MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

[Reyne]

Huh, congrats. You made a reply that is completely 100 percent related to what I was saying. I give you this medal:

(In all seriousness, you were trying to start something weren’t you? Don’t even bother replying to this. You’re not worth the attention)

I wasn't trying to start anything. I was just curious. That and I wanted to say I agreed with your sentiment.

The tree level Ikaris thing is just my sense of humor. How he couldn't bring down a simple tree when attacking Kro, of all people the Superman of the group.

 

[Reyne]

The Marvel Legends and Lego CMF leaks have me thinking What If Season 2 will be revealed via an official trailer soon. Isn't Comic Con coming up?

So, we can look forward to Odin v Wenwu/Hela, IW Avengers v Thanus, Goliath, Earth Surtur, and Gamora Thanos.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Could this be Resistance to Electricity Manipulation for Pre-Awakening Thor, since he was at the epicenter of the lightning shockwave but was completely unaffected?

 

[Reyne]

Could this be Resistance to Electricity Manipulation for Pre-Awakening Thor, since he was at the epicenter of the lightning shockwave but was completely unaffected?

To an extent. Charging up to blow Sokovia was causing him pain, and it PROBABLY knocked him out, so low level attacks seems to be a nothing burger. Then again, the blast that KOed Hela didn't affect him.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Charging up to blow Sokovia was causing him pain, and it PROBABLY knocked him out

…I don't really see either of those, and KLOL clarified with me that the explosion didn't damage him at all

 

[Reyne]

…I don't really see either of those, and KLOL clarified with me that the explosion didn't damage him at all

From Phase Two: Marvel's Universe: Age of Ultron, "Thor was already in the church. He thrust Mjolnir into the air and called down lightning such as the world had rarely seen. His body shook from the force and the pain of channeling it."

I didn't say it damaged him. It's just that Thor thinks and reacts very quickly, and yet he didn't call Mjolnir while falling hundreds of feet. We don't know for sure of he was KOed. I just think it's reasonable to say he was probably or at least possibly knocked out.

 

[RoTt35]

The scaling used in Man-Thing's profile is weird, do we even have confirmation that the statue on Sakaar is of him?

 

[Dinobot1996]

The scaling used in Man-Thing's profile is weird, do we even have confirmation that the statue on Sakaar is of him?

Taika Waititi mentioned Man-Thing by name when clarifying who the statues were of.

Kevin Feige said the following on the statues:

“There are previous Grandmaster champions that we see, as one for Hulk is being constructed, and those are all sort of Easter eggs for the deeper comic universe – that may or may not ever show up in the cinematic universe, but we thought it’d be fun to celebrate.”

I don't think there have been any follow-up statements on the matter since the release of Werewolf by Night (and I'm not really expecting the artbook coming out in a few months to address it), but the special didn't really establish anything about Man-Thing that would contradict him apparently having fought on Sakaar at some point, or being powerful enough to become a champion (as he was weakened by the Bloodstone for much of his screen time)

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I'm preparing another CRT for Resistances I missed in my previous one. How does it look so far?

Spoiler: Resistances (Asgardian Edition)

• Thor states that his alcohol is aged for a thousand years from the barrels of Grunhel's Fleet and not meant for mortal men (as shown by Stan Lee getting so drunk that he can't stand up and needed to be carried away), implying that it can be drunk by Asgardians, so the other profiled ones should get Resistance to Alcoholism
• Thor should have Resistance to Electricity Manipulation in his Pre-Awakening key as well, since he was unaffected by his lightning shockwave
• Like her other comrades, Sif should have Resistance to Extreme Cold for enduring the cold of Jotunheim, a frozen world and chilling wasteland home that persists in an endless winter night, without issue

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I'm preparing another CRT for Resistances I missed in my previous one. How does it look so far?

