Minor Haxs Additions for DMC

[Tanin_iver]

Sure but not enough to warramt a upgrade for demons as a whole cuz alot of demons also get washed or Something

I think some mid to high tiers may qualify for this.

 

[chosen]

I think some mid to high tiers may qualify for this.

I recomand to just say who qualifies in their owm profile, Gilver is more skilled than someone like Nightmare for sure so i don't think intelligence matters that much, hell kitty despite being a general Pretty much acts animalistic.

 

[Tanin_iver]

I recomand to just say who qualifies in their owm profile, Gilver is more skilled than someone like Nightmare for sure so i don't think intelligence matters that much, hell kitty despite being a general Pretty much acts animalistic.

That's kind of what I meant, to look for case by case and then apply the ones that do qualify.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I still intend to comment here... someday...hopefully

 

[Vietthai96]

Accelerated Development and Reactive Evolution Negations (At least Low-Godly, Types 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 and 9: Demons can nullify each other's evolutionary skills, as pointed out that the Demon World is a world of survival of the most stronger one, as show that Dante was stated that he will be killed by the Neo Generator if he don't run faster enough to reach his destination quickly, was going to be killed by the Key of Ardor if Dante did not run fast enough to save his own life and was only still alive by holding it because of his sheer force of will, was stated to be able to be killed by Sin Scythe a lower class of demon species and later by Nightmare, who was stated to become so powerful in their last encounter that he is able to kill Dante now. Nero was easily overpowered by Agnus and killed by a mere single stab in the stomach, which required Yamato to ressurect him

Huh??, what the hell, i'm confused

Explosion Manipulation: As mentioned by Dante, a Demon is 10 times more dangerous when he is in the brink of death, since he will seek destruction above anything else and will even explode himself to take his enemy down with him

This is just Self-Destruct

Analytical Prediction and Instinctive Reaction

This shit is too long, but anyway from what i can understand, just because you can fight toe to toe with someone have Analytical Prediction and Instinctive Action doesn't mean you too have those abilities, or else i gonna give everyone who fought Ultra Instinct Goku these abilities.....

Also iirc, isn't most of these things except already on Demon Physiology page???

 

[Mister6ame6]

Can just be dura , again.

Yeah, but with the context from vol 1 that changes, whitheout that, yeah, dura was the most safest option

Sure but not enough to warramt a upgrade for demons as a whole cuz alot of demons also get washed or Something

I mean more them 15 demons will scale to that, so is either very common in DMC verse that they have/or the skill to deal with institive reaction guys

So it shou go because of how much demons have that

 

[Mister6ame6]

Can just be dura , again.

Yeah, but with the context from vol 1 that changes, whitheout that, yeah, dura was the most safest option

Sure but not enough to warramt a upgrade for demons as a whole cuz alot of demons also get washed or Something

I mean more them 15 demons will scale to that, so is either very common in DMC verse that they have/or the skill to deal with institive reaction guys

I still intend to comment here... someday...hopefully

Nah your laziness won't alow that

Huh??, what the hell, i'm confused

Well, basically demons can kill eacth other, since they can adapt to their own attacks just like the Sparda boys can, they should have this ability

This is just Self-Destruct

Yeah, but still feat explosion haxs, so idk where is your point here

This shit is too long, but anyway from what i can understand, just because you can fight toe to toe with someone have Analytical Prediction and Instinctive Action doesn't mean you too have those abilities, or else i gonna give everyone who fought Ultra Instinct Goku these abilities.....

Like i'm said above, the amout of demons that will scale to that, should at least give them the skill to deal with institive reaction guys at least

Also iirc, isn't most of these things except already on Demon Physiology page???

