Mechikabura isn't merging with the Demon Realm, he's destroying... something.

[Dominodalek]

So in UM10, we learn what Mechikabura has been doing this whole time, and it's not merging with the Demon Realm. It turns out he had been syphoning power from Chronoa, which he used to create a "Chaos Ball" that he has now given to Dark Shenron to use.

It's unclear exactly how much he's planning to destroy - both he and Chronoa say that the Chaos Ball will destroy "this world", which unless Mechikabura is planning to obliterate the Demon Realm is unlikely to be the full scope - which is why I've taken some time to write this, but hopefully this is enough for the merging stuff to go.

 

[Elizhaa]

I am not not familiar with the current stage of storyline but if it is true, I agree his merging abilities which are Self-Sustenance (Type 3), Nigh-Omnipresence, Higher-Dimensional Existence (Became one with the Demon Realm) to be remove. I think we should get more supporters' inputs before trying to get changes made.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Is there more info to be checked or is this it? It could be safer to wait for more if it looks like there's stuff yet to be uncovered.

 

[Akreious]

So remove stuff with Merging with the Demon Realm in exchange for a small buff in AP? I'm fine with that.

 

[UrakaOmni]

It's all rather vague at the moment.

 

[DMB_1]

Seems ok.

Btw, even if because of this thread it won't matter anywyas, is the Demon Realm in DBH different from Universe 7's actual Demon Realm (you know, that werid cone at the bottum of the universe)? because if it isn't, that already would Higher-D Existence into question.

 

[Dominodalek]

They're supposed to be the same place.

 

[Elizhaa]

^^ It look like the demon realm is validly in the universe as it is part of the living world: https://imgur.com/EU9CDmY

So, Mechikabura would lose his merging abilities on this ground as he didn't fused the universe, too.

 

[Elizhaa]

A question is does the majority agree with the removal of his universe merging abilities?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Seems like everyone so far agrees.

 

[DMB_1]

They're supposed to be the same place.

Then it likely wouldn't be Higher Dimensional existence in the first place, as it was agreed that the realms of the macrocosm don't have a space-time of their own.

 

[Elizhaa]

^^

More ore less, I stated that so I agree.

 

[Elizhaa]

Since we largely agree on the removal of merged abilties which are Self-Sustenance (Type 3), Nigh-Omnipresence, Higher-Dimensional Existence, I contacted an able staff to see if the changes can be added.

 

[Akreious]

They're supposed to be the same place.

Then it likely wouldn't be Higher Dimensional existence in the first place, as it was agreed that the realms of the macrocosm don't have a space-time of their own.

Actually I'd like to contest this. Reminder that in Heroes, Xeno Goku was barred from using SSJ4 because there would be untold effects on the Timeline whereas in the Demon Realm, he was allowed because it was a space without it. Now this the 2nd form of Timeless Void but this immediately differentiates it from the regular Macrocosm of the Dragon Ball Universe.

 

[Dominodalek]

They're supposed to be the same place.

Then it likely wouldn't be Higher Dimensional existence in the first place, as it was agreed that the realms of the macrocosm don't have a space-time of their own.

Actually I'd like to contest this. Reminder that in Heroes, Xeno Goku was barred from using SSJ4 because there would be untold effects on the Timeline whereas in the Demon Realm, he was allowed because it was a space without it. Now this the 2nd form of Timeless Void but this immediately differentiates it from the regular Macrocosm of the Dragon Ball Universe.

If we're using that then I suppose. It's a odd statement though, because it's never really brought up again - Xeno Gogeta and Gohan later go Super Saiyan 4 without "untold effects on the Timeline", and Goku of course spends almost all of his time on the Prison Planet in the form. It's also only canon to the manga - the game has no equivalent statement, Goku just uses the form whenever he needs to with no fanfare.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this seems to make sense, but you should ask other staff members listed in the Dragon Ball verse page as well.

 

[Elizhaa]

Okay, I asked Crabwhale on the matter.

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks.

 

[Crabwhale]

Uh well

I agree, seems largely logical to me, but like, I'm not knowledgeable on DB Heroes. Like, at all.

 

[Antvasima]

@Crabwhale

Okay. Thanks anyway.

@Elizhaa

Feel free to ask other staff listed here: Dragon Ball

 

[Elizhaa]

From what I have seen in Dragon Ball Heroes thread, a lot of staff supporters claim to not know much about the series.

I will try ask though.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Not knowledgeable on Dragon Ball Heroes, but the stuff Elizhaa said makes sense.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Elizhaa]

Are the inputs enough to get the changes applied, Antvasima?

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose so, in lack of better options.

 

[Elizhaa]

Ok, since I can now. I will make the update.

 

[Elizhaa]

I made the changes. So, since the changes were made, I think the thread can be closed now.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will handle it.