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The problem is that there is nothing that indicates that is the Mire Squid species.
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MonsterVerse Upgrades (SPOILERS)
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How do we know this is a Mire Squid? Does it say in the comic? Btw, Godzilla is still said to be superior to Ghidorah on the profile which should be changed as Ghidorah was clearly winning in the Antarctica battle. He also was comparable to the powered up Godzilla in Boston.
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Yeah Ghidorah is definitely equal if not superior, the only time Godzilla had the upper hand was in the water ambush
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Which is because Godzilla is built for ocean combat and Ghidorah isn’t. In the land battles he was equal if not superior to Godzilla.
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The people who have Godzilla over Ghidorah are probably fans who can't stand their favourite Godzilla being below anyone 
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Question: did anyone here pay attention to Nathan Lind's description about the Hollow Earth?
An entire planet's worth of gravity pushed down on Kong and Apex's HEAVs and all of them survived. Kong was also strong enough to casually crush one of those HEAVs later on in the movie as well, before Godzilla vs. Kong Round 2.
An entire planet's worth of gravity pushed down on Kong and Apex's HEAVs and all of them survived. Kong was also strong enough to casually crush one of those HEAVs later on in the movie as well, before Godzilla vs. Kong Round 2.
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I do remember this description but I didn't know how to estimate this exactly.Question: did anyone here pay attention to Nathan Lind's description about the Hollow Earth?
An entire planet's worth of gravity pushed down on Kong and Apex's HEAVs and all of them survived. Kong was also strong enough to casually crush one of those HEAVs later on in the movie as well, before Godzilla vs. Kong Round 2.
Of course, that'd make Kong's crushing strength pretty insane...
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According to a friend of mine, you can try finding the GPE.
A few quick calcs done by said friend had the force that Kong withstood clock in at 714 petatons. Not that detailed yet, though, since he's yet to release the full ones.
Again, not extremely detailed, but it does give some framework for calcers here to work on. Admittedly, I'm not well-versed in the art of calcing, so he had to explain some stuff to me.
If anyone needs some official heights for Godzilla and Kong:
This should work nicely.
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Those are some pretty darn high results...
Btw, how does everyone feel about this image? Could it replace the current one for GvK Godzilla in the wiki?
Btw, how does everyone feel about this image? Could it replace the current one for GvK Godzilla in the wiki?
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Yes, but again, quick calcs. So not detailed yet and could use some ironing out.
That's up to the calcers here, though.
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So I was talking with a friend on Discord about the Ghidorah storm stuff. Its made from his wing beats and bio electricity that superheats the air according to the novel. I’ve seen people here bring up that Ghidorah physically does part of it to argue he scales but is his breath attack not the same bio electricity that causes the storm but in a directed energy attack? The same thing that only pushes Goji back?
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The GvK pic is a official render
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Actually, the novel mentions Ghidorah being scared of Godzilla in the Antarctic fight, and he was just capable of pushing him into the cliff, the latter returning after. Ghidorah ran away when he saw Godzilla again and was hit by the USS Argo Missiles.
Btw, the profile should mention that Godzilla beated Ghidorah, so that's why he was sealed in ice.
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Point is they are relative.
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Unrelated to the MonsterVerse, but we got yet another super powerful Kong on the wiki
(I was personally planning on adding King Klunk who survived being punched around the planet, even though he's just a parody of Kong)
(I was personally planning on adding King Klunk who survived being punched around the planet, even though he's just a parody of Kong)
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4-A Kong what dafuq
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I didn't see the unrelated to the MV section of the post, so I got terrified thinking it was a downgrade.
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Same here
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Oh! maybe I can't make the upgrades..... yeah my internet is crap.
Someone else can please help me to make the updates on GMK Godzilla, Mothra and Ghidorah?
Someone else can please help me to make the updates on GMK Godzilla, Mothra and Ghidorah?
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And it got deleted, f in the chat
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Shrugs Idk.
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The planet crushing thing is kind of bs because gravity doesn't crush you like underwater pressure and there isn't really such a thing as a "whole planet worth of gravity", that's just uh, normal gravity, which is why I said it was unclear.
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I would assume they mean planet crushing as in gravity so heavy it could crush a planet, or something equally devastating and absurd. Admittedly for it to be able to crush humans so easily it doesn't necessarily have to be that high.
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I kind of assumed it mean all of a planet's gravity concentrated onto whatever goes through the portal.
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The thing is though gravitational force depends on the mass of the planet and your mass. So in that context that's just normal gravity.