Nah, i'm cheked thye are not there witrh the exception of the desire things from demons, but i'm decite to add here just to show how consitenty their RE is across the verse

 

[chosen]

I mean more them 15 demons will scale to that, so is either very common in DMC verse

Only 15 implies most of them don't have it

 

[Mister6ame6]

Only 15 implies most of them don't have it

Well, just like i'm said alot of demons will get that by demons that are able to tango with sparda descendants and by scaling to demons that fougth them

I'm indiferent if they get instintive reaction or the skill to deal with it, i'm won either way anyway

 

[VoidGoji]

Agree with everything except "Evolution negation" stuff. And a bit iffy on invulnerability

 

[chosen]

Hell Vanguard and eventually was also able to make him retreat from their fight, who was stated to be feared in the entire Demon World because of his combat prowess

Only some inhabits, unless You wanna 4a hell vanguard and pre dt dante ofc for being able to beat the so called feared by whole underworld

Nightmare is a brute even If we scale him to dante, matching him will only be via hax and raw power

https://devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare_(Familiar) nico says he can't even think for itself with it's only porpuse being destruction

we see him as a familiar just throw hits

And even the actual scans, it isn't saying Nightmares matches dante just that he tougher after coming from dream realm, can be 3 percent diffivulty to 7 percent diffivulty and stataments still stands

Torment scan seems to refer to the demons from dante mind, hence why the "the black dream therapy".

Third scan says he is ready to do it, via we don't know what, and This word can Just mean uh yk https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/be-ready-to-do

V scan ie clearly via strength as he gazzes Nightmare strength up "it was truly powerfull, out of all my cards he the strongest one",Order of the sword should be removed, cuz thy also have human knowdlege and teaching on their side, so they wouldn't be in demons explanation. Agreed they skilled tjo

Cleared this up cuz Tony is lazy

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

1. Seems fine

2. Exactly who? No one bar Mundus has survived a fight with any of them and evolved. Hell even the ones that survived didn't evolve. This is straight up false.

3. This is more like regen (which they already have). Power bestowal is fine tho.

Idk of weapons awakening powers count as power bestowal

Also Trish never healed Dante.

4. This is fine. The heat part is just for the angelos tho

5. Pretty sure they already have this, if not it should be added

6. Apparently this wiki doesn't grant invulnerability even if you have the textbook definition (the fallen for example).


7. I remember reading something that contradicts this but I can't find it. Neutral for now until I find them


8. This is already in the demon physiology page iirc

9. No to this, big fat no. Key of ardor isn't a demon, neo generator isn't a demon. Sin Scythe is an outlier and the nightmare thing has been debunked to hell and back in the numerous attempts you have made.

As for demons killing each other, that's not negation of anything as all demons have soul hax and low godly. Destroying their souls is enough and killing someone isn't negating their reactive evolution, after all how is one supposed to evolve if they are straight up killed.

Type 9 isn't even negated given it only works from demons projecting themselves to other dimensions FROM the demon world

10. Pretty sure this is something they have too. If anything just add it can also be done via possession.

If a person is possessed by a demon, he will completely lose his mind and is also required for the person to have a strong mind and body also soul to not get consumed by a demon if then wishes to uses their powers.

That is absolutely irrelevant for whatever you are trying to add. Hell it's actually a weakness.


11. This is fine, the scan is wrong tho. Should use page 72 and 73, specifically this:

He remembered fighting shadow-like demons who when
near death would become similarly frantic, only to explode when killed.
That’s what this creature was reminding Dante of - though
Dante wanted to take it out of its
misery, it was clear it was only going to die when it damn
well pleased to.


12. First part is fine. Should be noted they resurrect as demons tho.

Second part isn't resurrection (because the demon in question isn't coming back to life, rather creating a new Entity

13- Acausality (Type 1): Demons are unaffected by changes in the past and future, as show with the Demon World bringing back Phantom from the past to the present while his present version was not affected by the time paradoxes happening in DMC2 events.

13. There is a lot of stuff here that isn't necessary. Only the phantom stuff gives type 1, ignore the rest.


14. Another whole essay that amount to nothing.

No demon can keep up with them.

The analytical skills stuff is literally only for the Machiavelli Angels (demons made with the Sparda family battle data), it scales to no one but them

Beowulf being as strong as Dante isn't the same as being as skilled as Dante.

