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Btw Khonsu should get Genius or Super genius intelligence since in episode 3 he know the stars position from 2000 years ago and he said that he memorize every night he had gone through, so photographic memory I guess
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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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how does that get it to 4-A?
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Here
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Khonshu: "I remember that night. I remember every night. I can turn turn back the night sky. It will come at a cost and I cannot do it alone."
He then proceeds to ask Steven to do the exact same motions, suits him up, as Steven states that his energy is fading away. Yes Osiris and the others mention Khonshu changing the sky before, but there's multiple ways one can "change the sky." Causing an eclipse (which the gods consider as changing the sky, btw a feat that Khonshu says is a signal the gods "can't ignore") is a vastly different feat than altering dozens of stars back to their previous location from 2,000 years ago.
He then proceeds to ask Steven to do the exact same motions, suits him up, as Steven states that his energy is fading away. Yes Osiris and the others mention Khonshu changing the sky before, but there's multiple ways one can "change the sky." Causing an eclipse (which the gods consider as changing the sky, btw a feat that Khonshu says is a signal the gods "can't ignore") is a vastly different feat than altering dozens of stars back to their previous location from 2,000 years ago.
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They say two things they say "change the sky" and "change the night sky" if I'm not mistaken
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I'm aware they use avatars. Khonshu didn't need Mark/Steven to do anything to cause the eclipse. With the star feat he explicitly asked Steven for help.
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but that is taking about whole solar systems, not individual stars.
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In that case, we could make him "At least 5-A (Casually caused an eclipse with his powers), 4-B/4-A via Spatial Manipulation with his avatar"
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He was moving the whole sky, not just the stars
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We can view a portion of the milky from earth's night sky alone.....and from the clip he lighted up the night which should be Light manipulation and we could see a huge portion of the galaxy
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Yeah watched it back a little yeah Konshu states he can't do it alone but again isn't that because he resides in the avatar and isn't there in his true form? We just need to really dissect the dialogue at the trial and before the night sky feat to definitely answer it
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Shouldnt he also have Light manipulation, he made the night sky brighter immediately he started
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Since the feat was made by two people, it would have to be divided by two. Since the feat is baseline 4-A, Khonshu would be 4-B+
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That’s what I’m trying to settle for, yes.
I don’t know too much about calcing, but khonshu’s feat should be calcable. We know the timetable for the feat, we know roughly the amount of stars as well as the distance they were moved.
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Further the justification "casually caused an eclipse in seconds"
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It’s not because he resides in the avatar. We see Khonshu perform similar feats without Steven/Marc. With the eclipse for example.
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Done
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MK should be noted as 4-B+ instead of 4-A in his draft
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Also, Moony's suit is completely bulletproof as bullets did zero effect to it, it didn't even tear it despite the fact that it's just cloth. And also, shouldn't he get a calc for when he was slightly reacting to bullets?
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I think it is not possible to calculate it since he was moving the sky at FTL speeds and KE cannot be used in those cases, and I don't know if there is any other way to calculate it. The feat is at least 4-A
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If the general feat is 4-A and it's from both, then it's 4-B for each one of them
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Anyone's analysis on that?
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I mean yeah I agree he's also at least superhuman running speed since he got to layla before the horse running at top speeds
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I mean the Khonshu provided the power for both feat because it's sheared doesnt mean he isnt the one providing the power, he just needed an avatar not like the avatar contributed to his powers.
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I mean, judging by the speed and the very scene, he moved much more stars than simply those seen before he makes the move
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So he should be above the speed of an average horse that can run.
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I’m pretty sure I saw bullet holes on the cape. I think the suit just… absorbs stuff tbh.
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Or he just doesn't feel pain or it doesn't really affect him?
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But either way, I think that feat is so weird that it's incalculable since it was being moved at absurd speeds that exceed way above the speed of light unimaginable times. So baseline 4-A should work out for it.
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Probably yeah at least above it's regular galloping speed
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Moon Knight has Immortality Type 2 so it's possible
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Uhm he really was bullet proof except he got impaled by normal humans...another proof for 9B marvel normal human
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Or both? The suit wasn’t torn at all after multiple spears were lodged through it. Plus Khonshu calls it the “healing armor” it’s be pretty weird if the so called healing armor couldn’t heal itself.
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So MK and Khonshu are both baseline 4-A and the feat itself is an "at least 4-A"? Or the feat is 4-A and they get "at least 4-B"
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Not sure why it should have an "at least", but even then the whole sky was affected
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But what option should we choose then?
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