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Not once in the Raimiverse, Webbverse, or MCU do the Spider-Men have confirmed rage amps
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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Not once in the Raimiverse, Webbverse, or MCU do the Spider-Men have confirmed rage amps
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I think Phantom may be referring to the plotline of Spidey losing his powers due to emotional turmoil in Spider-Man 2
That said it's a weird assumption to think getting angry would enhance them
That said it's a weird assumption to think getting angry would enhance them
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Raimi Peter himself said that was caused due to an existential crisis. Definitely not a rage amp
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Tobey does in the final fight with goblin he was able to go from barley able to stand to completely stomping him
literally definition of a rage amp
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Raimi Peter was losing my because he was tired out right before the battle. He then forced himself to get up and he kicked Goblin’s ass
Not a rage amp
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What do you call going from tired and not able to stand to stomping goblin ? That’s a rage amp it literally says he gains strength in the scan I posted
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Regaining strength =/= gaining strength that wasn’t previously there
Not a rage amp
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As a note, Bucky's bionic arm could potentially have a Class K feat if the high end (using gold-titanium) had been used on his Iron Man gauntlet crushing feat.
The nitinol low-end seems a bit random, especially considering the Marvel Studios Visual Dictionary outright states that the Mark 46 armor still uses the gold-titanium alloy (even specifying that the plating consists of 95.5 percent titanium, 4.5 percent gold).
The nitinol low-end seems a bit random, especially considering the Marvel Studios Visual Dictionary outright states that the Mark 46 armor still uses the gold-titanium alloy (even specifying that the plating consists of 95.5 percent titanium, 4.5 percent gold).
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Now that the Tesseract is upgraded to At least High 6-A, likely 5-B and the Casket of Ancient Winters is High 6-B should we consider maybe upgrading Hela and other Post-Awakening characters? If we do we need to give a lot of thought to it and not rush into making a half-baked CRT that can be easily rejected.
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People not understanding why people prefer MCU Peter to Tobey is like me not understanding why everyone praises the Avatar movies 
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Made a sandbox for Hogun. The one thing stopping me from making his profile is his scaling to Hela, since Asgardians like Pre-Awakening Thor, Sif and Heimdall would scale as well
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Shang Chi was intended to be a Hulk level character, per the film's director, and What If Season 2 shows some promise, depending on how Hela's episode is set up. Abomination is in limbo at the moment given his being retconned in She-Hulk to not fighting Hulk, but I doubt he won't be treated as a peer to Hulk in the future.
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We don't scale Sacred Timeline characters to their What If counterparts, except in cases where they are basically identical (e.g. Doctor Strange, since he basically followed the near-exact same path as his Sacred Timeline counterpart to become the Sorcerer Supreme until he tried to revive his gf)
There were multiple threads discussing this
Pretty sure I already brought it up and it was rejected
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There's also the 4.75 multiplier of Iron Man's absorption. And I don't know if the 5-C scaling could be tried again using this statement along with what Rocket demonstrated in GotG 3, plus his statement about the snap being a power surge of ridiculously cosmic proportions and that no one's ever seen anything like that
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There's also this statement, which basically confirms that Mjolnir is among those weapons
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Which threads in particular would best represent this site's view on What If scaling? 2 and 7 are the one's I'm not on board with for scaling, but each site has their own views, so it would be good to know.
Odd, given Ikaris and the Eternals as a whole only have the cloud feat to support high tier scaling, with everything else being very low level.
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The difference is that the Eternals scale from a calculated feat that Ikaris performed in the movie. While Shang-Chi's is just a WoG statement with nothing to support it, like Namor being comparable to Thor, Adam Warlock being comparable to Captain Marvel and Thor, Thanos being the biggest and baddest villain in the MCU, Captain Marvel being the most powerful character in the MCU, etc
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The last one is particulary egregious considering what happened in Endgame
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So I guess the LS stuff that should be done relevant to Spider-Man would include:
Evaluating New Goblin's wall calc
Further evaluating the tramway calc
Well, this Symbiote suit Spidey calc seems like it was accepted, but it isn't linked on the profile.
Not sure if getting the wall pulled by the protostar sorted out would be viable or not.
Evaluating New Goblin's wall calc
Further evaluating the tramway calc
Well, this Symbiote suit Spidey calc seems like it was accepted, but it isn't linked on the profile.
Not sure if getting the wall pulled by the protostar sorted out would be viable or not.
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I was looking through the 4-B MCU OWO thread, and the spire talk just lost me.
Tony points out the spire is vibranium, which he knows sends out the energy it is hit with, and thinks about getting Thor to hit it. That doesn't sound like Thor should hit it just to destroy the spire, but in an attempt to destroy the city. The spire, or core, is scanned separate from the casing around it. That would be the vibranium part, the part he cuts through the bottom cap to get to and heat up. We see that the magnetic field the spire/core is generating is just barely holding the rock together (rock is still falling from it when the helicarrier gets there). Thor hitting it would just overpower it.
Speaking of Thor, it just doesn't comput that he could crack the core itself (the fricken handle he strikes shows up intact later, but that's unimportant). Note that this is just talk about that thread; I haven't read the surely dozens of newer threads on this subject. Thor is supposed to be weakened in Avengers Assemble, which is why he didn't destroy Cap's shield. How does that explain Vision not doing damage to Ultron with Mjolnir? That's Vision and Thor's strength combined, and yet even the novel points out how it didn't do much. Then there's Thor, Iron Man, and the Mind Stone having to ram up power (the audio description says build up, I believe) until they damage him.