Hell Vanguard doesn't scale to yo Dante in any way, shape or form. It literally ran away the second it had a chance.

The Tony thing isn't skill, it literally says the demons are smarter and thus employ actual tactics, strategy and weapons to ambush Dante. Nothing about skills

Nero already has this because of his Sparda heritage, don't use him to justify all demons having this. In fact don't use any demon related to Sparda for this.

The nightmare shit has been DEBUNKED several times, when are you gonna stop with it?

Nightmare being able to fight Urizen isn't the same as being skilled.

Malphas got easily dispatched by Nero, hell her kit is all about hax and magic which Nero resists rendering the whole fight to ramming him with the chicken iirc. No to this either.

Once again you are trying to use the Sparda heirs to scale everyone, a big fat no.

15- Demons are stronger in their demonic forms compared to their human forms as mentioned by Lady.

This is not wrong. In their demonic forms they are at the peak of their power which is what lady says, in any case they nerf themselves by getting a human form. It should be a weakness.

 

[Mister6ame6]

Only some inhabits, unless You wanna 4a hell vanguard and pre dt dante ofc for being able to beat the so called feared by whole underworld

Hell Vanguard would still scale above Vol 1 Dante and the demons no?

Since he is feared in the Demon World for his skill in combat , he should at least scale to demons on that level (8-C rn)

Nightmare is a brute even If we scale him to dante, matching him will only be via hax and raw power

https://devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare_(Familiar) nico says he can't even think for itself with it's only porpuse being destruction

we see him as a familiar just throw hits

And even the actual scans, it isn't saying Nightmares matches dante just that he tougher after coming from dream realm, can be 3 percent diffivulty to 7 percent diffivulty and stataments still stands

Torment scan seems to refer to the demons from dante mind, hence why the "the black dream therapy".

Third scan says he is ready to do it, via we don't know what, and This word can Just mean uh yk https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/be-ready-to-do

V scan ie clearly via strength as he gazzes Nightmare strength up "it was truly powerfull, out of all my cards he the strongest one",Order of the sword should be removed, cuz thy also have human knowdlege and teaching on their side, so they wouldn't be in demons explanation. Agreed they skilled tjo

Cleared this up cuz Tony is lazy

Well, since this debate happened in discord about Nigthmare's skill

He will only scale to Dante and Urizen via raw power

1. Seems fine

2. Exactly who? No one bar Mundus has survived a fight with any of them and evolved. Hell even the ones that survived didn't evolve. This is straight up false.

Sparda vs Bolverk, Sparda vs Argosax, Sparda vs all the Demon Kings, Dante vs Pluto, Dante vs Nigthmare, Dante vs Bewoulf, Dante vs Arkham, Nero vs Agnus, Nero vs Credo, Nero vs Sanctus, etc

They all survive a figth with them, not to mention that as stated in DMC1 guidebook

They get stronger as they attack or get hit, which kinda help proves my point

3. This is more like regen (which they already have). Power bestowal is fine tho.

I mean they giving DE to other demons would count as healing no since his external source helping them heal back to peak

Idk of weapons awakening powers count as power bestowal

It does the last time i checked the page iirc

Also Trish never healed Dante.

Giving DE= Healing a Demon/Character

4. This is fine. The heat part is just for the angelos tho

They use the souls of multiple times of demons as their core, so nah it scale to demons in general

5. Pretty sure they already have this, if not it should be added

The last time i'm checked it was not there iirc

6. Apparently this wiki doesn't grant invulnerability even if you have the textbook definition (the fallen for example).

Really? That's sucks them, what is the "standart" for invunerability shenarigans them

7. I remember reading something that contradicts this but I can't find it. Neutral for now until I find them

Ok

8. This is already in the demon physiology page iirc

Nah i checked it was not there

9. No to this, big fat no. Key of ardor isn't a demon, neo generator isn't a demon. Sin Scythe is an outlier and the nightmare thing has been debunked to hell and back in the numerous attempts you have made.

