MCU Phase 6 General Discussion Thread

[That_moron2]

Also, a podcast for Daredevil: Born Again has started:

Right at the beginning Bethel calls Bullseye the deadliest assassin in the MCU

 

[Lonkitt]

Right at the beginning Bethel calls Bullseye the deadliest assassin in the MCU

Probably true given how much Matt glazes him in S3 of Daredevil

 

[Dinobot1996]

Daredevil: Born Again is off to a good start. Daredevil also got a decent speed feat of dodging a bullet fired at him from behind at fairly close range.

Also, a new podcast episode to accompany the season premiere:

 

[ByArrow]

MCU Thor and Gorr Lifting Strength Revision

Hello everyone. I would like to propose removing the Pre-Stellar Lifting Strength ratings for Thor and Gorr in the MCU. The reason is simple: the current justification appears to be circular. Thor’s Love and Thunder key currently has “At least Pre-Stellar” Lifting Strength because he...

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[Dinobot1996]

I'm surprised there isn't more representation for the Hand on the wiki, not even a profile for Madame Gao (who does at least have a decent respect thread here)

The Hand also has some decent preparation statements, considering their attempts to excavate for dragon bones had the effects a 4.6 magnitude earthquake. Stick later states they could do far worse damage, mentioning the disasters in Pompeii and Chernobyl as having been caused by the Hand.

 

[Dinobot1996]

The Fantastic Four: First Foes comic is out now.


The Mad Thinker has a genius intellect, but is explicitly not on Reed's level. His Awesome Android can fly and easily overpowers the Thing, with Ben claiming that the Android is ten times tougher than him, which should put it at 7-C if taken at face value. The Think does state that he calculated the limits of Ben's strength and built the Android to be stronger. It is unable to break through Sue's force fields with its strength, but bypasses the shields with sonic weaponry, as sound can pass through just fine. It launches fire-suppressing foam at Johnny and uses electricity against Reed, only getting stopped when Reed uploads HERBIE into the Android to reformat it.

 

[That_moron2]

Here's the work in progress profiles that haven't been adjusted in a while for First Steps

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Here's the work in progress profiles that haven't been adjusted in a while for First Steps

I feel like the justifications for Ben and Johnny's speeds are kind of shaky.

 

[Dalesean027]

I feel like the justifications for Ben and Johnny's speeds are kind of shaky.

Definitely, I'd say the same for Sue as well since the Silver Surfer was definitely not privy to her attacks at all as well, her shit is basically invisible usually and besides it makes no sense for her to be comprable to the surfer when they all literally get blitzed by her several times and even in that same scene

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Definitely, I'd say the same for Sue as well since the Silver Surfer was definitely not privy to her attacks at all as well, her shit is basically invisible usually and besides it makes no sense for her to be comprable to the surfer when they all literally get blitzed by her several times and even in that same scene

Apparently Sue is also tagged by a sound weapon in the comic lol.

 

[Dalesean027]

Apparently Sue is also tagged by a sound weapon in the comic lol.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Subsonic F4 RIP

 

[That_moron2]

Definitely, I'd say the same for Sue as well since the Silver Surfer was definitely not privy to her attacks at all as well, her shit is basically invisible usually and besides it makes no sense for her to be comprable to the surfer when they all literally get blitzed by her several times and even in that same scene

What would you suggest as an alternative?

 

[Dalesean027]

What would you suggest as an alternative?

if we nuke silver surfer scaling then the only combat speed feats for the gang are Subsonic *****

 

[That_moron2]

if we nuke silver surfer scaling then the only combat speed feats for the gang are Subsonic *****

Which feats

 

[Dalesean027]

Which feats

I'd have to look again but they did have some fast looking stuff

 

[Dinobot1996]

Johnny's flight speed should also ideally get figured out, probably through either instance of him flying to the upper atmosphere in a short timeframe.

 

[Dalesean027]

Johnny's flight speed should also ideally get figured out, probably through either instance of him flying to the upper atmosphere in a short timeframe.

Yeah he's for sure got High Hyper to MHS flight speeds for his faster shit when he's going long distances

 

[That_moron2]

Johnny's flight speed should also ideally get figured out, probably through either instance of him flying to the upper atmosphere in a short timeframe.

I have a calc for that

 

[Dalesean027]

I have a calc for that

good to go

 

[That_moron2]

Daredevil also got a decent speed feat of dodging a bullet fired at him from behind at fairly close range.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:That_moron2/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe:_Daredevil_Dodges_A_Bullet

 

[Dinobot1996]

Not bad for a feat that was performed pretty casually.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Do we scale all universes infinity stones the same ?

 

[Dinobot1996]

Considering they have What If...? feats listed on their profiles, all versions of the Stones should already be scaled at the same level.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Why is IG thanos rating so low then ?

