Minor Arceus Additions

[Soupywolf5]

So, in this thread it was agreed upon that Arceus has every ability in the verse, upscaling from various Pokémon. But the profile is still missing a few abilities. (There are probably others, but these are the ones I could think of)

Passive Probability Manipulation & Supernatural Luck (Upscaling from Victini)

Mid-High Regeneration (Upscaling from Cryogonal)

Absolute Zero (Sheer Cold)

Passive Fear Manipulation (Intimidate and upscaling from Mega Absol)

Mid-Godly Regeneration over time, & 4-D Petrification (Upscaling from Dark Matter)

Damage Transferal (Destiny Bond)

Another example of Power Mimicry (Upscaling from Marshadow)

Duplication & Afterimage Creation (Double Team)

Water Walking (Upscaling from all Water Pokémon in PMD as well as Suicune & Keldeo)

 

[Hasty12345]

Assuming no one has any issues with the CRT where Arceus up scales from every Pokémon, and Victini’s abilities are legit (which I’m most certain they are), I agree with the OP.

 

[theultimate5105]

I was thinking about making something like this earlier
I obviously agree
also he should get passive powernull from eternatus and various abilities
probably going to look through profiles for abilities he doesn't have right now
Absolute Zero(Sheer Cold), Passive Fear Manipulation (Intimidate) and Damage Transferal(Destiny Bond)
wait wouldn't he have https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Matter_(Pokémon) powers which are Abstract Existence (Type 2), (Mid-Godly Regen over time) and 4D Petrification

 

[NeoZex6399]

The original spirit should also have the Power Mimicry of pokémon like Marshadow, for example.

"It lurks in the shadows of others, copying their movements and powers. This Pokémon is craven and cowering."
"It slips into the shadows of others and mimics their powers and movements. As it improves, it becomes stronger than those it's imitating."

 

[theultimate5105]

The original spirit should also have the Power Mimicry of pokémon like Marshadow, for example.

"It lurks in the shadows of others, copying their movements and powers. This Pokémon is craven and cowering."
"It slips into the shadows of others and mimics their powers and movements. As it improves, it becomes stronger than those it's imitating."

it already has power mimicry

 

[NeoZex6399]

Oh right, well, one more reason.

 

[NeoZex6399]

Arceus should have Duplication and Afterimage Creation via Double Team.

(Double Team is shown that it can work as real duplication multiple times, both in the manga and the anime.)

And Water Walking too.

(All water type pokemon can walk above water in PMD, also scaling from pokémon such as Suicune and Keldeo.)

 

[NeoZex6399]

And Fear Manipulation from M-Absol.

 

[Psychomaster35]

I agree with this

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Obviously agreeing to this.

 

[NeoZex6399]

A few more abilities, scaling from pokemon like Alakazam and so on.

-Levitation
-Instintive Reaction
-Enhanced Senses
-Extrasensory Perception
-Accelerated Development
-Empowerment
-Dynamax
-Radiation Manipulation
-Reactive Power Level
-Transformation
-Pain Manipulation
-Genius Intelligence
-Photographic Memory
-Information Analysis
-Weather Manipulation
-Chi Manipulation
-Psychometry.

 

[Hasty12345]

could the OP add all the abilities to the top post so it's clear what will be added
?

 

[NeoZex6399]

Also about the Summoning ability, Arceus can also summon Unowns (kinda obvious)

 

[theultimate5105]

Also about the Summoning ability, Arceus can also summon Unowns (kinda obvious)

has that

 

[NeoZex6399]

Yes, I know, but its ability only says it can summon the CT, it doesn't mention the Unown.

 

[theultimate5105]

Yes, I know, but its ability only says it can summon the CT, it doesn't mention the Unown.

yeah I guess an additional justification makes sense then

 

[StrymULTRA]

Following but agreeing

 

[theultimate5105]

so far
-Passive Probability Manipulation & Supernatural Luck, upscaling from Victini
-Passive Fear Manipulation (Intimidate)
-Passive Powernull (Mold Breaker, Teravolt, Eternatus Powernull, etc)
-Damage Transferal(Destiny Bond)
-Absolute Zero (Sheer Cold)
-Mid-High Regeneration, upscaling from Cryogonal
-Abstract Existence (Type 2), Mid-Godly Regen over time upscaling from from Dark Matter
-Duplication and Afterimage Creation via Double Team.
-Water Walking (upscaling from water types like suicune and keldeo)
-Conceptual Creation (Type 2: Created the very concepts of Time, Space, Matter, Antimatter, Emotion, Knowledge and Willpower that shape the Pokémon World directly from its own being)
I am also trying to avoid redundant things

 

[The_Pink_God]

so far
-Passive Probability Manipulation & Supernatural Luck, upscaling from Victini
-Passive Fear Manipulation (Intimidate)
-Damage Transferal(Destiny Bond)
-Absolute Zero (Sheer Cold)
-Mid-High Regeneration, upscaling from Cryogonal
-Abstract Existence (Type 2), Mid-Godly Regen over time and 4D Petrification upscaling from from Dark Matter
-Duplication and Afterimage Creation via Double Team.
-Water Walking (upscaling from water types like suicune and keldeo)
I am also trying to avoid redundant things

Wait so Arceus would have both AE 1 and AE 2?