I mean it was created by demons would that count?

The Nigthmare thing i never did in the past idk what you are talking about

As for demons killing each other, that's not negation of anything as all demons have soul hax and low godly. Destroying their souls is enough and killing someone isn't negating their reactive evolution, after all how is one supposed to evolve if they are straight up killed.

Type 9 isn't even negated given it only works from demons projecting themselves to other dimensions FROM the demon world

10. Pretty sure this is something they have too. If anything just add it can also be done via possession.



That is absolutely irrelevant for whatever you are trying to add. Hell it's actually a weakness.


11. This is fine, the scan is wrong tho. Should use page 72 and 73, specifically this:

He remembered fighting shadow-like demons who when
near death would become similarly frantic, only to explode when killed.
That’s what this creature was reminding Dante of - though
Dante wanted to take it out of its
misery, it was clear it was only going to die when it damn
well pleased to.


12. First part is fine. Should be noted they resurrect as demons tho.

Second part isn't resurrection (because the demon in question isn't coming back to life, rather creating a new Entity


13. There is a lot of stuff here that isn't necessary. Only the phantom stuff gives type 1, ignore the rest.


14. Another whole essay that amount to nothing.

No demon can keep up with them.

The analytical skills stuff is literally only for the Machiavelli Angels (demons made with the Sparda family battle data), it scales to no one but them

Beowulf being as strong as Dante isn't the same as being as skilled as Dante.

Hell Vanguard doesn't scale to yo Dante in any way, shape or form. It literally ran away the second it had a chance.

The Tony thing isn't skill, it literally says the demons are smarter and thus employ actual tactics, strategy and weapons to ambush Dante. Nothing about skills

Nero already has this because of his Sparda heritage, don't use him to justify all demons having this. In fact don't use any demon related to Sparda for this.

The nightmare shit has been DEBUNKED several times, when are you gonna stop with it?

Nightmare being able to fight Urizen isn't the same as being skilled.

Malphas got easily dispatched by Nero, hell her kit is all about hax and magic which Nero resists rendering the whole fight to ramming him with the chicken iirc. No to this either.

Once again you are trying to use the Sparda heirs to scale everyone, a big fat no.


This is not wrong. In their demonic forms they are at the peak of their power which is what lady says, in any case they nerf themselves by getting a human form. It should be a weakness.

Respond the rest later need to go back to irl shenarigans

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Sparda vs Bolverk, Sparda vs Argosax, Sparda vs all the Demon Kings, Dante vs Pluto, Dante vs Nigthmare, Dante vs Bewoulf, Dante vs Arkham, Nero vs Agnus, Nero vs Credo, Nero vs Sanctus, etc

They all survive a figth with them, not to mention that as stated in DMC1 guidebook

So... do you have any proof Bolverk evolved? Or that Argosaxevolvelved? or that anyone sparda fought evolved? Nightmare? Pluto? Beowulf? Dante never fought arkham, Agnus never evolved either nor credo, etc.

Do you have any proof they evolved at all?

Remember the crux of the argument here is not that they survived, is that you apparently want to give them the same abilities as the Sparda clan because they survived(?) and apparently evolved because of that.

They get stronger as they attack or get hit, which kinda help proves my pointThey get stronger as they attack or get hit, which kinda help proves my point

That's already in the demon physiology page as fear/pain/blood empowerment.

I mean they giving DE to other demons would count as healing no since his external source helping them heal back to peak

Well, after reading it all again you are right. The reasoning needs to change tho, you threw a lot of unrelated and useless stuff there.

It does the last time i checked the page iirc

If the page say so then fine

Giving DE= Healing a Demon/Character

Considering how DE works in general and the **** ton of dangerous effects it has I really doubt that. In any case it should be a limited thing as Malphas didn't permanently heal V nor Nightmare and the scan says absolutely nothing about Trish healing Dante.

They use the souls of multiple times of demons as their core, so nah it scale to demons in general

I disagree but let's see what the others think.

