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Follow up tweet says its being developed by Motive Studio
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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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Hope this will be better than the last Avengers game
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Oh thank god I didn't see that, it's in good hands then
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Same writer as Black Widow, one scooper stated that this was Black Widow 2.0 and was the movie he was least excited for
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No Zemo in Thunderbolts huh
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No Zemo, Abomination, Shocker, Bullseye, Hellcat, Diamondback, Elektra, or Punisher
Not even future villains like Attuma or The Hood. Or even characters not introduces yet like Songbird or Ghost Rider.
But hey, we've got Red Guardian, right?
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It's looking pretty uninteresting imo and the team is just boring to say the least we've got 4 super soldiers all of whom do the same thing part from taskmaster who can copy peoples fighting styles and we have ghost who so far has the most interesting and different abilities out of the group and then we have yelena who just does what the super Soldiers do just on a lesser level since she doesn't have powers...
I at least wanted Zemo and abomination
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Surprised Red Guardian of all people is joining. Then again, he was one of the better parts of the Black Widow movie, so I can see why they'd wanna bring him back. Plus, he looks like he'll be the closest thing this team will have to a comic relief...
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Gotta specify as well this isn't to say the characters themselves are uninteresting or that we'll get bland interactions however just skillwise and ability wise these guys pretty much are all the exact same which is gonna be boring when they have showcases and sorta all just have samey sorta fights or displays
Yeah that's a suprise but not too crazy I can kinda picture in my head how these guys will bounce off each other like banter wise
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For me its neither. I don’t care about any Marvel Character they decide to want to make a movie or show about. They can make a movie or show about the wimpiest, most obscure Marvel Character there is and I wouldn’t care that they did. What I care about is if the Story, Portrayal & Events of any character they do bring up is good (Subjective to me) and makes sense.
That goes for any CBM IP. I’m not one of these weirdos who is like, “Nobody asked for this!!”, etc. It truly doesn’t matter if anyone did or didn’t. I love comics. I love fiction. All I ask for is to be entertained. I like She-Hulk a lot. Her story is GREAT to me “so far”. Cameos are plus but not a make or break for my overall enjoyment of the series.
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Some stuff about Love and Thunder (posting this because it's a general thing for the MCU), notably about the Asgardians, taken from tv tropes that I find interesting.
"The portrayal of the Asgardians as actual gods (as has been pretty much the case since Thor: Ragnarok, but it's more unequivocal here) has been regarded as conflicting with their initial portrayal in the MCU as Sufficiently Advanced Aliens who were merely seen as gods by early humans, especially given Odin's insistence to Loki in Thor: The Dark World: "We are not gods. We are born, we live, we die. Just as humans do." However, there's a possible explanation here: it's indicated that they used to live in Omnipotence City with the other pantheons, but ended up having to leave for reasons unknown. Presumably, then, they started out as fully-fledged gods, equal to the others, but whatever it was that happened also cost them their immortality (give or take five thousand years). Odin was of the view that this meant they no longer counted as gods and shouldn't call themselves that; opinion evidently remains divided in-universe as to whether he was right.
Another possibility is that Odin got fed up with the hedonism his fellow gods displayed. It was previously shown that Odin used to be a conqueror, but eventually became (or tried to be) a wise protector. He might of renounced the title of god and his relations with Omnipotence City's gods as part of this shift."
"The portrayal of the Asgardians as actual gods (as has been pretty much the case since Thor: Ragnarok, but it's more unequivocal here) has been regarded as conflicting with their initial portrayal in the MCU as Sufficiently Advanced Aliens who were merely seen as gods by early humans, especially given Odin's insistence to Loki in Thor: The Dark World: "We are not gods. We are born, we live, we die. Just as humans do." However, there's a possible explanation here: it's indicated that they used to live in Omnipotence City with the other pantheons, but ended up having to leave for reasons unknown. Presumably, then, they started out as fully-fledged gods, equal to the others, but whatever it was that happened also cost them their immortality (give or take five thousand years). Odin was of the view that this meant they no longer counted as gods and shouldn't call themselves that; opinion evidently remains divided in-universe as to whether he was right.
Another possibility is that Odin got fed up with the hedonism his fellow gods displayed. It was previously shown that Odin used to be a conqueror, but eventually became (or tried to be) a wise protector. He might of renounced the title of god and his relations with Omnipotence City's gods as part of this shift."
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40$ dollars for Iron Man armors that are purely aesthetic skins.
My bet has been settled.
