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1. Medaka's Moon Level durability
Medaka currently has 8-B Durability even in her 5-C key, and that is let's say...weird. Considering how she has tanked several of her ow attacks that were reflected by Iihiko. Further more given how she was "the only one who could have destroyed the moon" that feat was done physically (otherwise Kumagawa would have done just fine too), so that just means more Newton's 3rd law. And to top it all off, she even stated she could survive the moon crashing down on earth (a low 5-B feat of durability btw) and she said "I alone" which obviously means skills are excluded otherwise as we said above Kumagawa or Gagamaru could have done the same. There is really no reason behind Medaka being 8-B in durability besides that one vague statement from hanten saying "i went to save her", but that doesn't even imply it was due to damage, it can mean virtually anything, like saving her from the vacuum (lack of oxygen), bring her back to earth so that she wouldn't be stuck in space etc. The statement is too vague to disprove the several attacks Medaka has took on and her statements too.
2. Iihiko passing the legend
I will go into absolute depths here so that we can get as close to the answer as we can. So, Iihiko is a legendary hero whose legend has been preserved by the Shiranui village due to their desire to preserve unusual things. They preserve the historical figure and pass down his legend for 5'000 years by creating doubles who can inherit his name or in other words take the place of "Iihiko the hero". However it's not exactly a "double" like the ones we're used to seeing in Medaka Box, it goes FAR beyond that copying everything about a character including the appareance, personality, physique etc (which is why even after "Iihiko the legend died" the body who was inheriting Iihiko's name looked exactly like the real Iihiko including appearance and even strength, due to the double tracing everything),furthermore it is not as simple as "possession", because instead the next Iihiko will appear whereas the previous "person" will cease to exist as proven by several statements. However Shiranui's way of creating perfect doubles to inherit the legend is not the only way to preserve the legend, it is just the easiest way. The same thing happens if you defeat Iihiko, the legend of Iihiko will go to the person who defeated him and basically turn him into the next Iihiko. Why this happens is because, by defeating Iihiko you become a more unusual existence, which makes you a target for his legend.
Now we know this is a thing, the problem is, what type of Possession is this? I am not sure myself, this is everything there is to know about Iihiko's legend. It is as i said described as being "inheriting the name" and "becoming the legend". And it basically rewrites someone into Iihiko.
3. Oudo's Death Manipulation
First let's explain Oudo's abnormality. His words are absolute, he can control others' actions just by speaking. This works by controling the electric signals the mind sends. It doesn't directly affect the mind but rather the body. When Zenkichi tried to stop his "romance", he was about to kill zenkichi, before the lil midget stepped in and talked some sense into Oudo, even stating that Oudo was about to say "die" before he was stopped. And no he did not mean physically as not long from that scene Zenkichi kicks Oudo off a building. Science approves. The mind sends signals to the body making the body go unconscious or even killing the body if it experiences extremem pain for example, which is 1 of the reasons why extreme torture leads to death that is not physically induced (because the amount of pain ends up killing the person rather than the physical damage). Oudo is capable of sending fake electrical signals to the body, it would scientifically be possible for Oudo to produce the same effect and is likely what he was going to kill Zenkichi with.
So a "Possibly Death Manip" should be fine.
Furthermore as proven, Oudo's abnormality is not word based, but thought based. He could control Zenkichi's body making him choke his own friend without anyone realizing without saying a single word. That should likely be indexed too.
Also he should have Body Puppetry for obvious reasons.
4. Intimidatio for Medaka and Oudo
This is fairly straight forward. Both have a form of intense presence that causes people to be scared of them (not mind manip, just intense presence which intimidates people).
Oudo
Medaka (only in war god mode)
5. All Fictio can be used on Space
Although not directly applicable in matches, given that this site is primarely an indexing site I believe it should be mentioned that Kumagawa can use all fiction to mess around with the space around him.
6. The thirteen party's Stealth Mastery
This is pretty minor, but on several occasions the thirteen party has been shown to be good at hiding/stealth.
7. Empathic Manipulation for Minus'
Misogi Kumagawa already has this, however this is a thing for all minus. This is due to their negativity, so while it's not on the level of Kumagawa, it still should be indexed.