Really? That's sucks them, what is the "standart" for invunerability shenarigans them

Idk, ask the mods.

Nah i checked it was not there

Anyways, we need other "possession" scans. We have a lot of sources to go through and the description you made is bad so that needs to be fixed too.

I mean it was created by demons would that count?

The tower and the castle were both created by humans who worship evil. Also even if it was created by demons it wouldn't count as those artifacts are not demons.

The Nigthmare thing i never did in the past idk what you are talking about

we have like 4 threads of you trying to scale Nightmare to Dante using the same scan




please don't respond to the things I agreed with it just makes the post bigger

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

F*cking finally, you answered

 

[chosen]

Since he is feared in the Demon World for his skill in combat , he should at least scale to demons on that level (8-C rn)

Uh i was already planning tier 7 upgrades for blitz and in turn dante and gilver when This ans palito threads are done

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Uh i was already planning tier 7 upgrades for blitz

How?

 

[chosen]

How?

Storm creation sheningans

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

sheningans

Who is it?

 

[chosen]

Who is it?

Blitz creates a storm going by novel 4

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Blitz creates a storm going by novel 4

Are you sure this gives him combat level 7?

 

[chosen]

Are you sure this gives him combat level 7?

With how we scale dmc ues yes

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

With how we scale dmc ues yes

And why we scale like this?

 

[Mister6ame6]

So... do you have any proof Bolverk evolved? Or that Argosaxevolvelved? or that anyone sparda fought evolved? Nightmare? Pluto? Beowulf? Dante never fought arkham, Agnus never evolved either nor credo, etc.

Nigthmare is stated to got stronger on eacth encouter with Dante, same with the other Mundus's generals

You kinda forget that as stated in the scans that linked in the op that demons can adapt in bad situations all the time, that's cover the rest of unestated AD and RE shenarigans

Also "Dante never fouth Arkham"

DMC3: I joke to you Tony?

That's already in the demon physiology page as fear/pain/blood empowerment.

Yeah, but since we know that demons getting stronger count not only as physical growuth, but on haxs departamento, RE would makes more Sense, plus the amout of RE statetements should be there to avoind making this page more big them it is

And still more haxs come in the way when i'm being lazy

Well, after reading it all again you are right. The reasoning needs to change tho, you threw a lot of unrelated and useless stuff there.

Fair

Considering how DE works in general and the **** ton of dangerous effects it has I really doubt that. In any case it should be a limited thing as Malphas didn't permanently heal V nor Nightmare and the scan says absolutely nothing about Trish healing Dante.

Precius Tears guidebook says that if i'm not mistaken, plus i'm linked there iirc

Idk, ask the mods.

Not sure if this helps to prove more invul shenarigans that i'm found yesterday, but demons are stated to be stronger when they activate their own Devil Trigger stated, and can only be harmed by other oponent if a demon is on their own Devil Trigger state

Anyways, we need other "possession" scans. We have a lot of sources to go through and the description you made is bad so that needs to be fixed too.

Ok

The tower and the castle were both created by humans who worship evil. Also even if it was created by demons it wouldn't count as those artifacts are not demons.

Well, fair, but pretty sure DMC1 stating that the Demon World is survival of the most powerfull and capable would count towards demons killing eacth other no?

we have like 4 threads of you trying to scale Nightmare to Dante using the same scan

Which 4 thread actually? Plus would the facth that Urizen is comparable to Nelo Angelo since V's is stated that he have the heart but lacks the body wield the DSS count towards that

Afterwall, Griffon said if not losing his demon side, V would have been able to use the DSS on her fullest

please don't respond to the things I agreed with it just makes the post bigger

Fair, Sorry.

 

[Mister6ame6]

Uh i was already planning tier 7 upgrades for blitz and in turn dante and gilver when This ans palito threads are done

Darm, gonna have to wait on the "wait list" them

I was planning to try to upgrade DMC3 Dante and Vergil, DMC4 Nero, DMC5 Nero, DMC2 Lucia and BtN Lucia keys XD

 

[chosen]

And why we scale like this?