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Currently working on the Ammit profile, here's what I have for now
Tier: At least 5-B
Name: Ammit, Egyptian Deity, World's First Bogeyman, Boogeyman for Evildoers, Weird Crocodile Lady
Origin:
Gender: Female
Age: Thousands of years old
Classification: Deity, Egyptian Goddess, Ennead
Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Type 1 and 2), Bodily Weaponry (Claws, tail and jaws), Magic, Telepathy (Can see into the hearts of others, to judge if they are "balanced" or "unbalanced."), Absorption (Can take away the life force of people who have, or will, commit evil acts. Can devour souls), Empowerment (Gains strength from devouring souls), Size Manipulation (Was able to grow to gigantic size as she devoured unbalanced souls), Large Size, Power Bestowal (Granted Arthur Harrow a fraction of her power after having chosen him as her Avatar), Expert Combattant, Social Influencing
Attack Potency: At least Planet level (Fought evenly with Khonshu)
Speed: Massively FTL+ attack speed (Can keep up with Khonshu and react to his attacks)
Lifting Strength: Unknown
Striking Strength: Unknown
Durability: Unknown
Stamina: Unknown
Range: Extended melee range via sheer size
Standard Equipment: None notable
Intelligence: Gifted. Possesses high knowledge of Magic and supernatural forces. Able to convince others into serving her and her goals.
Weaknesses: Can be sealed into stone by the other Ennead. Can be killed if she's sealed in a mortal body.
Like I said, the main problem is the tier since she would have the same tier as Khonshu and Khonshu's tier is still discussed, Khonshu also has several unknown ratings
Tier: At least 5-B
Name: Ammit, Egyptian Deity, World's First Bogeyman, Boogeyman for Evildoers, Weird Crocodile Lady
Origin:
Gender: Female
Age: Thousands of years old
Classification: Deity, Egyptian Goddess, Ennead
Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Type 1 and 2), Bodily Weaponry (Claws, tail and jaws), Magic, Telepathy (Can see into the hearts of others, to judge if they are "balanced" or "unbalanced."), Absorption (Can take away the life force of people who have, or will, commit evil acts. Can devour souls), Empowerment (Gains strength from devouring souls), Size Manipulation (Was able to grow to gigantic size as she devoured unbalanced souls), Large Size, Power Bestowal (Granted Arthur Harrow a fraction of her power after having chosen him as her Avatar), Expert Combattant, Social Influencing
Attack Potency: At least Planet level (Fought evenly with Khonshu)
Speed: Massively FTL+ attack speed (Can keep up with Khonshu and react to his attacks)
Lifting Strength: Unknown
Striking Strength: Unknown
Durability: Unknown
Stamina: Unknown
Range: Extended melee range via sheer size
Standard Equipment: None notable
Intelligence: Gifted. Possesses high knowledge of Magic and supernatural forces. Able to convince others into serving her and her goals.
Weaknesses: Can be sealed into stone by the other Ennead. Can be killed if she's sealed in a mortal body.
Like I said, the main problem is the tier since she would have the same tier as Khonshu and Khonshu's tier is still discussed, Khonshu also has several unknown ratings
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Why doesn't khonshu have a “Unknown, possibly class Z” lifting strength for his moving the moon feat?
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I don't know if that's worth an entire thread but it should definitely be discussed, not only the tier but also the rest of the stats
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Just gonna throw this out there but considering khnuso didn’t even bother to use his spatial manipulation and just gave her the hands maybe his physically 4-a, just saying.
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I just hope the VFX team are getting paid major wagers as well as plenty of breaks because sheesh animators are among the most valuable yet mistreated workers in the entertainment industry.
I'm glad people are calling out the BS.
I'm glad people are calling out the BS.
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Nah, the only instance where he uses his spatial manip powers is when he needs help from his avatar so the 4-A tier is just via space manip
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True but wasn’t she still considered more then him or something?
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There's a tier 4 Thor CRT coming up and a possible Moon Knight deities CRT
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Stormbreaker and zeus' thunderbolt = necrosword >= zues >>> celestials > High 4-C - 4-B
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There is nothing that justifies 4-B
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Celestials creating all stars thus creating neutron stars
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Neutron stars aren't created. They're the result of a supergiant collapsing
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Yeah sorry i forgot
High 4-C then
High 4-C then
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There's plans to upgrade them to High 4-C because they should logically be the ones that create supergiant stars
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Well that escalated quickly
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I thought this was gonna be worst for a sec. Like that time somebody tried to say Tier 2 for Infinity Ultron was wanked when it clearly isn't
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