Spoiler: Resistances (Asgardian Edition)

• Thor states that his alcohol is aged for a thousand years from the barrels of Grunhel's Fleet and not meant for mortal men (as shown by Stan Lee getting so drunk that he can't stand up and needed to be carried away), implying that it can be drunk by Asgardians, so the other profiled ones should get Resistance to Alcoholism
• Thor should have Resistance to Electricity Manipulation in his Pre-Awakening key as well, since he was unaffected by his lightning shockwave
• Like her other comrades, Sif should have Resistance to Extreme Cold for enduring the cold of Jotunheim, a frozen world and chilling wasteland home that persists in an endless winter night, without issue

Would Sif, being left for dead by Gorr on that snowy planet in L&T, not being bothered by the cold weather count as additional support since Sif was badly beaten, bleeding out, and out of stamina for who knows how long?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Would Sif, being left for dead by Gorr on that snowy planet in L&T, not being bothered by the cold weather count as additional support since Sif was badly beaten, bleeding out, and out of stamina for who knows how long?

I can add that too, yes

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Would Sif, being left for dead by Gorr on that snowy planet in L&T, not being bothered by the cold weather count as additional support since Sif was badly beaten, bleeding out, and out of stamina for who knows how long?

Good shot mate

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I'm preparing another CRT for Resistances I missed in my previous one. How does it look so far?

Spoiler: Resistances (Asgardian Edition)

• Thor states that his alcohol is aged for a thousand years from the barrels of Grunhel's Fleet and not meant for mortal men (as shown by Stan Lee getting so drunk that he can't stand up and needed to be carried away), implying that it can be drunk by Asgardians, so the other profiled ones should get Resistance to Alcoholism
• Thor should have Resistance to Electricity Manipulation in his Pre-Awakening key as well, since he was unaffected by his lightning shockwave
• Like her other comrades, Sif should have Resistance to Extreme Cold for enduring the cold of Jotunheim, a frozen world and chilling wasteland home that persists in an endless winter night, without issue

I can add that too, yes

Here's the CRT. Added one more thing about The Destroyer

 

[Dinobot1996]

Just finished episode 5 of Secret Invasion.

Gravik might be an odd one to scale. While he definitely seems superior to the average Skrull, they can still harm him when they caught him off guard, suggesting that Gravik isn't significantly passively amped by his Super Skrull enhancements at this point. He can easily tear right through the torso of a normal Skrull when actively using Groot powers though.

Apparently every Avenger had blood drawn during the Battle of Earth, including Carol Danvers, which I can only assumed was caused when she got Power Stone-punched across the battlefield.

Well, that was a neat little cameo on the plane from someone I hadn't been expected to see pop up again, and had honestly almost forgotten about.

He's back.

 

[Lacku]

He's back.

Kinda crazy that Nick Fury had to earn his eyepatch and leather jacket back in his own show

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Just finished episode 5 of Secret Invasion.

Gravik might be an odd one to scale. While he definitely seems superior to the average Skrull, they can still harm him when they caught him off guard, suggesting that Gravik isn't significantly passively amped by his Super Skrull enhancements at this point. He can easily tear right through the torso of a normal Skrull when actively using Groot powers though.

Apparently every Avenger had blood drawn during the Battle of Earth, including Carol Danvers, which I can only assumed was caused when she got Power Stone-punched across the battlefield.

Well, that was a neat little cameo on the plane from someone I hadn't been expected to see pop up again, and had honestly almost forgotten about.

He's back.

Gravik's condition might be caused by Extremis. Remember Killian and his henchmen's main gimmick was the fact they were glass cannons, yes they could tank potent hits but the problem with them was mostly that they could heal so fast hitting them barely mattered, especially Killian.

 

[RoTt35]

I made a CRT for the regeneration of the Kree

 

[Reyne]

Hmm, Thunderbolts and Brave New World has been alleged to connect to Eternals, with the issue of Tiamut's huge corpse finally being broached. Secret Invasion (BELOW) provides another possibly reason, but what if a substance from Tiamut was used to create the Sentry Serum, possibly connecting him to the same infinite well of energy Eternals tap into. I think it would be an excellent adaptation of the "power of a million exploding suns" thing from the comics.

How do you SPOILER tag?