Uhhh i will have tk find ues but lets keep this for when i drop mine, thos yk echidna is 7b for same feat

Darm, gonna have to wait on the "wait list" them

I was planning to try to upgrade DMC3 Dante and Vergil, DMC4 Nero, DMC5 Nero, DMC2 Lucia and BtN Lucia keys XD

Check discord If You interseeted for hell vanguard. Say shat You had in store for them too

 

[Mister6ame6]

Royal Bump

 

[Mister6ame6]

Royal Bump p

 

[Theglassman12]

Tony basically summarized my thoughts, so everything he's ok with, put me in agree.

 

[Mister6ame6]

Well, in that case, everithing that Glass is accepted can be applied, and everithing that he did not agree, should not be applied them

I guess this thread is finished them

 

[GarrixianXD]

@Mister6ame6 Any explanation for this edit? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare_(Devil_May_Cry)?diff=8620959&oldid=8542303

You changed Nightmare’s speed to immeasurable, yet, I can’t find where it was proposed on your OP.

 

[Mister6ame6]

@Mister6ame6 Any explanation for this edit? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare_(Devil_May_Cry)?diff=8620959&oldid=8542303

You changed Nightmare’s speed to immeasurable, yet, I can’t find where it was proposed on your OP.

Its on the OP

I linked the this thread there if i'm not mistaken

 

[Deagonx]

Wait, what? Why is literally any of this being applied? Glass's agreement alone is not sufficient to apply this.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Its on the OP

I linked the this thread there if i'm not mistaken

That’s definitely not enough just for one staff to apply. And again, I reread your OP and saw absolutely nothing that says immeasurable speed.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Wait, what? Why is literally any of this being applied? Glass's agreement alone is not sufficient to apply this.

Minor and simple abilities proposed can be applied by one staff approval, but the mass majority of this CRT should be halted, yeah.

 

[Deagonx]

Minor and simple abilities proposed can be applied by one staff approval, but the mass majority of this CRT should be halted, yeah.

That guideline doesn't apply to "popular or widely recognized verses." DMC is such a verse.

 

[Deagonx]

1- Sealing: Demons are able to create seals to bind their victims in place.

This is probably fine for Sin Scythes/Scissors, if they have a profile, but this isn't significant enough evidence to say that all demons can just make barriers or seal things.

2- Accelerated Development (Skill, Battle, Intelligence, Physical and Abilities) and Reactive Evolution: (Demons can adapt to anything that doesn't kill them instantly, getting much more powerful, gaining new powers, abilities and resistances against corresponding threats in mere seconds, like when they are able to eventually keep up in power and skill after fighting Sparda and his descendants for longs period of time. Demons receive more demonic power if they hit their opponents or take damage[1], which allows them to improve their powers and abilities mid combat and also to easily adapt, evolve and heal from their injuries. If a demon lose or lacks a organ, they will evolve to have a way around that function and can adapt to the hazardous environment of the Demon World, as show that a lower tier demons like Nobody who is considered a failure by demons's standarts, including their own masters, was still able to adapt to survive on it. They are also able to survive, adapt, evolve and eventually heal from their injuries, after wistanding many attacks from Sparda and his descendants for longs period of time, which are able to develop the ability to negate and overcome their opponents's abilities to resist their attacks in middle of combat and even keep evolving even more further in combat if their opponents is still able to keep resisting and adapting to their attacks if necessary. Demons decide how their powers evolve. Demons are inherently tied to their desires, as is Demonic Power. This is seen in the Ascension Ceremony, where it’s outright stated their powers are related to their body and mind, which is why Credo is so powerful. The results were the manifestation of his resolve. Dante stated Credo’s Angelic Death was only possible because he imagined it that way. Demons evolves as a species-Based on their desires

The Reactive Evo feats are more like adaptation. I'm not seeing Accelerated Development out of this.

