Minecraft discussion thread

[Rayfire]

I will say that this is some much needed context for a scene in the teaser, cause it didn’t tell us much at all so we had no idea why Jason was making two buckets with a chain Jack black is lively as usual, so that’s a bonus point for acting quality at least. I kinda wish he called it a sword instead of a blade tho, idk why they did that

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

My fault for having eyes

 

[Imaginym]

Not quite indexing relevant, other than maybe theoretical behaviour documentation (Composite mob when?), but I thought this might be interesting to y'all.

 

[Alexander]

Not quite indexing relevant, other than maybe theoretical behaviour documentation (Composite mob when?), but I thought this might be interesting to y'all.

Coolness Level: Overload

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Note that the boat-drop glitch was fixed a few snapshots ago.

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bugs.mojang.com

 

[Rayfire]

Composite mob when?

We need this on joke battles, that’d be fun

 

[RigelBR7]

Ender Dragon possible universal upgrade

Add environmental destruction — possible 2-C to Ender dragon. His true name if uttered would destroy the overworld, the End and the nether at the same time. "Players already have names, after all, what about the Ender Dragon? Well, let's just say that truly speaking his name would unleash a...

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Can anyone comment and give their opinions on this review? What do you think?

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

This guy suggests that Steve should have Class Z and 6-B with a High 6-A boat ram.

 

[Alexander]

This guy suggests that Steve should have Class Z and 6-B with a High 6-A boat ram.

Mmmmm

 

[McFriesGuy075]

This guy suggests that Steve should have Class Z and 6-B with a High 6-A boat ram.

mega based

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

Would it be possible to scale Minecraft legends?

 

[DavidTPPM]

This guy suggests that Steve should have Class Z and 6-B with a High 6-A boat ram.

He seems to be using the "Steve carries gold blocks" arguments but with water buckets. Which doesn't work because blocks in their non placed form (such as in inventory or when dropped on ground) clearly don't have the same mass and behavior as when placed.

You could easily place 30 buckets of water on a single block of water and they wouldn't sink which makes absolutely no logical sense if they were to each weight the same as the water itself + the bucket.

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

He seems to be using the "Steve carries gold blocks" arguments but with water buckets. Which doesn't work because blocks in their non placed form (such as in inventory or when dropped on ground) clearly don't have the same mass and behavior as when placed.

You could easily place 30 buckets of water on a single block of water and they wouldn't sink which makes absolutely no logical sense if they were to each weight the same as the water itself + the bucket.

+ The inventory is possibly a hammerspace

 

[DavidTPPM]

+ The inventory is possibly a hammerspace

Weird he doesn't have it in his profile ngl

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

Weird he doesn't have it in his profile ngl

It's listed as dimensional storage I think

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

Would it be possible to scale Minecraft legends?

Anyway

 

[Alexander]

Why is the end poem not allowed?

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

Why is the end poem not allowed?

Because it's all metaphor so not scaling useable

 

[Alexander]

Because it's all metaphor so not scaling useable

But how is it being a metaphor invalidates the scaling?even the end poem tells you that it is a metaphor for dreams and people should Life their lives, but that does not translate to all the entities being non existent, the author never says they don't exists, he just talks about the meaning of all of that.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Hmm I wonder why is something that claims rock level Steve is outerversal not usable for scaling, that's a tough question

 

[Alexander]

Hmm I wonder why is something that claims rock level Steve is outerversal not usable for scaling, that's a tough question

maybe because the player can only be that level after he wakes up and reaches the highest level, he is not that level until the end.

 

[DavidTPPM]

maybe because the player can only be that level after he wakes up and reaches the highest level, he is not that level until the end.

The player never "wakes up" tho. You leave the end and continue your 1m³ wood rival life. Hell even in creative you're not some outerversal god

 

[Alexander]

The player never "wakes up" tho. You leave the end and continue your 1m³ wood rival life. Hell even in creative you're not some outerversal god

that is completely different, because at that point you just continue with the game, it is you continuing playing the game, is not rocket science.
because creative mode is not the player waken up from the dream, the player only reaches the "highest level"at the end.

 

[DavidTPPM]

that is completely different, because at that point you just continue with the game, it is you continuing playing the game, is not rocket science.

Yeah you after the end poem. So either it's metaphorical and never actually happens in the game or it's contradicted by the game.

because creative mode is not the player waken up from the dream, the player only reaches the "highest level"at the end.

And where in the game is that? To me that just looks like something that never actually happened in universe

 

[Alexander]

Yeah you after the end poem. So either it's metaphorical and never actually happens in the game or it's contradicted by the game.

or rather, you (the real person)can just still play the game even when the player wakes up? because well, after all, the story/dream ends when you wake up, what prevents you from dreaming again?

