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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

From the top of my head, the one of the things I think that can be upgraded are the Ranges of Spells/Powers/Abilities/Senses/etc.
Scarlet Witch's Existence Erasure as she erased the Darkhold in all the universes at once, the Watcher's Cosmic Awareness as he sees the totality of the Multiverse across all time and space, and regarding AP we have Alioth ending the Multiversal War between countless Low 1-C timelines and Infinity Ultron having statements of being a threat to all the universes and the Multiverse itself
 
According to Hannah Beachler, the production designer of the Black Panther movies, Dragon Flyers are indeed made with vibranium:

 
Did he destroy them barehanded or was it through the use of his spear?
He used his spear on practically all of them, though he did seemingly destroy a Dragon Flyer by throwing another one he disabled with his spear at it, and he also later threw another one that he slashed though with his spear so hard that it partially fragmented, then exploded. Not sure how much that counts for though.

It looks like a couple Dragon Flyers get shot down by Sanctuary II though.
 
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He used his spear on practically all of them, though he did seemingly destroy a Dragon Flyer by throwing another one he disabled with his spear at it,
I think he more or less just knocked it out of the air, since he did hit the second aircraft in the cockpit and the sudden added weight of the first aircraft and all that.

TBF the explosion could have been caused by its power source being compromised similar to what happened to Shuri's ship when Namor stabbed its power source.

The fragments on the other hand could have come from either the Dragon Flyer or the Snow Leopard's deck.
 
I think he more or less just knocked it out of the air, since he did hit the second aircraft in the cockpit and the sudden added weight of the first aircraft and all that.


TBF the explosion could have been caused by its power source being compromised similar to what happened to Shuri's ship when Namor stabbed its power source.

The fragments on the other hand could have come from either the Dragon Flyer or the Snow Leopard's deck
Good points. At least Sanctuary II and whatever scales should still be able to get a boost as far as I can tell.
 
Hannah: Claims Namor is stronger than Hulk
M'Baku and Ryan Coogler: Are we a joke to you?


At this point, I'd completely disregard any WoG statements that compare a new character to already-established high tiers, without the former having feats on a similar level or direct scaling to the latter in the actual media they are presented in
 
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Hannah: Claims Namor is stronger than Hulk
M'Baku and Ryan Coogler: Are we a joke to you?


At this point, I almost want to completely disregard any WoG statements that compare a new character to already-established high tiers without feats or direct scaling on a similar level
Agreed
 
According to Hannah Beachler, the production designer of the Black Panther movies, Dragon Flyers are indeed made with vibranium:


Is the entire thing Vibranium or is it a similar case to Ultron and their cars where they only have Vibranium shells while their internal components and circuitry are more fragile.

 
Is the entire thing Vibranium or is it a similar case to Ultron and their cars where they only have Vibranium shells while their internal components and circuitry are more fragile.

There doesn't seem to be anything that specifically confirms things either way, though having just a vibranium shell is probably the safer assumption.
 
For killing Thor? Definitely
No, in Quantumania.
9-A is only for Quantumania Kang's weakest energy blasts though? The flashback showed he had standard energy beams and it also showed he could charge up an omnidirectional energy blast. So who's to say he can't charge up his standard energy beams.
Alright Ig.
9-A (Vaporized people) up to 6-B (Harmed Giant Scott & Cassy), likely higher (Redirected Xolum's energy blast) with Energy Projection/Manipulation for his Quantumania self
Fair Ig, not sure if a Varies is necessary though. What did Xolum do?
 
Like if Wong and Strange had a spell which gave that level of AP to people, their magic would also have to be that strong,
Why would their spells be the same level though? Why would Wong's Spell scale to the one Strange Supreme cast?
meaning Strange Supreme would never have needed to absorb anything to begin with to pull off the reversal of the absolute point.
That was a spell cast by Strange Supreme after he had absorbed multiple magical creatures and himself though?
 
Why would their spells be the same level though? Why would Wong's Spell scale to the one Strange Supreme cast?
Carter's dura = Carter's AP, thus Wong + regular Strange's protection spell's energy = regular Strange's dura = pre-fusion Strange Supreme's AP. We know that regular Strange's AP added on top of Supreme Strange's AP gives him enough power to pull off the reversal of the absolute point. This means that all Supreme Strange would need to do to get the power to reverse an absolute point is absorb his other self and maybe Wong and none of those magical creatures.
 
So basically spell shouldn't scale to AP and Party Thor is a Low 1-C CHAD
Dormammu is 4D, Watcher sees him as fiction so he's 5D. Watcher's realm contains uncountably infinite 5D crystals, making it 6D. Infinity Ultron can warp the entire realm, making him Low 1-C. This scales to the following What If? peeps: all versions of Infinity Ultron, regular Strange, Supreme Strange, the Ancient One, both Captain Marvels, Party Thor, Dormammu and the guardians of the multiverse's amped dura and most importantly Hawkeye's arrow(s).
 
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Dormammu is 4D, Watcher sees him as fiction so he's 5D. Watcher's realm contains uncountably infinite 5D crystals, making it 6D. Infinity Ultron can warp the entire realm, making him Low 1-C. This scales to the following What If? peeps: all versions of Infinity Ultron, regular Strange, Supreme Strange, the Ancient One, both Captain Marvels, Party Thor, Dormammu and the guardians of the multiverse's amped dura.
Hawkeye's Arrow
 
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