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The destruction seems to have killed Hela and you don't need to destroy something to shake it
Might be worth calcing but I doubt it's higher then Tier 7
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MCU Tier 6 Upgrades?
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Might be worth calcing but I doubt it's higher then Tier 7
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Anything Magnitude 5 and lower and it's not even getting into Tier 7. I doubt Thor was shaking it that hard.
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I get that but he was doing it with literal zero effort. Also both hulk and Hela could somewhat harm Surtur, Which would scale to Thor as well.
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Hulk only staggered Surtur, he doesn’t do any actual harm
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I think you missed the part where Surtur stabbed Hela with a giant sword.
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He caused visible damage to his crown before he was thrown off, even if it's barely hurting a character it still scales.
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I haven't watched the movie for a long time now but the only thing I remember was Surtur being briefly staggered before taking Hulk and throwing him away like a mosquitoe
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Also here's Hela vs Surtur as well
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Hela did harm him but it really barely stopped him
As for Hulk, the crown took some minor damages but that's it, it was really the force of the impact that affected him but it didn't damage him
As for Hulk, the crown took some minor damages but that's it, it was really the force of the impact that affected him but it didn't damage him
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Yeah, but Thor just got done fighting with Hela and while he didn't win he did still manage to match her for a time.
So it would be something like Surtur>Hela>=Thor
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Yep pretty much (Hela was still overall superior but he did put a better fight)
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So do you agree they should scale?
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Hela should be noted as superior though but aside from that, I'm kind of ok with it
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Its already been calced at 6-B
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...inosaurFan/Recalc_of_Surtur_destroying_Asgard
So we have our 6-B scaling, and before you say he died Surtur's entire being is tied to asgard so it makes since he would die once it no longer exists
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...inosaurFan/Recalc_of_Surtur_destroying_Asgard
So we have our 6-B scaling, and before you say he died Surtur's entire being is tied to asgard so it makes since he would die once it no longer exists
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Plus the fact Asgard is tiny, only around 15 kilometers or something.
And, the shaking was not that strong
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Surtur destabilized the core which caused a chain reaction, that is not 6-B
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What? What type of headcannon bullshit is that, all thats said is that he buried his sword into asguard, nothing about destabilizing a core. Stop trying to downplay.
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The sword strike that caused the kaboom?
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Also Surtur has no reason to scale to 6-B anyway because it killed him. Right now it's a cap for the MCU peeps minus the Eternals.
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Btw which tier Ikaris feat again?
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6-C (41 Gigatons)
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Okay, that mean the best solution is downscale the top tiers MCU to Ikaris feat, correct?
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The question is, is the different method valid?
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Idk, but this is their explanation for using it
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Yeah no, I'm not buying that Quora link the moment they say "VSBattles is doing cloud calcs wrong", this is just a repeat of that dreaded CharacterRant thread by LordXcano. I'd suggest we take a crack at the feat ourselves, PROPERLY AT THAT.
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From what I understand, shouldn't only Captain Marvel in Binary form scale to it?
Binary Form Carol is stated to be comparable to Thena, who is comparable to Ikaris iirc.
The likes of Thanos did Jack shit to Binary Form Carol. So they still stay at baseline.
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In other words, only Binary Form Captain Marvel gets an upgrade.
Also this should mean Binary Form Captain Marvel characters and this who react to her could get Relativistic speed. Thanos was able to surprise and hit Carol with the power stone before she could react. And plenty of characters scale to Thanos.
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He did still tank her attacks point-blank and shook them off
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Thanos headbutt Binary form Captain Marvel and it did nothing and was overpowered easily afterwards. He shouldn't scale,
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I kinda get that part, but Thanos took her attacks as well
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Carol was brighter than before.
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Also was the abilisk storm scaling rejected? And if yes, why so?
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I dread this sooo much, waiting on MoM to potentially break this cap along with Love and Thunder so this man's expectations can be surpassed
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