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Ok, I edited his draft, we can still change it later anyway
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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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The feat is currently baseline 4-A until we find a way to calculate it. If we decide to split it because the feat was performed by MK and Khonshu then they would be 4-B+
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Doesn't Moon Knight have a Faster than the Eye in this new episode
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Btw, how many episodes of MK are there for S1?
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Technically he does, since he was dodging a few bullets, should get a calc for that
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He also has the feat where he climb that structure faster than those guards who were surrounding him could see, also works as a stealth feat
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Actually yeah he's and gunpoint when he's
in casual clothes with a guy right on him and they literally lose sight of him only seeing his Moonknight attire atop that structure after asking where'd he go so yeah definitely FTE
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Funny how MK was originally just planned to be one series sticking to its own buisness and it has some of the best feats in the entire MCU
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Oh yeah just remembered that...that was cool
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Does someone want to calculate the solar eclipse scene? It would probably yield some good result since Khonsu done it in just a few seconds
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Jeez that's alot of spoiler tags lol!
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because the episode literally came out today
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But anyways, shouldn't Moony have Subsonic combat speed and reactions due to the bullet dodging and the fact that he blitzed a bunch of trained agents and instantly disarmed a thug who was threatening him with a knife?
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Causing an eclipse like that, especially that easily and that fast, is normally outright 5-A I think
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Just thought about something. The night sky feat happens after the meeting of the Gods and during said meeting, Osiris says this is not the first time Khonshu has altered the night sky. Unless we get something to prove the contrary, he apparently did it alone the first time. Given that he was banished by the Gods, maybe his banishment made him weaker than he originally was. So maybe he can get a key for his prime form and another for his actual weaker form if that's the case
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Unless MK has stellar level powers hidden in him...so long as Khonshu empowered him to do so Khonshu still legit has that feat Solid...he needed MK because well he could only do a little when he is not using avatars.
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So should he get two keys or get the same tier as the baseline feat?
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Since he is limited to what he can do without avatars he should get 2 keys
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Then one where he is "At least 5-A, 4-B" when weakened and one where he's outrught "4-A" at his prime
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Just finished ep 3 of moon knight, I’m starting to wonder if Odin’s star feat is really an outlier
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Fine by me
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The same here....That feat has always felt legit to me
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Why "At least 5-A, 4-B" and not just 4-B+?
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Boat load of assumptions here.
1.) “altering the night sky” is such a vague statement. That could mean a thousand different things. Do you have the exact statement on hand?
2.) Even if Khonshu has done a feat like this in the past, why would we just assume that he just did it on his own, if the one time we actually witness him preform the feat, he states that he needs help. Marc is not the only avatar he’s ever had.
3.) I really hope that last part is just speculation.
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Cause he needs help from his avatar to perform the night sky stuff so his baseline level would be the eclipse feat
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1) The scene literally shows them altering the entire night sky, shifting countless stars in instants to form a constellation, literally everybody else has agreed it's about completely altering the whole sky
2) Because Osiris clearly states he did it before and no mention is made of doing it as an avatar, so unless something comes to say he had an avatar to do it with him, then it's clear he did that by himself
3) ?
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You mean, the one where he transmutes Frigga into a constellation in Dark World?
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His 4-B+ AP already covers that. Since the feat is baseline 4-A you just have to divide it by two, so MK and Khonshu would be 4-B+ from a 4-A feat. The eclipse feat would only be supporting evidence
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Why divide it at all?while khonshu needed help it was still from his own power regardless. If anything he might have needed Steven’s because he can only affect the world up to a certain point(it seems) since his banishment
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Not every time someone alters the night sky are you moving every single star back to their previous places from thousands of years ago. When the other gods say that Khonshu has changed the night sky before that could mean moving the stars back a few decades or centuries.
We already have preexisting reason to believe Khonshu isn’t able to do it without the assistance of an avatar. Why would we assume that any mention of Khonshu doing it the past would automatically mean without having the assistance of an avatar.
I was referring to the part about a prime key.
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So he would be 4-B+ in his first key and that's it?
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Not everytime...some could just change the reflection of the stars in our sky to match what it was thousands of years ago but not in this case...Khonshu effortlessly caused an eclipse in less than 10 seconds so we know the movement of celestial bodies are involved and it was after that feat Osiris mentioned Khonshu's act of affecting the sky and warning him of an imprisonment should he repeat the action....and then Khonshu to save the world ignored the warning and moved a part of the milky way to get the constellation positiom and formation as it was thousands of years ago and this is not an illusionary feat because we can see Mark's Wife confirming the position of the stars from her tab and stellar constellation observation from any manmade technology deals with actual positions of stellar bodies so no this feat could not mean anything but what is has been described as since the review of this episode began.
Does it even matter....her empowers the avatars to be capable of doing such feat so it's still his powers, he needs avatar cause he has only limited influence in the mortal realm without an avatar.
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Except this is very much the case here. He does it in modern era and Osiris makes it clear this is not exceptional at all, he talks about it like something their kind can casually do, the only reason he's angry about it is because most of the pantheon has decided to act more indirectly and Khonshu refused, other than that everything indicates this is something the Gods can do without much problems
Because nothing indicates he had an avatar at the time he did it the first time. The Ennead decided to take avatars because they wanted to stop directly interferring with mortals but we have no proof that this was the case when he did that the first time
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That is only if we decide to split the feat, otherwise it would just be 4-A
That would still be 4-A
IMO yes
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