Another thing. The Jotenheim and Sokovia destruction feats have similar calc yields, and yet Thor charging up for around 16 seconds is never brought up. On Jotenheim, it was just the barest of charge ups. How is that consistent? Not to mention Tony put in like 47 kilotons into the core (10 terawatt chest RT for around 20 seconds). I am confusion. As far as I'm aware, Thor is not taken as been sapped by the vision waters during battle.
(By the way, I'm curious. Not trying to be nosey, but what are some the calculation groups credentials. As in, how far does their knowledge go. All over the interwebs, people take issue will calcs because they come from randos on the internet. Like, why should I care about their "opinion", kind of thing.)
P.P.S - So, the 5 gigaton reading has been ignored following that one revision. Can the 286x reading still be used? Something something someone remarks that Rocket implies the two snaps are similar in yield. But how? No one had seen a surge of energy of that magnitude before, but then it happened again. OK, so what. It's another surge; that doesn't mean it was the same.
Tony points out the spire is vibranium, which he knows sends out the energy it is hit with, and thinks about getting Thor to hit it. That doesn't sound like Thor should hit it just to destroy the spire, but in an attempt to destroy the city. The spire, or core, is scanned separate from the casing around it. That would be the vibranium part, the part he cuts through the bottom cap to get to and heat up. We see that the magnetic field the spire/core is generating is just barely holding the rock together (rock is still falling from it when the helicarrier gets there). Thor hitting it would just overpower it.
Speaking of Thor, it just doesn't comput that he could crack the core itself (the fricken handle he strikes shows up intact later, but that's unimportant). Note that this is just talk about that thread; I haven't read the surely dozens of newer threads on this subject. Thor is supposed to be weakened in Avengers Assemble, which is why he didn't destroy Cap's shield. How does that explain Vision not doing damage to Ultron with Mjolnir? That's Vision and Thor's strength combined, and yet even the novel points out how it didn't do much. Then there's Thor, Iron Man, and the Mind Stone having to ram up power (the audio description says build up, I believe) until they damage him.
Another thing. The Jotenheim and Sokovia destruction feats have similar calc yields, and yet Thor charging up for around 16 seconds is never brought up. On Jotenheim, it was just the barest of charge ups. How is that consistent? Not to mention Tony put in like 47 kilotons into the core (10 terawatt chest RT for around 20 seconds). I am confusion. As far as I'm aware, Thor is not taken as been sapped by the vision waters during battle.
(By the way, I'm curious. Not trying to be nosey, but what are some the calculation groups credentials. As in, how far does their knowledge go. All over the interwebs, people take issue will calcs because they come from randos on the internet. Like, why should I care about their "opinion", kind of thing.)
P.P.S - So, the 5 gigaton reading has been ignored following that one revision. Can the 286x reading still be used? Something something someone remarks that Rocket implies the two snaps are similar in yield. But how? No one had seen a surge of energy of that magnitude before, but then it happened again. OK, so what. It's another surge; that doesn't mean it was the same.
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Infinite strength SpiderMan upgrade when
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Never
Infinite strength SpiderMan upgrade when
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You can’t handle the facts when spidey no sells the infinite mirror dimension collapsing onto him
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i'm convinced
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Raj?
You can’t handle the facts when spidey no sells the infinite mirror dimension collapsing onto him
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You weren't banned after the Ikaris LS thing? The plot thickens.
By the way, Cap > Ikaris. It's a fact. Ikaris is tree level.
Shotgun level Deviants > Ikaris.
(No, but serious, if his power is determined by his outlier, might as well give him the correlating strength.)
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I see the Eternals in two ways. 1, they're very low level and could probably be wiped out by low yield missiles, and 2, they're all high tiers, with Ikaris simply experiencing 7.6 teratons of energy being as if you or I were standing outside on a windy day. So I'm indifferent to how they're currently ranked.
That said, understood. I'll cease these frequent and irrelevant comments.
Addition, so I don't post another comment.
This is just a thought experiment. Let's say Black Bolt was a non-enhanced human, and his .35 ton whisper is 30 decibels. The loudest scream ever recorded is 129 decibels, which would make the scream his suit took 3.1 gigatons.
Did Luke Cage's tire throw ever get a calc?
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Not that I'm aware of, though the direct statement of the tire being 400 pounds would be helpful for a calculation. Not sure that it'd end up being anything better than a supporting feat though. Cage did do this to a dumpster though.
Jessica Jones throwing Will Simpson's body out to sea might also be worth looking into. Also her bending chairs and a grate.
As an additional note, the information mentioned in this unevaluated calc might be useful for figuring out what Kingpin's car door tearing feat (though we don't know if Fisk's feat was done with one or two arms)
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A guidebook states that the Kree can regenerate from even the most severe injuries, what type of Regeneration would that be?
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More likely it's Mid-Low Regen since that one Kree guy couldn't Regen his finger, unless the serum that made his blood boil was compromising his Regen
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Huh, congrats. You made a reply that is completely 100 percent related to what I was saying. I give you this medal:
(In all seriousness, you were trying to start something weren’t you? Don’t even bother replying to this. You’re not worth the attention)
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Which one?
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The Kree guy that was captured by the Russians and interrogated? You know episode 2?
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Wasn't he a Skrull? Or are you referring to another series?
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Oh got it mixed up, I've been up for so long that it's already morning again from where I'm from
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