 

[Dinobot1996]

The Infinity Gauntlet profile looks to have a 'Varies depending on the user' rating for all the Infinity Stones.

 

[Dinobot1996]

The combined release of episodes 2 and 3 of Daredevil: Born Again season 2 keeps ramping things up.

Daredevil gets another notable speed feat, dodging automatic gunfire.

Cole North is revealed to have survived being caught in the grenade explosions that blew up Matt's apartment in the season 1 finale, though left with a bit of facial scarring.

Swordsman gets to fight off multiple AVTF officers, and later gets to quickly figure out how to drive an AVTF armored vehicle.

Angela Del Toro starts wearing the White Tiger's amulet, though she hasn't gotten to really demonstrate its power yet.

Also, looks like there's two new installments of the podcast to tie into the new episodes:

 

[Dinobot1996]

With season 3 of Daredevil: Born Again currently filming, it seems that there's already spoiler pictures from the set circulating:

Spoiler: born again s3 spoilers

 

[darkphantom9805]

Bro can we get some stuff about vision quest

 

[Lonkitt]

Bro can we get some stuff about vision quest

No, we, yes WE, do not care about it

With season 3 of Daredevil: Born Again currently filming, it seems that there's already spoiler pictures from the set circulating:

Spoiler: born again s3 spoilers

Finally....They're back....

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Bro can we get some stuff about vision quest

Visionquest is a leftover from the era where Disney was green lighting a project for everyone, no one is hyped for it at all.

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Spoiler

 

[That_moron2]

With season 3 of Daredevil: Born Again currently filming, it seems that there's already spoiler pictures from the set circulating:

Spoiler: born again s3 spoilers

GOJO??????

 

[That_moron2]

The combined release of episodes 2 and 3 of Daredevil: Born Again season 2 keeps ramping things up.

Daredevil gets another notable speed feat, dodging automatic gunfire.

Cole North is revealed to have survived being caught in the grenade explosions that blew up Matt's apartment in the season 1 finale, though left with a bit of facial scarring.

Swordsman gets to fight off multiple AVTF officers, and later gets to quickly figure out how to drive an AVTF armored vehicle.

Angela Del Toro starts wearing the White Tiger's amulet, though she hasn't gotten to really demonstrate its power yet.

Also, looks like there's two new installments of the podcast to tie into the new episodes:

Matt also rips off a piece of rebarb

 

[That_moron2]

Cole North is revealed to have survived being caught in the grenade explosions that blew up Matt's apartment in the season 1 finale, though left with a bit of facial scarring.

Calced this

 

[Dinobot1996]

Episode 4 of Daredevil: Born Again season 2 is keeping the momentum going.

Bullseye gets some more skill feats, some of which were showcased in the official clip of the episode's opening scene that was released early. Said clip also features a notable feat of more gunfire evading. Vanessa later managed to tag him with a handgun, though Bullseye was in the middle of trying to throw a glass statuette at Fisk at that point.


Fisk got to stomp a heavyweight boxer in the ring, demonstrating a considerable strength and skill advantage and easily evading hits. He's also confirmed to weigh 325 pounds.


Also, the new podcast episode for this week:

 

[ByArrow]

MCU Captain Marvel Change.

Change to MCU Captain Marvel Include Absorption as her power is the absorption of light energy. I know this technically falls under Energy Manipulation however, I think Energy Manipulation is too broad and Absorption should be it's own separate thing. On a separate note wouldn't this call...

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[CharlesZaGreat]

 

[Dinobot1996]

Some tidbits from a podcast interview with Marvel Studios Head of Streaming, Television and Animation, Brad Winderbaum:

“I saw the first animatic of the first episode of Marvel Zombies season two this morning. It was crazy, I can’t say anything about it, but it delivers not just on like zombies, but also on like an MCU thing that has never really happened before that we’re very excited to do.”

On Wonder Man season 2: "It got a greenlight because we loved it and people loved it. And if you look at the history of television, there's a lot of shows that got greenlit for second and third seasons because the fanbase believed in it and the people behind-the-scenes believed in it. It definitely did well. And we're getting smarter as we make these things, hopefully. We're learning like velociraptors. We can open doors now. So Wonder Man Season 2 is — I can't say too much about it — but it's got a scope that makes it very producible and will deliver on all the character stuff that we love from the first season."

States that She-Hulk: Attorney at Law was one of the best-performing shows, though there was a mismatch between fan response and audience response; and hopes to get an opportunity to make more She-Hulk in the future

Agrees that What If...? should've gotten an episode where the other half was snapped

States that VisionQuest is full of surprises, and that “James Spader as Ultron is so flipping good. I can’t wait for you to see it.”

 

[Antvasima]

I despise zombie stories, but I am positive to Wonder Man and love She-Hulk as a (comicbook) character, so I hope that a second season will understand what makes her work much better than the first season.