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I'm guessing people forgot the context that the Golden Armor used on Mewtwo was incomplete and that Mewtwo was amped? Purple Eyes had only gained pieces of the armor if I remember correctly.
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Mewtwo's Mind Hax Resistance
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Except this feat is above almost all other haxes Mewtwo has shown. It being his only showing isn't an excuse; or else all verses with characters who only have a single, impressive feat that is also vastly above what anyone else has accomplished will also have to be upgraded.
This honestly mirrors people who want Anilaza and 17 to be Low 2-C by abusing our Tiering System, no offense.
This honestly mirrors people who want Anilaza and 17 to be Low 2-C by abusing our Tiering System, no offense.
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Ever heard of an outlier? If a character has 9 Subsonic feats and 1 MFTL+ feat, the MFTL+ feat is an outlier.
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Nope. It was complete by that point. And Mewtwo was amped by the Golden Armor being exerted on Mewtwo, so idk how that's an argument.SomebodyData said:
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Lucario (Pokémon 7).Kepekley23 said:
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That Lucario is also wanked.
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Yeah matt ya call that a contradiction.Matthew Schroeder said:
Oh which none exist here man.
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Wanted and just saying wanted without any evidence debating what had been listed is even worse man.Matthew Schroeder said:
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I also think we should stop cross-scaling the Pokémon mangas and animes. Each continuity has a different author with a different take on the series.
For example, Pokémon ReBurst has Pokémon-level humans with super strength and speed that blows everything else out of the water. And it's a´plot point.
For example, Pokémon ReBurst has Pokémon-level humans with super strength and speed that blows everything else out of the water. And it's a´plot point.
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Literally every feat of Mewtwo is of a scale infinitely lower than this. You are twisting the meaning of the word outlier until it doesn't exist.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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I mean, I bet I could pick up every page of the manga aside from the one where he punches Darkrai and I would find nothing that would put him above Tier 6, with scaling. Without scaling I'm going to bet nothing of Tier 7 even.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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@Cal Really? I don't remember him taking the equipment from Ed? I know he had the other parts from the three guys but don't remember Ed's parts being taken.
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Actually agree.Kepekley23 said:
Matt hax resistance only man. Happen all over and honestly plenty of characters on the wiki have one time hax enduring feats if which are easily accepted.
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He very much took Ed's parts.
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"Happens all over" is never a good excuse. Argue why it isn't an outlier for Mewtwo rather than bring up other people vaguelly and devoid of context. In the case of Mewtwo, it's an outlier. He has hundreds of other feats that aren't on this level, literally, given how many appearances he has.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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You don't seem to understand what an outlier is.Yobobojojo said:
A character who's best Mind Hax resistance other than this is what? Resisting mind hax that can affect an entire world's population? A city's? Less? Suddenly enduring Tier 2 mindhax is an outlier.
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@Cal ok, I'll trust you with that, but you sure? Pretty sure Ed had his pieces on. Also didn't Ed control Mewtwo without the rest of the equipment without issue?
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Show me the mind haxes he's faced. I doubt you'll find anything above 10,000 people at once, if that.Kaltias said:
That no more justifies scaling from the Golden Helmet than a guy casually busting doors justifies him being able to blow up Russia.
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This in't some random character resisting mind hax out of the blue. This is the explicit strongest Pokemon psychic rsisting a 4d object by a slight amount. It is in no way an outlier, or contradiction.
Strongest psychic is false. Mewtwo is weaker than Necrozma and the other tier 4s who have shown psychic abilities.
Ignoring that, Mewtwo's best mind hax feat other than that...is not even a feat. He connects with every Pokémon on the world with his Telepathy. This isn't even a resistance feat, by the way.
It's an outlier.
Strongest psychic is false. Mewtwo is weaker than Necrozma and the other tier 4s who have shown psychic abilities.
Ignoring that, Mewtwo's best mind hax feat other than that...is not even a feat. He connects with every Pokémon on the world with his Telepathy. This isn't even a resistance feat, by the way.
It's an outlier.
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Strawmaning and another word you don't seem to get. Being a reasonably decent 3D psychic doesn't excuse a 4D outlier.Yobobojojo said:
Where are these numerous Mind Hax Resistance feats that apparently exist?
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Keep Mewtwo at the time kinda was the most powerful hyped up no God Mon.
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We have no idea what happens before. Keep in mind that Mewtwo only resists the complete version temporarily. We actually see Mewtwo contained in the Sky Fortress, so we don't know how long it took him to break Mewtwo.SomebodyData said:
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Missed my point entirely. My point if a character is a door-buster and people want to scale him out of fighting a guy who gave a Continent buster difficulty, it's likely an outlier.Yobobojojo said:
Again, where are the feats?
I don't see anything that puts Mewtwo's supposed amazing Psychic Powers and Mind Hax resistance above a powerful Padawan or Gamma-level Psyker.
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All Might is the most powerful My Hero Academia character. Always said to be the strongest. Does this mean he can be Tier 2 in a stat?TheJ-ManRequiem said:
No.
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>Missed my point entirely. My point if a character is a door-buster and people want to scale him out of fighting a guy who gave a Continent buster difficulty, it's likely an outlier.
Again, where are the feats?
>Literally half of all jump scaling described.
Again, where are the feats?
>Literally half of all jump scaling described.
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Nice matt when did I say that?
Just correcting kep.
Just correcting kep.
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False Analogy. Said character likely does not have feats of doing so, while Mewtwo does.
It's not a false analogy. You missed the point of the analogy entirely.
Mewtwo has literally no Mind Manipulation feats extending beyond a few hundred Pokémon. What he has is planetary Telepathy which you can stretch to planetary mindwipe.
Generously assuming Mewtwo can resist his own hax, that'd literally be his best feat. And it's based on unfounded assumptions.
Now he suddenly resists 4-D hax that could affect the god-tier...and we're accepting it?
It's not a false analogy. You missed the point of the analogy entirely.
Mewtwo has literally no Mind Manipulation feats extending beyond a few hundred Pokémon. What he has is planetary Telepathy which you can stretch to planetary mindwipe.
Generously assuming Mewtwo can resist his own hax, that'd literally be his best feat. And it's based on unfounded assumptions.
Now he suddenly resists 4-D hax that could affect the god-tier...and we're accepting it?
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So no feats at all? Just circular scaling. The only psychic feat anyone brought up is telepathic communication with planetary range.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
That's terrible.
Again missed my point. It doesn't matter if they're casual, they nonetheless show the character's standard range of power and feats.Yobobojojo said:
Again, where are the feats. Mewtwo has literally nothing but hype and a single outlier.
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Again you misunderstand and try to twist what I mean.Kaltias said:
What I mean is that a guy who's every feat is Room level suddenly scaling from a Continent level character, and not even directly, is an outlier.
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Strongest psychic is false. Mewtwo is weaker than Necrozma and the other tier 4s who have shown psychic abilities.
>This was Gen 4 though, where Necrozma doesn't exist. You have Cresellia and that's it. Not to mention that Necrozma's not a stronger psychic. That's like saying Goku's a stronger psychic because he has power and has telekinesis. And there's no other tier 4 Pokémon but Necrozma.
>This was Gen 4 though, where Necrozma doesn't exist. You have Cresellia and that's it. Not to mention that Necrozma's not a stronger psychic. That's like saying Goku's a stronger psychic because he has power and has telekinesis. And there's no other tier 4 Pokémon but Necrozma.
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Man Howard do me a favor and quickly check if Mewtwo endured dark matter mindhax.
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