3- Power Bestowal and Healing: Despite majority of Devil Arms are made by Demons themselves. Demons are stil beings capable of becoming Devil Arms by either crushing them and gaining power over them or becoming friends with them and they can also give the user incredible power if they are strong enough to wield them without getting possessed by it in the process. Can even awaken others latent potential, as show with Rebellion, Yamato and Devil Sword Sparda awakening Dante's and Nero's sleeping demonic powers, and the Devil Breakers, who are able to amplify Nero's own latent demonic power. Giving demonic power also heal other demons, as show with Malphas's stones healing V, Nightmare can heal V and the others familiars and also Trish healing Dante

This is already on the Demon Physiology page.

4- Extrasensory Perception (Power Level Measurement and Magic Detection) and Enhanced Senses (Thermograpic Vision): Demons can sense the presence of demonic power and can figure out which power source of demonic power is stronger and Demons are able to track their prey via their heat/thermal temperatures.

Extrasensory Perception should be fine, but there's nothing suggesting all demons have thermal vision, just this knight.

5- Self-Sustenance (Type 1): Demons can live in the Mirror World, which is a place contamined by the Demon World, where it is impossible to breathe.

You've confused two different sentences about two different things. The mirror is the entrance to the Demon World. The part about not being able to breathe is just about that specific Demon's cave. In any case, the demon physiology page already has this.

6- Invulnerability: Demons are immune to every weapon made in the Human World, which in order to hurt and kill then. you need materials made in the Demon World to do that. and as pointed by Gilver to Dante when they clash with each others swords, their metals are made from materials from the Demon World, which will not bend by simple brute force alone

"Regular guns don't work on demons" is not invulnerability.

7- Regeneration Losing their demonic power won't kill or make then lose their regeneration's abilities.

This scan doesn't say anything like that.

8- Possession: Demons can either possess humans that want to use their powers if they are not strong enough to wield then without getting possessed and completely losing their minds in the process

They already have this.

9- Accelerated Development and Reactive Evolution Negations (At least Low-Godly, Types 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 and 9: Demons can nullify each other's evolutionary skills, as pointed out that the Demon World is a world of survival of the most stronger one, as show that Dante was stated that he will be killed by the Neo Generator if he don't run faster enough to reach his destination quickly, was going to be killed by the Key of Ardor if Dante did not run fast enough to save his own life and was only still alive by holding it because of his sheer force of will, was stated to be able to be killed by Sin Scythe a lower class of demon species and later by Nightmare, who was stated to become so powerful in their last encounter that he is able to kill Dante now. Nero was easily overpowered by Agnus and killed by a mere single stab in the stomach, which required Yamato to ressurect him

How is this negation in any way?

10- Empathic Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Madness Manipulation (Type 3) and Aura: Can also crush the souls of others by being on them presence. If a person is possessed by a demon, he will completely lose his mind and is also required for the person to have a strong mind and body also soul to not get consumed by a demon if then wishes to uses their powers.

They already have this.

11- Explosion Manipulation: As mentioned by Dante, a Demon is 10 times more dangerous when he is in the brink of death, since he will seek destruction above anything else and will even explode himself to take his enemy down with him

Most demons do not explode when near death, so this can't be made part of the demon physiology page.

12- Ressurection: Giving demonic power or turning people into demons can ressurect them. They can also materialize themselves when they die, once their rage and fury are mixed together to create the demons called Soul Eaters

This doesn't seem to be something the average demon can just do, so I'm not sure who this is being proposed for.

13- Acausality (Type 1): Demons are unaffected by changes in the past and future, as show with the Demon World bringing back Phamtom from the past to the present while his present version was not affected by the time paradoxes happening in DMC2 events. Demons are unaffected by stoppage of time by the Demon World and they are physically unaffected by the creation and continuous warping of closed off space-time loops on top of them.] They can also leave and enter the loop casually.

They already have Type 4 for this. Demons demonstrably do not have Type 1.

