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Mewtwo's Mind Hax Resistance

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His mind hax resistance can be different from his own mind hax.

Although SD brought up a pretty good point
 
His mindhax is pretty shit. So why should his resistance be infinitely higher?

It's not a non-sequitur, it's the textbook definition of an outlier. Mewtwo is not a strong enough psychic for this to be accepted.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
I mean, these are the other Mewtwo feats I can find:
When he did all of this casually, is like saying Buu isn't tier 4 because he destroyed planets. (Completely random example, probably wrong but you got my point)
 
Kepekley23 said:
Stop confusing bluntness with condescension.
Bluntness would imply that we actually are wankers and/or liars, which I don't think has any actual merit to it.
 
I repeat use the Japonese version for the feats and abilities, not the crappy 4kids version unless we had 2-C feats to Anime Zorc, 3-A for Anime Kirby and High 4-C for Sonic X Super Sonic.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
His mindhax is pretty shit. So why should his resistance be infinitely higher?
It's not a non-sequitur, it's the textbook definition of an outlier. Mewtwo is not a strong enough psychic for this to be accepted.
Except there are tons of characters who do the same except with no mindhax of their own?
 
Hey everyone...how about we forget this whole outlier nonsense for one second and actually look at what SD posted? Otherwise this will go in circles.
 
Kaltias said:
His mind hax resistance can be different from his own mind hax.

Although SD brought up a pretty good point
SD did, but that would be a totally different point. If the feat is illegitimate, ya illegitimate because Mewtwo was told to banish from the start, not because it was an outlier.

That said, Purple Eyes very much wanted them dead, and gave orders to kill, saying that it'll be their last words and such.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
His mindhax is pretty shit. So why should his resistance be infinitely higher?

It's not a non-sequitur, it's the textbook definition of an outlier. Mewtwo is not a strong enough psychic for this to be accepted.
Man superman being a shitty reality warper must have shitty resistances then.
 
@Cal well yeah he wanted them dead, but he pretty explicitly stated that it banished them. Not to mention, last words could also mean they would have died in said dimension.
 
This is what Mewtwo's psychic feats look like if we make a graph:

MewtwoGraph
He has many low-level feats, a few vaguely impressive feats. And then the list of feats abruptly hit 0. And it stays 0 until it abruptly rises up again for one single Tier 2 feat.

This is the textbook definition of an outlier.
 
@Matt

Except we established those feats have no actual bearing on feats of a entirely different category and as such cannot contradict this feat.
 
Nobody has answered my objective math, my showing of feats, or shown feats for me.

You all just keep saying "Nothing contradicts it!", and when shown stuff that does you repeat it again and again.
 
The ability should remain, just change the reasoning with something else like he was not affected in the slightest by Alakazam psychic powers. That'it, no need to throw a storm.
 
Yobobojojo said:
@Matt
Except we established those feats have no actual bearing on feats of a entirely different category and as such cannot contradict this feat.
Yes they have. They are both feats of psychic power. And the many low-end feats show how good that is.

I.e, not at all.
 
Can we all drop the outlier discussion before we keep discussing it until the heat death of the universe?

Let's focus on whether or not the feat is actual resistance or not first
 
Dark649 said:
The ability should remain, just change the reasoning with something else. That'it, no need to throw a storm.
If this is his only feat of Resistance it will have to be removed, it wholly contradicts the scale of all his other feats.
 
@Matt

Non-sequitur again. You have not shown anything tht contradicts it as we established above, which has not yet been answered, so it still stands.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
This is what Mewtwo's psychic feats look like if we make a graph:
MewtwoGraph
He has many low-level feats, a few vaguely impressive feats. And then the list of feats abruptly hit 0. And it stays 0 until it abruptly rises up again for one single Tier 2 feat.

This is the textbook definition of an outlier.

If those were Mewtwo mind hax resistance feats, I'd agree with you. But they aren't, they're completely different feats
 
Bluntness would imply that we actually are wankers and/or liars, which I don't think has any actual merit to it.

Bluntness means we just transmit what we honestly think of the subject instead of shoehorning it with false sincerity.

Regardless, this conversation is derailing the thread.

Also, "just one feat" is an argument I've countered in the very beginning of the thread. Say Character A has one relatively powerful hax. He has shown a single 2-C feat with this hax. He never used it again. All of his other haxes, however, are only High 6-A in range, with a few 5-B instances from his best feats.

Why would we remotely assume the 2-C feat with that hax is consistent based on "it's his only feat with it", when NONE of his other abilities have shown anything comparable?
 
So while I'd love us to discuss whether this is an outlier until the eventual heat death of the universe, I literally have a million better things to do.

So how about we discuss SD's comment.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
So while I'd love us to discuss whether this is an outliers until the eventual heat death of the universe, I literally have a million better things to do.
So how about we discuss SD's comment.
^^^^^
 
Yobobojojo said:
Psychic Power =/= Psychic resistance.
Will you say this until the Heat Death of the universe? This fallacious argument has been responded already.

Bring something else already.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
So while I'd love us to discuss whether this is an outliers until the eventual heat death of the universe, I literally have a million better things to do.

So how about we discuss SD's comment.
Time has little meaning to me.-K╠Âa╠Âr╠Âs╠ Me.
 
Kepekley23 said:
Bluntness would imply that we actually are wankers and/or liars, which I don't think has any actual merit to it.
Bluntness means we just transmit what we honestly think of the subject instead of shoehorning it with false sincerity.
Fair enough. I will agree it should be droppped since continuation would imply we were actually guilty of such a thing, and I personally am not doing so, though I cannot speak for Call and the others.
 
So I asked Azzy to comment seeing as this is such a huge argument.. He said he doesn't have much to add aside from this.

"I don't have much opinion other than the fact that "very slight resistance" shouldn't automatically translate to Tier 2 mind control resistance if said tier 2 artifact still took over his mind."
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Yobobojojo said:
Psychic Power =/= Psychic resistance.
Will you say this until the Heat Death of the universe? This fallacious argument has been responded already.
Bring something else already.
Yet the response itself has been addressed as well, and the response to said response has not yet been addressed.
 
Again, when basically every feats you've brought up are either

a: Not related to his mind manip resistance

b: Were all done casually.

they aren't exactly rapresentative of Mewtwo's mind manip resistance.
 
Then I'll remove that bit of information from his profile. It's because it's not a feat. Not because it was an outlier.
 
Homura Akemi

Super false equivalence. Homura has other abilities that have been shown to b e at least comparable. She absorbed an infinite number of people, for example.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
"I don't have much opinion other than the fact that "very slight resistance" shouldn't automatically translate to Tier 2 mind control resistance if said tier 2 artifact still took over his mind."
This seems much more plausible. I agree with this unless there is a reason against it.
 
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