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The funniest thing about hulkbuster is that Tony doesn't really need it anymore to clap Hulk
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MCU speed downgrade
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Fair I'll refrain from that for now since he'll scale regardless due to scaling from spiderman and downscaling from hela
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Tbf the Hulkbuster 2.0 was the Mark 49. The Mark 50 and 85 are probably good enough that he decided that something that big wasn't super worth it anymore.
Especially since both seem rather bulky.
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So, High Hypersonic flight speed with MHS combat speed and reactions (Via scaling from Spidey)?
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Seems that way yeah since there's no real way to prove those calcs scale to his reactions
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For Iron Man it'd be like
- MHS combat speed. Supersonic or Supersonic+ flight speed
- MHS combat speed. High Hypersonic flightspeed
- MHS Speed
- MHS+ combat speed. At least MHS flight speed
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Spidey calc still needs evaluation.
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I guess we could start by asking Spino, since he's one of our MCU experts.
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Btw what are we doing with anyone who reacts to Thor's stronger/est Hammer throw since we have a speed calc for that ? He's listed for MHS+ throwing and flight
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Thor's hammer flies into space (MCU)
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Was there a time that happened? I don't recall tbhBtw what are we doing with anyone who reacts to Thor's stronger/est Hammer throw since we have a speed calc for that ? He's listed for MHS+ throwing and flight
Thor's hammer flies into space (MCU)
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Like the Iron Man stuff, you would need to prove Mjolnir was moving that fast in that particular scene to get a rating. Rather than transfer speeds between scenes to get there.
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If you're referring to the already evaluated and accepted feat I just posted it happens in literally just under a second so there are no transfer scene's that are occuring in between this is literally what's calc'd it's one scene
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To be less confusing on my end, the calc for MHS+ only applies to that scene. You would need evidence that Mjolnir was moving MHS+ in other scenes to scale something to its speed. Such as Kurse punching the hammer away from him.
Lightning has a set speed. Power Armor and Magic Hammers do not.
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Ah okay thanks for that clarification and I'm not saying it's always moving at those speeds at all that would be blatantly wrong, if there's nothing really to discuss about then ig and it stays the same
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I'm guessing we'll treat no-Mjolnir Cap keeping up with Thanos as an outlier?
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Thanos for the entire last battle was just slowly walking foreword as he one tapped everyone. So its not like he was being super serious at the time.
If you meant in Endgame then Cap was also fighting Thanos was Thor and Iron Man pre-Mjolnir.
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Are we also gonna talk about Thor reacting to visions mind stone in the deleted scene and his blitz or?
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We don't have to. No-hammer cap shouldn't scale to Thanos at all. Thanos was making nearly zero effort to fight back against Cap.
Edit: for the second time Qawsedf beat me to it again. I also forgot about Endgame, but I'll rewatch that scene.
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If I remember correctly thanos litterly just slapped cap away at the beginning of the fight and Steve only came back to use mjolnir
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I'm a ninja
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Yeah he kinda just slapped cap to the side and that was it
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That simplifies things quite a bit
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Tbh, I'm just happy the MCU finally breaches into MHS+
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So Iron Man will be like this
Captain Marvel and those with accepted calc's will remain the same along with the top tier and god tier scaling (unless they scale to the MHS+ in which case a increase?)
Captain America will be subsonic along with characters of that tier and below?
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Also do we have any decided rating to give Tony's mark 1? Like shouldn't it be at least be comparable to his base speed?
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Super Solider tier people would have subsonic travel/running speed.
Humans like Falcon or Black Widow would have peak human travel speed.
Captain Marvel will have MHS travel speed in atmosphere since we're scaling her to MHS+ combat speed.
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Falcon's travel speed would be his flight speed unless we're going to separate land and air travel speed(Falcon's travel is supersonic+ btw)
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Nevermind it's already separated between land and air travel on his profile I had to check to see
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Is there any scene of Quicksilver outspeeding Ultron's beams?
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Only an ultron sentry's beams at least from a quick look
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Also like a laser =/= laser. We're also talking about one of the most inconsistent live action speedsters who was shot twice and stared at a bullet long enough to incap himself.
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I can check when I've got time and the novel did say something about almost moving close to light speed.
It's laser from a mechanical source so credible. The bullet part can be seen as PIS.
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Weren't there times Stark was able to dodge Ultron's beams?
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At 00:50 here, we see how fast Ultron's beams appear from Quicksilver's perspective. Otherwise, there's this (at 1:35), but that just seems to be aim dodging. That's all I can find, and neither of those comes from Ultron's vibranium form.
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His best speed feat with the bullet incapping himself is how he gets his current speed rating. Are you seriously saying his current speed and death are PIS? I don't think you know what PIS is if so.
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