Still, as I see it this shows the meaning of the element can be different between versions since it's all based on slightly different interpretations/personifications of elements, so I dunno if Jack Frost can be equated to Elemental Race demons in this regard. Personally I'd only consider it acceptable if it could be proven that the concept of elements that Elementals personify include natural disasters- obviously that's just me though.
I’ll leave this to Ultima and tag him in, because I think he can explain it better than I can.
You’re right, and it sucks.
wasn't making an argument, calm down.
I'm fine with waiting- I only brought this up cause this CRT seems to be mostly uncontroversial and if any debate on more important subjects rises I'm willing to postpone this debate until then.
Huh, weird. Guess they do scale.
Not true. The Messiahs being resurrected are given an Observation boost, as proven as when you are asked by Stephen to combine both his and your Observation to recreate Kazuya’s existence.
Thanks.
huh, the more you know, well then that works
As said by Satan, that’s all the Covenant is - a hoodwink. The fact that you can even debase him is proof of that, bringing him down to the level of a Demon, no better than he people he debased years ago.
Not necessarily. If you look back at the fight, every member of the party actively takes turns debasing him.
and does this go away when they leave the diamond realm?
Yes, they return to their own (edited) stories, since they are all from a timeline where YHVH (and Lucifer) kills them.
As Milly said, his Covenant while increasing his power and making him the One True God still made him vulnerable to being debased by Humans, he simply hid his True Self in his Universe to keep his power.
P5 stands equal to that, Adam Kadmon=Stephen.
1-A. Above the Atziluth.
2-A, probably Low 1-C.
1-A, but we stay away from it, very problematic structure.
Dunno what you mean here.
Yeah it's more the alchemical element of earth as opposed to the representation of Earthquakes and other phenomenon.
Actually the elementals are indeed the embodiment of all of the elemental they represent. Each demon embodies an archetype of some sort that it derives power from in the archetypal world of Kadath. The archetypes are the conceptual foundation for all matter in the lower physical world, and thus the elementals would be representations of the archetype in the physical world. The archetypes are essentially platonic in nature and exist as the informational blue print for lower worlds to manifest the concept.
Contradictory statements, in the case of origins, are not so contradictory. The world of MT exists within an infinite amount of possibilities, and such, it can be alchemical and completely natural all at once.
Like White said, recurrent other statements deem Aeros the god of wind.
Yeah I think Ultima calced it in the small city range. I'm fine with using that for the low-level guys like that and early game peeps. But I also will hear what Ultima has to say about the other elementals.
All Humans have cognition. Only a selective few can actively utilize it. And yeah.