Also gravity doesn't crush you like water pressure, it is a force that attracts you, that's weird in and of itself.
Also gravity doesn't crush you like water pressure, it is a force that attracts you, that's weird in and of itself.
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This is kind of a matter of semantics, but I feel like the statement that Kong is "slightly weaker" than Godzilla is inaccurate. There seems to be a pretty sizeable gap between them. Like when Godzilla knocked Kong down with a single slap on the carrier after taking Kong's leaping punch just fine. And then there is the entire second half of the Hong Kong fight, where Godzilla ragdolls Kong around, dislocating his shoulder just by the force of swinging him around.
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Goji definitely seems a lot stronger. Also shouldn’t we at the very least give Goji more intelligence feats than just demonstrating strategy against the MUTOs. He recognised that there were humans on a sub as well as recognising one of the people from earlier (Mark Russel) which has been described as a “moment of understanding” by Michael Dougherty. Supposedly in Godzilla: Dominion he try’s to stop innocents being harmed in his battle with Scylla and he still remembers Mothra and Serizawa’s sacrifices for him. I think he also may in some way communicate with the titans in the book but this is more of a guess as I haven’t properly read it yet.
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I feel like Goji's intelligence is pretty downplaying it. He should get average imo
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Yeah he’s got way better feats even if they are still high animalistic.
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Wasn’t Kong still on drugs back then? Also the same hit where Kong just got back up and tossed Goji off the boat? We even see underwater that he is able to force back Goji until he gets wrapped up, something that only happens because he is trying to get back to the surface. Hong Kong fight just shows Kong and Goji scrapping in cqc with Kong dominating until his arm gets dislocated. Even Mecha supports them being near equals when the same attacks that floor Goji and treat him like a rag doll are shrugged off by Kong.
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They said they used a “light touch” on the sedatives. Also, getting more hits in doesnt mean kong is stronger, every time Godzilla hits kong he either goes flying or is knocked off his feet. Kong needed to jump off a building to knock Godzilla down. Godzilla ragdolls kong when he his him, Kong doesn’t do nearly as much with his hits, therefore Godzilla is stronger by a considerable margin.
And no, he never shrugged off blows from Mechagodzilla, he gets hit one time by Mechagodzilla, and it sends him flying much like when Godzilla hits him.
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More Godzilla fans underestimating Kong I see
Like I've said before, the two are equals in my eyes. Godzilla is naturally better underwater, though Kong was still putting up a decent fight there, surprisingly. He temporarily knocked out Godzilla with a headbutt and kicked the lizard in the face, knocking him away for a moment. Their battle in the city tells me either could've killed the other. I mean Godzilla had a pretty unfair advantage once Kong had his arm dislocated. They're equals, axe or no axe. The axe is only useful against the atomic breath, really. Godzilla was so spammy with it because he knew he could get dominated otherwise, and he did a few times.
Heck I dare say the writers didn't intend to make Godzilla as physically strong as Kong due to the former's smaller arms. Godzilla's strike was so effective because of his claws, those do wonders against apes and it's well known that animals such as leopards don't have a hard time going after chimps and gorillas (or even humans), those claws of theirs give them a huge advantage, and the same happened with Godzilla. That being said, both Godzilla and Kong reacted the same way towards each other's punches, after Godzilla hits Kong in the face you can see him immediately getting back up, HOWEVER, Kong's headbutt and dropkick against Godzilla took the Big G relatively longer to recover.
The fight with Mechagodzilla is a different story imo, since Kong and Godzilla were exhausted from beating the tar out of each other (though even if they had recovered I still think Mechagodzilla would've been hard to beat).
Like I've said before, the two are equals in my eyes. Godzilla is naturally better underwater, though Kong was still putting up a decent fight there, surprisingly. He temporarily knocked out Godzilla with a headbutt and kicked the lizard in the face, knocking him away for a moment. Their battle in the city tells me either could've killed the other. I mean Godzilla had a pretty unfair advantage once Kong had his arm dislocated. They're equals, axe or no axe. The axe is only useful against the atomic breath, really. Godzilla was so spammy with it because he knew he could get dominated otherwise, and he did a few times.
Heck I dare say the writers didn't intend to make Godzilla as physically strong as Kong due to the former's smaller arms. Godzilla's strike was so effective because of his claws, those do wonders against apes and it's well known that animals such as leopards don't have a hard time going after chimps and gorillas (or even humans), those claws of theirs give them a huge advantage, and the same happened with Godzilla. That being said, both Godzilla and Kong reacted the same way towards each other's punches, after Godzilla hits Kong in the face you can see him immediately getting back up, HOWEVER, Kong's headbutt and dropkick against Godzilla took the Big G relatively longer to recover.
