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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Well that's not a good sign
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From the top of my head, the one of the things I think that can be upgraded are the Ranges of Spells/Powers/Abilities/Senses/etc.
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Scarlet Witch's Existence Erasure as she erased the Darkhold in all the universes at once, the Watcher's Cosmic Awareness as he sees the totality of the Multiverse across all time and space, and regarding AP we have Alioth ending the Multiversal War between countless Low 1-C timelines and Infinity Ultron having statements of being a threat to all the universes and the Multiverse itself
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According to Hannah Beachler, the production designer of the Black Panther movies, Dragon Flyers are indeed made with vibranium:
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Did he destroy them barehanded or was it through the use of his spear?
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He used his spear on practically all of them, though he did seemingly destroy a Dragon Flyer by throwing another one he disabled with his spear at it, and he also later threw another one that he slashed though with his spear so hard that it partially fragmented, then exploded. Not sure how much that counts for though.
It looks like a couple Dragon Flyers get shot down by Sanctuary II though.
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I think he more or less just knocked it out of the air, since he did hit the second aircraft in the cockpit and the sudden added weight of the first aircraft and all that.
TBF the explosion could have been caused by its power source being compromised similar to what happened to Shuri's ship when Namor stabbed its power source.
The fragments on the other hand could have come from either the Dragon Flyer or the Snow Leopard's deck.
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Good points. At least Sanctuary II and whatever scales should still be able to get a boost as far as I can tell.
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Hannah: Claims Namor is stronger than Hulk
M'Baku and Ryan Coogler: Are we a joke to you?
At this point, I'd completely disregard any WoG statements that compare a new character to already-established high tiers, without the former having feats on a similar level or direct scaling to the latter in the actual media they are presented in
M'Baku and Ryan Coogler: Are we a joke to you?
At this point, I'd completely disregard any WoG statements that compare a new character to already-established high tiers, without the former having feats on a similar level or direct scaling to the latter in the actual media they are presented in
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Agreed
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Is the entire thing Vibranium or is it a similar case to Ultron and their cars where they only have Vibranium shells while their internal components and circuitry are more fragile.
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There doesn't seem to be anything that specifically confirms things either way, though having just a vibranium shell is probably the safer assumption.Is the entire thing Vibranium or is it a similar case to Ultron and their cars where they only have Vibranium shells while their internal components and circuitry are more fragile.
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No, in Quantumania.
Alright Ig.
Fair Ig, not sure if a Varies is necessary though. What did Xolum do?
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IIRC someone posted a statement that his head contains a star
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I can get him to Low 1-C/6D.
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Debatable if that also amps his AP.
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Grenade launcher?
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Good thing I'm here.
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Low 6-B total energy at that size no?
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Thx and yeah, not sure if I agree since only the Captain Carter feat is explicit. Like if Wong and Strange had a spell which gave that level of AP to people, their magic would also have to be that strong, meaning Strange Supreme would never have needed to absorb anything to begin with to pull off the reversal of the absolute point.
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Why would their spells be the same level though? Why would Wong's Spell scale to the one Strange Supreme cast?
That was a spell cast by Strange Supreme after he had absorbed multiple magical creatures and himself though?
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Carter's dura = Carter's AP, thus Wong + regular Strange's protection spell's energy = regular Strange's dura = pre-fusion Strange Supreme's AP. We know that regular Strange's AP added on top of Supreme Strange's AP gives him enough power to pull off the reversal of the absolute point. This means that all Supreme Strange would need to do to get the power to reverse an absolute point is absorb his other self and maybe Wong and none of those magical creatures.
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So basically ignore that plot point of the episode
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So basically spell shouldn't scale to AP and Party Thor is a Low 1-C CHAD
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Also getting the power to undo an absolute point is the entire plot of the episode.
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You said:
Hence,
"That plot point" = "absorb magical creatures"
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Dormammu is 4D, Watcher sees him as fiction so he's 5D. Watcher's realm contains uncountably infinite 5D crystals, making it 6D. Infinity Ultron can warp the entire realm, making him Low 1-C. This scales to the following What If? peeps: all versions of Infinity Ultron, regular Strange, Supreme Strange, the Ancient One, both Captain Marvels, Party Thor, Dormammu and the guardians of the multiverse's amped dura and most importantly Hawkeye's arrow(s).
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Still very important plot point.
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Which you implied wasn't necessary.
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I was forcing a contradiction so y'all couldn't use Captain Carter to disprove it being a Party Thor feat.
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... You are correct.
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= main timeline Dormammu cause they're outside of time so they're not really affected by the branching.
Thanos' kick >> Strange's Tao Mandala <= Dormammu.
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Unless you have She-Hulk at like 7D?
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