Medaka currently has 8-B Durability even in her 5-C key, and that is let's say...weird. Considering how she has tanked several of her ow attacks that were reflected by Iihiko. Further more given how she was "the only one who could have destroyed the moon" that feat was done physically (otherwise Kumagawa would have done just fine too), so that just means more Newton's 3rd law. And to top it all off, she even stated she could survive the moon crashing down on earth (a low 5-B feat of durability btw) and she said "I alone" which obviously means skills are excluded otherwise as we said above Kumagawa or Gagamaru could have done the same. There is really no reason behind Medaka being 8-B in durability besides that one vague statement from hanten saying "i went to save her", but that doesn't even imply it was due to damage, it can mean virtually anything, like saving her from the vacuum (lack of oxygen), bring her back to earth so that she wouldn't be stuck in space etc. The statement is too vague to disprove the several attacks Medaka has took on and her statements too.
2. Iihiko passing the legend
I will go into absolute depths here so that we can get as close to the answer as we can. So, Iihiko is a legendary hero whose legend has been preserved by the Shiranui village due to their desire to preserve unusual things. They preserve the historical figure and pass down his legend for 5'000 years by creating doubles who can inherit his name or in other words take the place of "Iihiko the hero". However it's not exactly a "double" like the ones we're used to seeing in Medaka Box, it goes FAR beyond that copying everything about a character including the appareance, personality, physique etc (which is why even after "Iihiko the legend died" the body who was inheriting Iihiko's name looked exactly like the real Iihiko including appearance and even strength, due to the double tracing everything),furthermore it is not as simple as "possession", because instead the next Iihiko will appear whereas the previous "person" will cease to exist as proven by several statements. However Shiranui's way of creating perfect doubles to inherit the legend is not the only way to preserve the legend, it is just the easiest way. The same thing happens if you defeat Iihiko, the legend of Iihiko will go to the person who defeated him and basically turn him into the next Iihiko. Why this happens is because, by defeating Iihiko you become a more unusual existence, which makes you a target for his legend.
Now we know this is a thing, the problem is, what type of Possession is this? I am not sure myself, this is everything there is to know about Iihiko's legend. It is as i said described as being "inheriting the name" and "becoming the legend". And it basically rewrites someone into Iihiko.
3. Oudo's Death Manipulation
First let's explain Oudo's abnormality. His words are absolute, he can control others' actions just by speaking. This works by controling the electric signals the mind sends. It doesn't directly affect the mind but rather the body. When Zenkichi tried to stop his "romance", he was about to kill zenkichi, before the lil midget stepped in and talked some sense into Oudo, even stating that Oudo was about to say "die" before he was stopped. And no he did not mean physically as not long from that scene Zenkichi kicks Oudo off a building. Science approves. The mind sends signals to the body making the body go unconscious or even killing the body if it experiences extremem pain for example, which is 1 of the reasons why extreme torture leads to death that is not physically induced (because the amount of pain ends up killing the person rather than the physical damage). Oudo is capable of sending fake electrical signals to the body, it would scientifically be possible for Oudo to produce the same effect and is likely what he was going to kill Zenkichi with.
So a "Possibly Death Manip" should be fine.
Furthermore as proven, Oudo's abnormality is not word based, but thought based. He could control Zenkichi's body making him choke his own friend without anyone realizing without saying a single word. That should likely be indexed too.
Also he should have Body Puppetry for obvious reasons.
4. Intimidatio for Medaka and Oudo
This is fairly straight forward. Both have a form of intense presence that causes people to be scared of them (not mind manip, just intense presence which intimidates people).
Oudo
Medaka (only in war god mode)
5. All Fictio can be used on Space
Although not directly applicable in matches, given that this site is primarely an indexing site I believe it should be mentioned that Kumagawa can use all fiction to mess around with the space around him.
6. The thirteen party's Stealth Mastery
This is pretty minor, but on several occasions the thirteen party has been shown to be good at hiding/stealth.
7. Empathic Manipulation for Minus'
Misogi Kumagawa already has this, however this is a thing for all minus. This is due to their negativity, so while it's not on the level of Kumagawa, it still should be indexed.
