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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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Well now lets hope that he doesn't turned into another Malekith, this and the trailer give me a bright chance
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Method acting to match Jared Leto
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With difference: Leto is a virgin :v
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It weren't just gals.
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even better
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Hopefully gorr is better then the last two Thor villains
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Hela is a scary bitch tho
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Not as thicc as she was in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3
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You wrongfully added Hela (aka one of the best villains in the MCU)
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Not really, she’s pretty low tier in comparison to the higher tier villains. And she doesn’t have much depth to her from what I remember
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Thank god this version of Zeus is accurate to Greek mythology.
I mean, she has more depth than 95% of the MCU villains...
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Not really
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I don't know about 95% but she's definitely better than most of them. Like (takes a deep breath): almost all villains of AoS save for HIVE, Vanko, Laufey, Malekith, Ronan, the pathetic shitty Russian villain from BW, Rumlow, the villain girl from Falcon & WS (can't remember her name), Davos, Mitchum, the Defenders villains (ALL of them), JJ season 2 and 3 villains, Elektra, Mysterio, Blonsky, Kaecilius, taskmaster (aka how to completely waste a fantastic character), Alexander Pierce, Darren Cross, Yon-Rogg, the Supreme Intelligence, Justin Hammer, the Runaways villains (save for Morgan), etc
Seriously, Hela is VASTLY superior to the large majority of the villains in the MCU
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Also, something people should acknowledge, some villains DON'T NEED DEPTHS to be good. Morgoth from LOTR barely has any depths yet he's a fantastic villain. Iron Monger in the MCU isn't exactly a deep villain either yet he's a very good antagonist. Exdeath from FFV is literally just an evil sorcerer with an absolutely cliché evil laugh and is extremely good as well. Maleficent (the real one, not the one from the shitty live-action movie) is one of the best villains ever created by Disney (and to me THE best with Davy Jones), yet her motives are "I was insulted so I cursed a baby to death" at best and "I cursed a baby because I like to cause suffering" at worst.
You don't need your villain to have depths, you can make them power-hungry monsters who just want power/rule the world/kill for the sake of it without needing to give them depths or try to give them a tragic backstory (right Maleficent?) or good motives, you just have to make them interesting and memorable.
You don't need your villain to have depths, you can make them power-hungry monsters who just want power/rule the world/kill for the sake of it without needing to give them depths or try to give them a tragic backstory (right Maleficent?) or good motives, you just have to make them interesting and memorable.
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This
people forget this
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Not really, she’s pretty basic in the grand scheme of things. All she wants is the throne and that’s kinda just it. The only thing that might have given her a little more depth is her relationship with Thor
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Your not wrong(I’ve gotten gotten used to complex villains so that’s mb) but agian in comparison to high tier villains she just isn’t as good. I mean like ultron is both entertaining and has some depth to him. With him basically going straight to genocide on the human race after going on the internet for a few seconds(lol) but still justifying his actions and all that
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MCU Ultron sucks
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Not really, his just a bad adaptation
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Which means he sucks.
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Not if his a good character
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But I actually like that Ultron tho
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Something being a bad adaptation doesn't immediately mean it sucks
Imo adaptations should be judged by how well they adapt the source material and how well they do their own thing
Imo adaptations should be judged by how well they adapt the source material and how well they do their own thing
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Her name was Carli or Carly, its that name but don’t remember the spelling
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Either way the "one time generic MCU villain" trope needs to be toned down regardless, its getting beyond stale at this point and needs to be gradually weeded out imo. Thanos and Loki are the most popular MCU villains by a mile (both of which have appeared in multiple movies, go figure).
Who knows Love and Thunder might subvert the status quo and not kill off Gorr in the same movie he debuts in? (Unlike so many of his predecessors)Or perhaps this is just the hopeium speaking lol!
And yes we don't always need complex, multi-layered villains. I mean Frieza is a sadistic villain whose completely self-aware that he is evil, feared by many and he'll never change however he owns it, displays his power and shows some class while committing acts of pure evil (ohohohoho!) and BANG! you've got one of the most popular and iconic anime villains of all time (having a sleek as well as memorable design also helps too).
Anyway I digress... one more... ;-)
Who knows Love and Thunder might subvert the status quo and not kill off Gorr in the same movie he debuts in? (Unlike so many of his predecessors)
And yes we don't always need complex, multi-layered villains. I mean Frieza is a sadistic villain whose completely self-aware that he is evil, feared by many and he'll never change however he owns it, displays his power and shows some class while committing acts of pure evil (ohohohoho!) and BANG! you've got one of the most popular and iconic anime villains of all time (having a sleek as well as memorable design also helps too).
Anyway I digress... one more... ;-)
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Do you guys realize that Valkyrie using Zeus Weapon against Gorr? Is this mean Zeus would die?
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Justin Hammer > Hela
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A god dies in a movie with a ************ called the God Butcher in it?!
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Hell yeah.
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Big Brain Moment.
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Who the hell would rule over the rest of the Greek gods then? Hercules in a post-credits scene?
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Imagine the Batman vs Superman scene in BvS but with Thor instead of Batman.
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Stane > Every MCU Villain
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Bad Parents in MCU > Every MCU Villain
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