Miraculous Ladybug General Discussion 2

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Viperion's Lyre is ready

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

It looks alright.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Btw. There's a quick look of a new character of the incoming TV Movie.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

He/She reminds me of Frozer with their icy color and what appears to be a snowflake on their back. Is that an akumatized villain? They don't seem to wear any miraculous so they aren't a superhero / supervillain

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

It's similar, but the snowflakes are more stylish and are on different places.

Perhaps they are another superpowered individual, as of Miraculous Adventures confirms that there are multiple non-miraculous related heroes with superpowers. Perhaps this one's an antagonist to avoid having having Hawk Moth sending Akumas across New York with little to no reason at all or just a support character.

It also seems that Sparrow it's returning.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Didn't Sparrow appeared in the comics with the Trash Kraken? Either way it's great to see him coming back

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Yes. Perhaps this movie will be connected to the other heroes of Zagtoon's Quantic Universe to promote Pixie Girl, Ghostforce (Who are settled in New York as well) and Zak Storm. Like a hint to the concept of Zag Heroes.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Maybe. Though it's more a "one-hour special" (like what the christmas special was originally going to be) than a full movie

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Ladybug Miraculous is ready

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Some stuff about Miraculous profiles.

Instead of upscaling the abilities from other Miraculous user (referring to their identities), Just upscale it from the miraculous itself for the sake of avoiding confusion. Example:

Self-Sustenance (Type 2. Upscaling to Bunnyx, who spent over 5,000 years in a stone box) - > Self-Sustenance (Type 2. Upscaling to the Rabbit Miraculous, which allowed it's holder to spent over 5,000 years in a stone box)

Same with their other abilities.

Careful with the capital letters, also rate the speed of the Miraculous as "immobile" by it's own.

Remove the "Standard melee range" from the range, as it has nothing to do with the Miraculous but the holder.

In Weaknesses it should be noted that the transformation would go off if the Miraculous it's taken and the user can only use their special power once before reverting back into their civilian-selves if underage.

You also cropped the slideshow in the spoiler tabber.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I'll edit those. Also what do you mean by spoiler tabber?

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

The "Hide/show" in Notable Attacks/Techniques

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Is this better?

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Looks fine.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Thinking about it, I think that Timebreaker should have Type 1 Acausality, as her existence isn't threatened nor affected by changes in the past such as where her Akuma is located.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Yeah, that seems good. And Bunnyx should also get it because she can survive while her past literally changes in front of her eyes ( or at least limited Acausality for Bunnyx)

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

That was Miraculous Ladybug's doing going by WoG.

Anyways. I'll add the ability to TB.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Didn'f the Miraculous Ladybug just fixed the events? Bunnyx was also able to remain there long before Ladybug defeated Cat Blanc and used her Miraculous Ladybug (Even if she was slowly fading). Also she wasn't affected by Time Tagger destroying the past

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Thomas explained that the reason why Bunnyx could exist despite her timeline not being the original one was because of the Miraculous Ladybug. It honestly doesn't explains that much, but it makes more sense than a Bunnyx that should've never existed to begin with coming back in time and Miraculous Ladybug just happens to act in weird ways sometimes.

Timetagger just caused a mess that could've brought consequences overall, but none of them are directly a danger towards Alix's existence as a whole.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Remember when Style Queen used her teleport attacks to overwhelm Ladybug in Style Queen and how Ladybug got nearly blitzed?

If that's true, wouldn't Style Queen be just Massively Hypersonic+ with teleportation?

Miracle Queen would be the same, as she teleported the same way as Style Queen, only she scales to FTL

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

I guess it's reasonable.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So to change Style Queen's speed to "Massively Hypersonic+ with pseudo-teleportation", and Miracle Queen's speed to "FTL with pseudo-teleportation"

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Both at MHS+ works better, as Miracle Queen is scaling on Style Queen.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Ok

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Do you think this scene is calcable? If so, then it will give us a pretty good speed feat for the humans

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

• Red Line = Person = 79 px = 1.75 meters (average height)

• Green Line = Distance between banks = 1549 px = 34.3132911328 meters

Took 72 frames, so:

• 72/25 = 2.88 seconds

• 34.3132911328/2.88 = 11.9143371989 m/s or Peak Human

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Cool. Peak Human speeds for the humans. Also maybe send it to evaluations so that we can apply it

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

You can create a blog if you want and ask for evaluation - Being fussy, but I want my next blog post for a different thing.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Ok, but is it fine I use this calc of yours?

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Yeah. It's completely fine.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Just checked. Link the feat at the start.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Done. I posted it for evaluation

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

On another topic, Thomas has stated that movie, despite being canon, takes place in a different universe and pretty much implies that there's a multiverse in Miraculous

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So maybe movie Ladybug have her own profile. Also that would mean that Cat Blanc is at least 2-C at his highest, since Bunnyx could have traveled to the alternate universe even if the original universe is being destroyed. But she couldn't do it.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

There's also Manga Ladybug.

We don't know at which extend Bunnyx time travel abilities are limited or if they can only follow a single linear timeline. So until further explanation it's given, Chat Blanc's rating should remain as low 2-C

Alternative Timelines do seem to remain existing even after the reason of their existence was changed, as seen when Ladybug stops Chat Blanc from occurring but yet the Miraculous Ladybug doesn't merges the timelines but restores the damage done by Chat Blanc in his future; if this is true, Miraculous Ladybug's Universes beholds over 25000 different timelines given Aspik's action in Desperada. That would be without counting the changes that Timebreaker and Timetagger made before being defeated. But again, further explanation would be needed.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

If every second chance forms a new timeline, then these 25,000 timelines are ****** because Aspik failed this many times. Also Viperion failed a couple of times too.

But I doubt second chance create new timelines, since it basically just resets the time to the moment it was activated with each use. I see it more like as a glimpses of alternate history (like how things could have played out differently)

Isn't Manga Ladybug the same Ladybug as the main Ladybug? Or am I confusing it with comics Ladybug? (Like the comic with Majestia)

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Technically speaking, it's a no win situation in Aspik's case, as he still has the Black Cat Miraculous all along.

The second paragraph also applies to Chat Blanc's case, but his timeline still exists, or at least that what it seems. Anyways, this is relative.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Comics Ladybug and Manga Ladybug are different characters. Comic Ladybug is the same character in the main Canon series, Manga Ladybug it's yet to be aired.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Technically speaking, it's a no win situation in Aspik's case, as he still has the Black Cat Miraculous all along.
The second paragraph also applies to Chat Blanc's case, but his timeline still exists, or at least that what it seems. Anyways, this is relative.

I think we should wait to further confirmation until we come with multiverse theories, since it's pretty unclear even with Cat Blanc's case

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

That's why I said if.

Anyways, Concept art seems nice. And it seems that Stoneheart will appear once again but even bigger than before, The Mime also seems to be coming back.

I guess this is Scarlet Moth?