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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Rabbit2002
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All for that with the worst adaptation from the comic (Ultimatum or something like that) being chosen for Deadpool 3
Still looking forward for it tho lmfao
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Looks great! Well done
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Watcher being able to clap Eternity is wild lmfao
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Episode 4 of Secret Invasion has more Extremis regeneration feats, more noteworthy weaponry that Nick Fury gets to use, Gravik utilizing the powers of Groot, and a real gut punch of an ending.
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Amazing one!
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"a real gut punch of an ending" Good thing I never cared about Talos then
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I mean, if we go by the idea that Eternity doesn't exist across the whole multiverse as a unique being and a version of him exists in every universe, it makes sense since the Watcher operates outside the multiverse
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oh yeah i still haven't watched last weeks episode lol
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Poor Talos, he did everything for Nick and basically got nothing in return. Also, where else am I supposed to get my bitter old man yaoi form now!?
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Good
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What the hell is Marvel doing?
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clever title if you think about it
if ^2 is squared and ^3 is cubed, then ^4 is tesseracted
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Might just be my interpretation, but the scene makes it look more like Kro just realised it was Makkari creating a tornado, so he stomped the ground and Makkari didn't realise it before she got blasted back. He isn't really reacting to Makkari...?
Maybe it could be some sort of Enhanced Senses since he managed to adjust his eyes to see Makkari's afterimages through the dust? Idk, I'm not sure what to make of the feat
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Yeah, that's probably how Ikaris caught Makkari; he focused on where she was moving and prompted a grab, only Kro could just attack all around him and still land.
Speaking of Makkari, she'd be MHS+ to sub-realativistic is you just calc the searching scene, but if you count up the length of time for her to get back, she's like Mach 4.5.
Also, I've never not thought about this, but the perspective on Ikaris parting cloud is very odd. It looks like it's only a few feet in diameter when compared to him. You can even see the trail he creates which further reinforces the smolness.
Speaking of Makkari, she'd be MHS+ to sub-realativistic is you just calc the searching scene, but if you count up the length of time for her to get back, she's like Mach 4.5.
Also, I've never not thought about this, but the perspective on Ikaris parting cloud is very odd. It looks like it's only a few feet in diameter when compared to him. You can even see the trail he creates which further reinforces the smolness.
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At the end of the day, the size of the hole in the clouds is calculated by comparing its final size to Earth, when it's no longer expanding
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I understand that. It's just that him pretty much popping onto screen (it looks like he gets to the final perspective once he breaches into space) and this being the most outlier of outlier feats that makes it weird.
Nevertheless, Ikaris + Shang-Chi > Captain Marvel + Amped Endgame Wanda + Abomination [Thor + Hulk v Thanus?].
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...no? Ikaris scales to a lower level than Captain Marvel, Wanda, Thor, Hulk and Thanos
Shang-Chi is weaker than everyone else here
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There's this statement from the director of Eternals to scale Ikaris to Captain Marvel, although I don't know how reliable and usable it is
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She initially bases it on that they can both fly, but she then admits that binary mode would be really tough, so it still seems like Ikaris < Captain Marvel
I remember a similar-ish statement being made about Captain Marvel vs Thena, but Qawsed rejected it because they have zero canon interactions so far
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It's about Zombies and not a serious comment. Captain Marvel, Wanda, and Abomination being Zombies is quite a force, and the survivor's big gun would be Shang-Chi, but then there's Ikaris by his lonesome. He's heavily damaged, but still himself. I think he's going to be the BIGGEST gun, though Thor and Hulk are unknowns. Unless Hulk escaped, I have a feeling he got turned.
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You should've included that in your original comment
I kinda don't want Thor to be in the series, for whatever reason. An Asgardian zombie doesn't sit right with me, though maybe it's because I've rotted my brain with Thor powerscaling
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Nah, the resulting confusion was too difficult to pass up.
Hold your horses, we might see IW Thor in the episode where Steve Roger's knocks the time stone loose in Wakanda.
Speaking of Thor, and I know this is poking the VSBW bear, but, why is Thor large planet/how is Zeus being the wisest God per Thor make Thor like possibly stellar? It's just Thor who said it, the same Thor who didn't know Zeus was an arse or that Stormbreaker is the key to Eternity. Valkyrie herself doesn't know how Thor's powers work, and Thor learning about all Asgardian weapons has amounted to jack. Groot isn't even necessarily a learned language.
Hold your horses, we might see IW Thor in the episode where Steve Roger's knocks the time stone loose in Wakanda.
Speaking of Thor, and I know this is poking the VSBW bear, but, why is Thor large planet/how is Zeus being the wisest God per Thor make Thor like possibly stellar? It's just Thor who said it, the same Thor who didn't know Zeus was an arse or that Stormbreaker is the key to Eternity. Valkyrie herself doesn't know how Thor's powers work, and Thor learning about all Asgardian weapons has amounted to jack. Groot isn't even necessarily a learned language.
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Thor scales to the gods of Omnipotence City, who are the most powerful in the universe, making them superior to Khonshu and Ammit
It's not because of him being the wisest god. It's about the gods of Omnipotence City > Ammit > Khonshu. And Thor is "possibly Stellar" by scaling to Gorr possibly moving a star
Zeus being an arse doesn't affect his power level. How is that relevant? That doesn't mean she knows absolutely nothing at all. How is that relevant? How is that relevant?
If you think it should be changed, make a CRT
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That assumes every god there were the only gods that could be there, or that all of them were present. The Egyptian gods, in particular, should be on Earth in their hosts. The Great Protector resides in a different dimension, and doesn't even seem to be around very often, so it would make sense that he could be there. Bast as well.
Well, the Shadow Realm is supposed to be Gorr's realm/a realm that's cloaked in darkness and makes me more powerful, so I don't see why he couldn't manipulate everything there.
The reason I call their knowledge (Weapons, power, language) into question is because their credibility has so far been questionable. So to say with absolute certainty that they are right would be somewhat naive or just disengous. That's just my 2 cents.
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Thor later states that the Golden Temple is where the universe's most powerful gods hang out, which would clearly still refer to characters like Bast and especially Zeus
And Thor would scale to him since they clashed blows evenly and Gorr was harmed by his lightning
They aren't omniscient, so they aren't gonna be right about everything. But they aren't brainless mouth breathers. Thor himself has knowledge about singularities
It is emphasised twice in the same movie that Omnipotence City is home of the most powerful gods in the universe, and nothing contradicts it yet
The Marvel Studios Character Encyclopaedia states that it's made of steel and leather. The Marvel Studios Visual Dictionary includes bronze as well. None of those materials are particularly strong, so it falls to inconsistent clothing durability
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Nobody knows anymore.
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I'm not saying they're brainless. It's just a case of taking what they say with a bit of salt.
Well, yeah, but I don't see the conective tissue between combat power and realm manipulation.
Maybe I will. Reading some of these other threads does have me rethinking my perception of singular mindedness on this site/in each verse. Might as well put everything front and center.
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