And where in the game is that? To me that just looks like something that never actually happened in universe

it happens in universe, every world you create is a dream, from the real player, and he wakes up when he completes the game/the dream.
is not hard to understand, and no, this does not mean that now all characters are below tier 11 because they don't exists, this just means that the player in its true self, is superior to everything else and he dreams those things.

 

[DavidTPPM]

or rather, you (the real person)can just still play the game even when the player wakes up? because well, after all, the story/dream ends when you wake up, what prevents you from dreaming again?

If you went back to sleep knowing it's a dream you'd just be a god in your own imaginary realm lol.

it happens in universe, every world you create is a dream, from the real player, and he wakes up when he completes the game/the dream.

Show me where the player wakes up

is not hard to understand, and no, this does not mean that now all characters are below tier 11 because they don't exists, this just means that the player in its true self, is superior to everything else and he dreams those things.

Yeah because the player is you, a real life human playing a game which to you is nothing but a game. Which is what the poem is about

 

[Alexander]

If you went back to sleep knowing it's a dream you'd just be a god in your own imaginary realm lol.

no, you will just still have created this "dream world"

Show me where the player wakes up

At the end?

Yeah because the player is you, a real life human playing a game which to you is nothing but a game. Which is what the poem is about

This is just a undertale situation where the player is a entity that exists and is playing the game, with even the game admiting that you exists and that you have reached the highest level and wake up from the dream worlds you have created.

 

[StarShooter80]

THIS... is a Crafting Table

By the way is anyone planning on reworking Steve/Alex's P&As section? It can use a small shakeup

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

Is Educational Edition usable? Steve can get some abilities from that

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

Is Educational Edition usable? Steve can get some abilities from that

There's nothing stopping it from being unusable

 

[IDK3465]

I just made a calc that could potentially upgrade Minecraft to Hypersonic

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

I just made a calc that could potentially upgrade Minecraft to Hypersonic

Flashlight Enderman speed calc got them to hypersonic+

 

[IDK3465]

Flashlight Enderman speed calc got them to hypersonic+

I don't think his calc was really correct, as it assumed the Enderman was physically moving out of the way rather than just teleporting, and you can't apply speed values to teleportation like that.

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

I don't think his calc was really correct, as it assumed the Enderman was physically moving out of the way rather than just teleporting, and you can't apply speed values to teleportation like that.

Fair enough

 

[IDK3465]

Ok, so you know how we currently base our explosion calcs on basalt? I was actually wondering if there were any blocks with a higher energy per blast resistance that we could potentially use to get a higher result, so I made this spreadsheet showing the ratio between pulverisation energy and blast resistance.
If we decide that stuff like glass and diamond is unreliable due to their brittleness, we can potentially use something like sandstone to upgrade the verse.

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

Ok, so you know how we currently base our explosion calcs on basalt? I was actually wondering if there were any blocks with a higher energy per blast resistance that we could potentially use to get a higher result, so I made this spreadsheet showing the ratio between pulverisation energy and blast resistance.
If we decide that stuff like glass and diamond is unreliable due to their brittleness, we can potentially use something like sandstone to upgrade the verse.

I would consider diamond in Minecraft to be stronger than Irl so I guess we can use diamond as well

 

[IDK3465]

I just made a calc that could potentially upgrade Minecraft to Hypersonic

Ok, so about this calc:

A similar speed upgrade based on this happened a while ago (albeit, without taking the sculk soundwaves into account) but was ultimately rejected due to being inconsistent, with Endermen getting easily hit by melee attacks and other mobs who would otherwise scale, being incapable of dodging arrows. But I mean... isn't this just game mechanics? If a character in a game dodged bullets in a cutscene or when using a certain ability, but could still be occasionally hit by stuff in-game, would that disqualify their feat? No, because the only reason they can't constantly dodge shit is because it wouldn't be fun from a gameplay perspective if said character could just ignore every attack thrown at them. Sonic taking a few minutes to complete a level, even though he can go at infinite speed, doesn't disqualify his infinite speed feats, as it's just to make the gameplay more fun rather than necessarily being true to lore. And don't try to tell me the Enderman feat is also "just game mechanics," it's literally something the designers intentionally put into the game as something the Endermen can do, with it even being referenced in other media (like the Mobestiary) as a canon part of their abilities. Also, just because gameplay-wise Endermen are faster than other mobs doesn't mean they are actually meant to be taken as faster than them the same way Mario is far stronger than a Goomba despite them being capable of killing Mario in-game. It's all just ******* GAME MECHANICS.

Anyway, Finepoint actually made a good argument as to how only Endermen would scale to this, due to them going into an enraged state, explaining why they don't dodge any physical attacks. But considering Steve can still attack Endermen outside of this enraged state and how it just wouldn't make sense imo for bosses to be slower, I'd say it's still fair to scale everyone to the Endermen.

 

[IDK3465]

Revised all the explosion calcs and added one for the durability of obsidian that got into TIER 7!?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]