

Spoiler: Koopaling stuff

• Possibly Regeneration (Mid-High; all Koopalings returned after exploding into nothing visible in Superstar Saga and in Paper Jam)
• Flight (AllKoopalingsflyawayaftertheirbattle in Super Mario Bros 3)
• Optimal equipment: Their Airships seen in New Super Mario Bros. U

Agree: @JTGamer96 @DarkDragonMedeus @AStrangeverse @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E @Armorchompy @LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Neutral:

Spoiler: Bowser Class Y LS

Bowser absorbing the Mini Stars has an accepted calculation of Large Planet level and Class Y. This would give Bower a Class Y LS with machines

Agree: @AStrangeverse @Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E @Minion_of_Pigsaw @Armorchompy
Disagree:
Neutral:

If there's anything I missed or needs to be changed feel free to tell me!

 

[Lou_change]

Summoning via Item Box which can randomly summon any of these items

disagree they never carry them and are used by breaking them

possibly all the powers of Bowser via Bowser Candy

no

Stat amp (Hyper Goombas can amp their POW from 2 to 6)

paper Mario split means we would need paper Goombas first I believe

Regeneration (Mid-High; all Koopalings returned after exploding into nothing visible in Superstar Saga and in Paper Jam)

Most bosses do this but we don't see them recover on screen or are told they recover themselves so it is a possibility at best

 

[AStrangeverse]

the Puzzle & Dragons stuff for the Koopas should just be power null instead of that alteration of the P&A. with its brief summary describing what it can nullify

 

[koopa3144]

disagree they never carry them and are used by breaking them

I'm 50% sure that items that a video game character randomly picks up would be considered optimal equipment.

no

Yeah I forgot I added that, I'll remove it rq.

the Puzzle & Dragons stuff for the Koopas should just be power null instead of that alteration of the P&A. with its brief summary describing what it can nullify

True, I'll change it to that rq.

 

[Lou_change]

I'm 50% sure that items that a video game character randomly picks up would be considered optimal equipment.

To clarify I disagree solely with the item box which to my understanding they break for the item inside

Yeah I forgot I added that, I'll remove it rq.

I believe one of the Bowser items turned you completely into Bowser but I might be wrong I'll check the Mario wiki

 

[Imaginym]

Man, I really wish someone would get the footage of the Metal Orb countering the orbs.
Each way a character stops the traps as a Metal Orb might be a worthwhile skill feat, at least for the Metal Forms.

Anyway, at the moment, I don't have many strong feelings on these proposals.

 

[Omnificence]

I slightly agree with what @Lou_change says, but everything else seems fine

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I'll checkpoint here for now.

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

is puzzle dragons canon?

 

[Lou_change]

is puzzle dragons canon?

I think the only games published by Nintendo that aren’t canon is Mario & Sonic because something probably and Mario + Rabbids because a word of god so we probably need to get new scaling for them at some point

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

and Mario + Rabbids because a word of god so we probably need to get new scaling for them at some point

Oof, so no Mario scaling for Rayman, what a bummer.

 

[AStrangeverse]

bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I slightly agree with what @Lou_change says, but everything else seems fine

Same for me.

 

[Omnificence]

Just wanted to let everyone know I made a new calculation here regarding lifting strength for Bowser. Maybe we can add it to his profile as well?

 

[koopa3144]

Just wanted to let everyone know I made a new calculation here regarding lifting strength for Bowser. Maybe we can add it to his profile as well?

I could add this to the CRT if you want me to.

 

[Omnificence]

I could add this to the CRT if you want me to.

That would be nice, thank you.

 

[koopa3144]

Spoiler: Bowser Class Y LS

Bowser absorbing the Mini Stars has an accepted calculation of Large Planet level and Class Y. This would give all who scale a Class Y LS

Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:

It has been added!

 

[AStrangeverse]

Just wanted to let everyone know I made a new calculation here regarding lifting strength for Bowser. Maybe we can add it to his profile as well?

God damn, Class Y?

Wasn't expecting that

 

[AStrangeverse]

I also agree with everything, forgot to mention

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

God damn, Class Y?

Wasn't expecting that

They were much higher then this actually, things are being updated that is all

I also agree with everything, forgot to mention

Same.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Hey everyone, so when I have the chance, I actually would want my share with some more stats here that irked me as well and it's already criminal enough that such were not added on their profile.

 

[AStrangeverse]

bump

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

bump

It will take me awhile though, apparently JT said you can lend a hand though?

 

[Omnificence]

It will take me awhile though, apparently JT said you can lend a hand though?

Well, I only said that because they seem to be more knowledgeable on the Super Mario Bros.

 

[Lou_change]

It will take me awhile though, apparently JT said you can lend a hand though?

Why not just bring it up here

 

[AStrangeverse]

It will take me awhile though, apparently JT said you can lend a hand though?

if I'm available, then I'd be open to

I just got some paper mario stuff to go over for Lou

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

if I'm available, then I'd be open to

I just got some paper mario stuff to go over for Lou

I might reply on your personal profile like I did with JT, but if you see my activity on this forum: I am plotting/organizing the stats.

 

[AStrangeverse]

I might reply on your personal profile like I did with JT, but if you see my activity on this forum: I am plotting/organizing the stats.

gotcha

 

[koopa3144]

Gonna note that I'm finishing up on Kamek's profile revision and I'm looking to add it to this CRT if it's not already concluded by the time I finish the profile revision.

 

[koopa3144]

Ok here's Kamek's profile. The only things left that I kind of want to do is expand on his Intelligence and find better TK examples. I'll hold off on adding Mario kart stuff because that's being contested.

 

[Lou_change]

I'll hold off on adding Mario kart stuff because that's being contested.

Literally just the item box

 

[koopa3144]

Literally just the item box

So your just opposed to the item box and not the other Mario Kart items?

 

[Lou_change]

Yes

 

[koopa3144]

Gotcha, I'll note that in OP.

 

[Omnificence]

So your just opposed to the item box and not the other Mario Kart items?

What happened to the Mario Kart profiles, anyway?

 

[koopa3144]

What happened to the Mario Kart profiles, anyway?

Mario Kart is canon to the Mario series so there wasn't a need for different profiles.

 

[Lou_change]

I mean we could make a kart profile

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

But why?

 

[Lou_change]

But why?

I don’t think we really need a reason beyond it being indexable

 

[Minion_of_Pigsaw]

• Kamek profile revision: Will look at and nitpick the hell out of later;
• General stuff: Agree wholly.
• Gifted intelligence: Since the characters are species, would give them Varies ratings.
• Mario Kart items: Have the same opinion as Lou_change.
• Vehicular Mastery expansion: Agree.
• Mario Party stuff: Stay neutral, since I don't really know much about Mario Party.
• Bowser Class Y LS: Agree.
• Everything else: See "Kamek profile revision" above.