Minor Majora's Mask Downgrade

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Nothing too major but this calc is outdated and is to be replaced with this one.

This effects Majora and Fierce Deity Link accordingly from High 4-C to simply 4-C.

 

[KLOL506]

I think a wiki-wide CRT would be needed for this.

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah but either way agreed

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

Agreed.

 

[SilentLyfe]

Alright.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I think a wiki-wide CRT would be needed for this.

Agreed.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Looks good

 

[Dust_Collector]

Yeah looks good

Timing of this CRT is pretty nice since I was about to start adding Type 4 Immortality to Link as accepted in another CRT so both that and the tiering change can be done in one go for him

 

[Chariot190]

Small panic attack, but this is fine.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Agree with OP

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

wtf happened to tloz, i never saw the downgrades why are they tier 6 now

 

[KLOL506]

BTW, the new calc that I made should preferably be put into the Common Feats Page.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

wtf happened to tloz, i never saw the downgrades why are they tier 6 now

I really don't want to have to go to all those repeated processes, but calculation corrections are a big part. That and in ALttP, Ganon apparently wasn't actually physically amped by Complete Triforce and simply had it in the room behind him or some shit.

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

I really don't want to have to go to all those repeated processes, but calculation corrections are a big part. That and in ALttP, Ganon wasn't actually physically amped by Complete Triforce and simply had it in the room behind him or some shit.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Anyway since this is a super simple change and everyone here including some staff agree I can make the changes in a little bit.

wtf happened to tloz, i never saw the downgrades why are they tier 6 now

Death Battle making Link vs Cloud rematch is what happened and it made everyone wanna downgrade TLOZ (Only partially joking)

If it's any consolation Skyward Sword characters might get out of tier 6 and get a 4-C rating in the near future, or at least Demise might be 4-C via creation like that one dude from NNT. But yeah for the most part we either had inflated calcs because of weird map scaling or feats that didn't meet our requirements to count as legit (Vaati's 4-A rating as an example got yeeted since he didn't meet the standards for pocket dimension feats)

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, there admittedly are far too many double standards for and against using localized versions and Nintendo of Japan themselves even gave Nintendo of America permission to essentially canonize their version. The issue from Demise' feat had concerns against translations and what not.

 

[Dust_Collector]

The issue from Demise' feat had concerns against translations and what not.

Yeah the statement we used to use had translation concerns, but we found another statement made by Fi where she directly calls the realm a creation of Demise's magic, issue is that there's no footage of her saying it and of course there's always the possibility the original japanese text is Fi talking about, I dunno, milkshakes or something. I'm gonna look up speedruns for Skyward Sword and just follow along to get to Demise and find out how legit it is.

But this is all for a (possible) future CRT so I won't derail any further.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

So have the changes been made yet?

 

[Dust_Collector]

Oh right they're not done yet, I'll go ahead and make the changes rn

 

[Dust_Collector]

done

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Thank you for helping out, I suppose I can close the thread then.