BLANK BLANK BLANK Then again, the serum could be created using DNA from Thor or Captain Marvel, or any of the other heroes who bleed in Endgame. BLANK BLANK BLANK BLANK BLANK

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Still remains the most outrageous deleted scene in the MCU

 

[Coolboy6]

Still remains the most outrageous deleted scene in the MCU

Ok but hear me out on Clint’s mom tho

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Looking at this profile, I'm starting to have questions

Relativistic+ combat and reaction speed (Can keep up with Thor, Mighty Thor and Valkyrie. Able to dodge Mjölnir being thrown at him in close range. Blocked and dodged Thor's lightning after it was fired), far higher via Teleportation (Capable of instantly travelling between different planets and to the Shadow Realm through shadows)

Shouldn't that part just be MFTL+?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Why does he have a speed rating for teleportation anyways

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Just binged the last 3 Secret Invasion episodes, very cool

 

[Galvino]

One thing I miss is the villains having memorable outfits or goofy suits.

 

[Dinobot1996]

According to the Phase Three: Marvel's Captain America: Civil War junior novel, the Iron Man Mark 46 armor's unibeam blast used to vaporize Bucky's bionic arm was stated to be ten times more powerful than a regular repulsor blast, (so I guess that would put the unibeam at 12.32 tons, 8-B):

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Aldrich Killian snapped a waiter's neck, so would that be Class 1 Lifting Strength?

 

[RoTt35]

I found this about Muspelheim:

Muspelheim is essentially a Dyson sphere, which is an enormous structure around a dying star. The premise is this has been here for a long time and it’s coated in residue of the dying star and drawing energy out of the dying star. It’s populated by demons and dragons and all sorts of amazing creatures who live on the energy that’s coming out of the star. It has internal spaces that are vast holes which are just really like being inside a bicycle frame. If you imagine a bicycle frame stretched around a star, some of Muspelheim is inside, some of it when Thor tries to get away is outside on the surface of the Dyson sphere.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Aldrich Killian snapped a waiter's neck, so would that be Class 1 Lifting Strength?

Shouldn't he not scale to Iron Man's LS?

 

[RoTt35]

Shouldn't he not scale to Iron Man's LS?

He did this and another enhanced by Extremis also did this so probably

 

[Dinobot1996]

My Iron Man CRT is now up, mostly compiled of stuff I've brought up here previously.

He did this and another enhanced by Extremis also did this so probably

I have added that as an extra section to my CRT.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I found this about Muspelheim:

I've seen this shared before. Not sure whether this can warrant anything new or interesting

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I've seen this shared before. Not sure whether this can warrant anything new or interesting

Cannot hurt to at least take a look at it, it might have something useful (for support at least maybe)

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Cannot hurt to at least take a look at it, it might have something useful (for support at least maybe)

I know it can expand the Muspelheim justification on Pre-Awakening Thor's heat resistance, so that's nice

 

[RoTt35]

I know it can expand the Muspelheim justification on Pre-Awakening Thor's heat resistance, so that's nice

It would also upgrade the base range of the Aether from Planetary to Stellar

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Guy who knows better because Movies = Real Life

 

[RoTt35]

The **** is this?

"Moreover, the presence of Low 7-C in the Guardians of the Galaxy is ridiculous when Quill is depicted as a 10-A with increased strength, and Gamora dies from falling from the height of a multi-storey building."

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

This reminds me, weren't there plans to split Iron Man's armors like the comics pages do?

 

[Dinobot1996]

There is now a calc for Drax's drone tearing feat which will need evaluation. If any of the three ends are accepted, it'd give Drax a Class K LS rating.

 

[Reyne]

Guy who knows better because Movies = Real Life

Granted, verse creators don’t really think about how much energy it would take to destroy this or that, or how fast bullets are compared to anything else. All of THIS exists in a realm of logistics external to (most) verses.

If you were to ask Kevin Feige (or anyone else at Marvel Studio) if Thanos could brush off a nuke, I bet he'd/they'd give you a funny look and say he'd survive, but not brush it off.

Vs Battles is frowned up heavily by other sites. I'm curious, how do you peeps look at other sites?

Relevant to this thread, is there anything of note in The Marvel's trailer? It almost looks like Carol is unconscious in space? I wonder if she'll get deposited early in the film, being as though she's wearing the brighter suit and not the cooler desaturated one seen at the end. It could explain why she's using a Cosmic Rod, and why she doesn't seem to be a big gun.