14- Analytical Prediction and Instinctive Reaction: They are able to fight and keep up with Sparda and his descendants, who are able to easily notice patterns in their opponents's style and can adapt to fight then accordingly along with also learning to react instinctively from upcoming treats as show when Dante was having a hard time against Beowulf, but was eventually able to make him retreat from their fight, or when Dante fought against Hell Vanguard and eventually was also able to make him retreat from their fight, who was stated to be feared in the entire Demon World because of his combat prowess] and also when Tony fought against the demons inside the hospital that were powerful and smart enought to keep up with him. Nero was able to grow strong and skilled enough to match Demon Form Credo as his equal in power and skills and eventually surpassed him while Credo's skills with swords were previously unmatched in the Order of the Sword, later fought against Demon Form Agnus and eventually defeated him in combat, who some time before their fight was able to easily hold Red Queen with just his fingers in his human form and eventually was able to fight against Sanctus in his human form, even when he was inside the Incomplete Savior controlling it and using him skillfully. Sealed Sparda was able to make a permanent scar on Bolverk's face, who was stated to be a rival to him after they fought in numerous time before and after Sparda betrayed Mundus, Mundus was stated to be a tough fight for Sparda 2000 years before DMC events. Argosax on his weakest form, was able to fought Sealed Sparda for some time before getting sealed away. Nightmare was able to match DMC1 in the past multiple times and get stronger on each encounter, even stated to be become so powerful in their last encounter that he is able to kill Dante now. Moreover, Nightmare was also able to match Urizen when he was born, who should be comparable to his Nelo Angelo Himself, since he should have all requirements necessary to wield the Devil Sword Sparda her fullest by being superior to his human half V, which was stated by Griffon to have the heart to use the Devil Sword Sparda just lack the body to use it and if he did not lost his half demon side, V would have been able to use it. Malphas was able to fight against Devil Breaker Nero and also Sparda and his descendents can fight each other to a standstill without being able to kill each other some times.

This is kind of a mess. Are we saying all demons have this just because they can fight Dante?

15- Demons are more stronger in their demons forms compared to their human forms as mentioned by Lady.

What is even being proposed?

 

[GarrixianXD]

DMC is such a verse.

I see. I haven’t been entirely caught with DMC lately. Didn’t knew it was heated to that point.

Anyways, I’ll be neutral for now.

 

[Deagonx]

Didn’t knew it was heated to that point

It's not about level of controversy, but level of recognition. This isn't an obscure LN verse, it's an AAA multimedia franchise with many profiles and pages on the wiki. It's both "popular" and "widely recognized."

 

[Random-Helper323]

This is probably fine for Sin Scythes/Scissors, if they have a profile, but this isn't significant enough evidence to say that all demons can just make barriers or seal things.

Sparda makes seals too, so it definitely exists in verse.

The Reactive Evo feats are more like adaptation. I'm not seeing Accelerated Development out of this.

Sparda descendants definitely have accelerated development. I'm not sure if the OP wants to apply it to all demons.

Extrasensory Perception should be fine, but there's nothing suggesting all demons have thermal vision, just this knight.

Extrasensory powers are definitely a common thing.

You've confused two different sentences about two different things. The mirror is the entrance to the Demon World. The part about not being able to breathe is just about that specific Demon's cave. In any case, the demon physiology page already has this.

The clarification of not needing to breathe does help clarify the self-sustenance though.

"Regular guns don't work on demons" is not invulnerability.

That comment shouldn't be there, but Gilver does state that damaging demonic materials requires "more than just force".

How is this negation in any way?

I said above that ripping through defenses doesn't mean negating them.

This doesn't seem to be something the average demon can just do, so I'm not sure who this is being proposed for.

It seems kind of like a haunting or lingering soul or something.

This is kind of a mess. Are we saying all demons have this just because they can fight Dante?

Hmm... Well certainly the Angelos have it, and the Sparda descendants. Considering Mundus created the Angelos he might logically have it too.

What is even being proposed?

I think 6ame is proposing a stat amp for Devil Trigger, since all demons can use it.