Mcu surtur Upgrade

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Surtur dying to asgard explosion shouldn’t be the cap for him and other characters. For one fate ultimately decides when sutur kicks the bucket, implying his life was meant to end at the end of ragnarok



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And while one could argue that he was only meant to destroy asgard and him dying was due to his own lack of power. That probably isn’t the case due to hela considering his eternal flame greater then the likes of the bifrost and tesseract



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Even going as far as to call a piece of it “true power”. This is given even more weight when considering she has knowledge on Odin’s weapon vault. And surtur is described as a world crushing demon. And the destruction of asgard was on a Plantery scale

So I believe Surtur should have similar like Hela and Odin. At least High 6-A, likely 5-B

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

That probably isn’t the case due to hela considering his eternal flame greater then the likes of the bifrost and tesseract


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Even going as far as to call a piece of it “true power”.

So I believe Surtur should have similar like Hela and Odin. At least High 6-A, likely 5-B

While this does make sense to me, I'll wait for staff input about the cap since that's still an issue since I'm still unsure about it

 

[Excellence616]

Same as Marvel_Champion

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Bump

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Hela statement holds weight, though I wish we had a little more evidence before making a jump this high

Not that I disagree mind you

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Hela statement holds weight, though I wish we had a little more evidence before making a jump this high

Not that I disagree mind you

I do to but for whatever reason the mcu gives surtur very little in terms of anything

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

If it helps at all, the Marvel Website confirms that Hela is knowledgeable enough to determine that the Eternal Flame and Tesseract (to a somewhat lesser extent) are worthy (unlike the Casket of Ancient Winters, which she deemed to be weak)

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Then I do think I'm we have an opportunity upgrade to at least High 6-A

If that the case then this would also upgrade any Thor level characters to High 6-A as well which would be super based

Also maybe now we can get that Captain Marvel moon moving feat accepted

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Then I do think I'm we have an opportunity upgrade to at least High 6-A

If that the case then this would also upgrade any Thor level characters to High 6-A as well which would be super based

Also maybe now we can get that Captain Marvel moon moving feat accepted

This can be discussed later

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

If it helps at all, the Marvel Website confirms that Hela is knowledgeable enough to determine that the Eternal Flame and Tesseract (to a somewhat lesser extent) are worthy (unlike the Casket of Ancient Winters, which she deemed to be weak)

Ya I’ll throw this in

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Then I do think I'm we have an opportunity upgrade to at least High 6-A

If that the case then this would also upgrade any Thor level characters to High 6-A as well which would be super based

Also maybe now we can get that Captain Marvel moon moving feat accepted

If this gets accepted, I'm making a CRT for 5-C Base Mjolnir/Stormbreaker

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Once this gets accepted, I'm making a CRT for 5-C Base Mjolnir/Stormbreaker

Wouldn't that would make Hela 5-C as well though?

Which makes sense considering Thanos could withstand the power surge of the power stone which we know contains moon level energies

 

[RoTt35]

I'm fine with upgrading Hela, Surtur, etc. to High 6-B+ based on the former considering the Casket of Ancient Winters as weak plus the statement about her having knowledge of the Vault, but I'm neutral on the rest at the moment until further input

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

If this gets accepted, I'm making a CRT for 5-C Base Mjolnir/Stormbreaker

Wouldn't that would make Hela 5-C as well though?

Which makes sense considering Thanos could withstand the power surge of the power stone which we know contains moon level energies

3-c L&T Thor

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Wouldn't that would make Hela 5-C as well though?

Which makes sense considering Thanos could withstand the power surge of the power stone which we know contains moon level energies

5-C Pre-Awakening Thor onwards

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

5-C Pre-Awakening Thor onwards

How good can you cook?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Bump

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Surtur is also described as a world-crushing demon

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Surtur is also described as a world-crushing demon

Source?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Source?

Marvel Website

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Bump

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Surtur is also described as a world-crushing demon

So high 6-A. Likely 5-B?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

So high 6-A. Likely 5-B?

Needs more input

 

[Oscar]

Not if this helps, but apparently the destruction of Asgard was on a planetary scale according to the Loki series

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Not if this helps, but apparently the destruction of Asgard was on a planetary scale according to the Loki series

Hmm, maybe. Asgard is considered a planet despite it’s shape and size for what reason

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

So high 6-A. Likely 5-B?

Probably something like this:

At least Multi-Continent level, likely Planet level (Restored to his full might due to his crown being reunited with the Eternal Flame, which Hela held at a higher regard than the Tesseract and Casket of Ancient Winters. Described as a world-crushing demon. Killed Hela with one hit. Effortlessly threw away Hulk)

If not, then what RoTt35 agreed to:

At least Large Country level+ (Restored to his full might due to his crown being reunited with the Eternal Flame, which Hela held at a higher regard than the Casket of Ancient Winters. Killed Hela with one hit. Effortlessly threw away Hulk)

 

[NaturalDestroyer]

I wonder if additional justification could be gained from The Eternal Flame being regarded as more powerful than the Tesseract which contained the Mind Stone, which Age of Ultron Thor regarded as the strongest destructive force in the universe

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

the Tesseract which contained the Mind Stone

The Tesseract contains the Space Stone, not the Mind Stone. And scaling the Eternal Flame above the Tesseract is a big part of the OP

That probably isn’t the case due to hela considering his eternal flame greater then the likes of the bifrost and tesseract


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Even going as far as to call a piece of it “true power”. This is given even more weight when considering she has knowledge on Odin’s weapon vault. And surtur is described as a world crushing demon.

So I believe Surtur should have similar like Hela and Odin. At least High 6-A, likely 5-B

the Mind Stone, which Age of Ultron Thor regarded as the strongest destructive force in the universe

This was rejected in the Infinity Stone AP CRT

 

[NaturalDestroyer]

Whoops that was a brain flop on my part

 

[Lacku]

Probably something like this:

If not, then what RoTt35 agreed to:

The first option would work since its Marvels own statements but I think we should also upgrade weakened Hela to High 6-B+

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Changed thread title

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

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[The_one_you_least_expect]

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[The_one_you_least_expect]

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[Oscar]

Not if this helps, but apparently the destruction of Asgard was on a planetary scale according to the Loki series

Sooooo

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Sooooo

Oh, forgot about that

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Sooooo

Ok I added it in

 

[Oscar]

Ok I added it in

all right

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Bump

 

[Excellence616]

Bump

No bumping again bro.