 

[theultimate5105]

Wait so Arceus would have both AE 1 and AE type 2

yes (his AE type 2 is useless on his True form key though because it is based off something he contains within himself)

 

[StrymULTRA]

Wait so Arceus would have both AE 1 and AE 2?

AE 2 is for the avatar ofc. True Form has it too but yeah is an useless ability for the latter which is applied just for information accuracy

 

[StrymULTRA]

Btw

• Why the Petrification is 4D?
• Power Mimicry and Power Absorption should be separated, the latter is upscaled from DM too

 

[NeoZex6399]

A few more abilities, scaling from pokemon like Alakazam and so on.

-Levitation
-Instintive Reaction
-Enhanced Senses
-Extrasensory Perception
-Accelerated Development
-Empowerment
-Dynamax
-Radiation Manipulation
-Reactive Power Level
-Transformation
-Pain Manipulation
-Genius Intelligence
-Photographic Memory
-Information Analysis
-Weather Manipulation
-Chi Manipulation
-Psychometry.

more abilities, OP

 

[Soupywolf5]

more abilities, OP

Pretty sure Genius intelligence would just be redundant since Arceus already has nigh-omniscience.

Also I'm in class right now, so I won't be able to add anything else for a few hours

 

[NeoZex6399]

ok.

 

[theultimate5105]

Btw

• Why the Petrification is 4D?

It effected Arceus

 

[StrymULTRA]

It effected Arceus

It affected the avatar which is 3D

 

[theultimate5105]

It affected the avatar which is 3D

effecting the Avatar is treated as 4D (IDK why it just has been)

 

[StrymULTRA]

effecting the Avatar is treated as 4D (IDK why it just has been)

Arceus profile was a mess that mixed Avatar and True Form. Avatar is 3D now and nuff else. At most is Petrification that bypasses 2-B/2-A durability.

Btw True Form should get this

Conceptual Creation (Type 2: Created the very concepts of Time, Space, Matter, Antimatter, Emotion, Knowledge and Willpower that shape the Pokémon World directly from its own being)

I’ve discarded it at start because I didn’t know how to type it.

 

[theultimate5105]

Btw True Form should get this

Conceptual Creation (Type 2: Created the very concepts of Time, Space, Matter, Antimatter, Emotion, Knowledge and Willpower that shape the Pokémon World directly from its own being)

I’ve discarded it at start because I didn’t know how to type it.

yep adding it to the list

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Why would the Avatars just be 3-D if they can exist in 4-D space?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Why would the Avatars just be 3-D if they can exist in 4-D space?

That's not proof of HDE here

 

[The_Pink_God]

Why would the Avatars just be 3-D if they can exist in 4-D space?

The real question is how this would even be 4-D

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

That's not proof of HDE here

And im failing to see how it isn't. You can enter higher dimensional space, thus your physical form would be relative to the dimensionality.

 

[StrymULTRA]

And im failing to see how it isn't. You can enter higher dimensional space, thus your physical form would be relative to the dimensionality.

This is not 2018 for one. Also, there are tons of characters here who exist in 4D+ stuff yet are still 3D, see DBH for an example.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Also, Distortion World is blatantly 4D yet 3D humans can exist in it, making Pokémon not an exception here.

 

[Delta333]

Why existing in higher dimension is enough for HDE?not only DBH but other characters like Alovenus doesn’t have HDE too although she can exist in higher D

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

This is not 2018 for one.

And this matters why?

Also, there are tons of characters here who exist in 4D+ stuff yet are still 3D, see DBH for an example.

And that makes literally no sense. Unless the higher dimension in question isn't superior to the lower ones, living within a higher dimensional space shouldn't make your physical self physically less dimensional than the space that...you naturally live in.

Humans are 3-D because we live in 3-D space. How is something that naturally lives in 4-D space not 4-D in terms of their physical form?

Also, Distortion World is blatantly 4D yet 3D humans can exist in it, making Pokémon not an exception here.

I'd argue that this is only because of Giratina selectively allowing them to enter it in the first place and not of natural means. Besides, Pokemon is a franchise where it's open to having everyday people (who, mind you, were once apart of Arceus/OS) have 4-D based stuff happen for them.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Keep in mind, im fine with the Avatars being 3-D and not necessarily saying they are 4-D outside their true forms. I just want an explanation for why, because right now im genuinely not understanding how a natural inhabitant of a higher D world is not physically the same dimensionality.

Entering one momentarily =/= not being higher D? I can buy that. But when naturally living there and still not being dimensionally relative to it? Thats where im lost.