The fight with Mechagodzilla is a different story imo, since Kong and Godzilla were exhausted from beating the tar out of each other (though even if they had recovered I still think Mechagodzilla would've been hard to beat).
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I’m literally just saying what I saw in the movie, which I watched 3 times already. There is no “underestimation”, we saw what happens in the movie, kong is weaker. Adam Wingard himself says Godzilla is stronger. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbr.com/godzilla-vs-kong-adam-wingard-interview/amp/More Godzilla fans underestimating Kong I see
Like I've said before, the two are equals in my eyes. Godzilla is naturally better underwater, though Kong was still putting up a decent fight there, surprisingly. He temporarily knocked out Godzilla with a headbutt and kicked the lizard in the face, knocking him away for a moment. Their battle in the city tells me either could've killed the other. I mean Godzilla had a pretty unfair advantage once Kong had his arm dislocated. They're equals, axe or no axe. The axe is only useful against the atomic breath, really. Godzilla was so spammy with it because he knew he could get dominated otherwise, and he did a few times.
Heck I dare say the writers didn't intend to make Godzilla as physically strong as Kong due to the former's smaller arms. Godzilla's strike was so effective because of his claws, those do wonders against apes and it's well known that animals such as leopards don't have a hard time going after chimps and gorillas (or even humans), those claws of theirs give them a huge advantage, and the same happened with Godzilla. That being said, both Godzilla and Kong reacted the same way towards each other's punches, after Godzilla hits Kong in the face you can see him immediately getting back up, HOWEVER, Kong's headbutt and dropkick against Godzilla took the Big G relatively longer to recover.
The fight with Mechagodzilla is a different story imo, since Kong and Godzilla were exhausted from beating the tar out of each other (though even if they had recovered I still think Mechagodzilla would've been hard to beat).
Also, it’s really strange that you consider the blows kong made to be “knockouts” that’s not what knockout means....
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I wouldn't recommend being the "I know better" kind of guy. I mean I've watched the action scenes in that movie damn near a dozen times already but I'm not saying I know better because of that.
I mean you greatly exaggerated much of what happens.
"This is kind of a matter of semantics, but I feel like the statement that Kong is "slightly weaker" than Godzilla is inaccurate. There seems to be a pretty sizeable gap between them. Like when Godzilla knocked Kong down with a single slap on the carrier after taking Kong's leaping punch just fine."
The Kong punch threw was shown as him being out of balance since they're on a tilting cruiser, given his fist falls all the way down into a jet. And it wasn't a leaping punch, you're either mistaking it for the punch in Hong Kong which does WAY more against Godzilla or you're deliberately exaggerating Kong's punch to make Godzilla sound tougher. And again, Godzilla kocked down Kong easier because of his claws which are more effective towards him, and this is shown later in the film.
"And then there is the entire second half of the Hong Kong fight, where Godzilla ragdolls Kong around, dislocating his shoulder just by the force of swinging him around."
Kong's arm gets dislocated by both being swung around and hitting the building, it was a combination of both. That was bad luck on Kong's part, but it doesn't show Godzilla's stronger necessarily because at that point moving around other kaiju isn't anything particularly impressive (and Kong likely weighs far less than Godzilla so throwing him is probably easily done by kaiju of Godzilla's stature), especially after Kong pushed those massive stone doors on Hollow Earth. Whenever Kong was smashing down on Godzilla or grabbing him by the neck and pushing him towards the other side of a street, that showed which one had an edge in terms of strength. I'm not gonna say it was a huge edge, like I said, the two are equals in terms of beating each other, but when it comes to physical strength I see Kong as being a little stronger. We do have Class G Titans thanks to Kong, after all.
Adam said he was stronger in the water, which, yeah, obviously.
Kong knocked out Godzilla with a headbutt and a dropkick, that is undeniable. Kong has the chance to swim up and remove his collar, you don't see Godzilla rising to the surface for like 10 seconds or more. When Kong beats up Godzilla in Hong Kong, his dropkick has Godzilla fall through a building and Kong has enough time to walk back, recover his axe and go towards Godzilla again. It's not a "knockout" as in the martial arts term, but simply in how someone can throw a punch and you're out temporarily.
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What Wingard said was That Godzilla was the stronger monster: “Godzilla just has a lot more special abilities, he's stronger and all those kinds of things.” Also just cos the reason we have Class G because of Kong doesn’t mean they are equal.
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