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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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Khonshu: "I remember that night. I remember every night. I can turn turn back the night sky. It will come at a cost and I cannot do it alone."

He then proceeds to ask Steven to do the exact same motions, suits him up, as Steven states that his energy is fading away. Yes Osiris and the others mention Khonshu changing the sky before, but there's multiple ways one can "change the sky." Causing an eclipse (which the gods consider as changing the sky, btw a feat that Khonshu says is a signal the gods "can't ignore") is a vastly different feat than altering dozens of stars back to their previous location from 2,000 years ago.
 
This but on top of their conversation about their avatars and true forms you should look at that again they for sure have that power but choose to use a avatars and not reside in true forms or use that power to interfere with the world, so yeah the gods flat out scale
I'm aware they use avatars. Khonshu didn't need Mark/Steven to do anything to cause the eclipse. With the star feat he explicitly asked Steven for help.
 
I'm aware they use avatars. Khonshu didn't need Mark/Steven to do anything to cause the eclipse. With the star feat he explicitly asked Steven for help.
Yeah watched it back a little yeah Konshu states he can't do it alone but again isn't that because he resides in the avatar and isn't there in his true form? We just need to really dissect the dialogue at the trial and before the night sky feat to definitely answer it
 
In that case, we could make him "At least 5-A (Casually caused an eclipse with his powers), 4-B/4-A via Spatial Manipulation with his avatar"
That’s what I’m trying to settle for, yes.


There's also this calc about creating a starry sky, since Khonshu was moving it at FTL speeds I guess he can scale from it
I don’t know too much about calcing, but khonshu’s feat should be calcable. We know the timetable for the feat, we know roughly the amount of stars as well as the distance they were moved.
 
Yeah watched it back a little yeah Konshu states he can't do it alone but again isn't that because he resides in the avatar and isn't there in his true form? We just need to really dissect the dialogue at the trial and before the night sky feat to definitely answer it
It’s not because he resides in the avatar. We see Khonshu perform similar feats without Steven/Marc. With the eclipse for example.
 
Also, Moony's suit is completely bulletproof as bullets did zero effect to it, it didn't even tear it despite the fact that it's just cloth. And also, shouldn't he get a calc for when he was slightly reacting to bullets?
 
I don’t know too much about calcing, but khonshu’s feat should be calcable. We know the timetable for the feat, we know roughly the amount of stars as well as the distance they were moved.
I think it is not possible to calculate it since he was moving the sky at FTL speeds and KE cannot be used in those cases, and I don't know if there is any other way to calculate it. The feat is at least 4-A
 
Also, Moony's suit is completely bulletproof as bullets did zero effect to it, it didn't even tear it despite the fact that it's just cloth. And also, shouldn't he get a calc for when he was slightly reacting to bullets?
Anyone's analysis on that?
 
I think it is not possible to calculate it since he was moving the sky at FTL speeds and KE cannot be used in those cases, and I don't know if there is any other way to calculate it. The feat is at least 4-A
I mean, judging by the speed and the very scene, he moved much more stars than simply those seen before he makes the move
 
Also, Moony's suit is completely bulletproof as bullets did zero effect to it, it didn't even tear it despite the fact that it's just cloth. And also, shouldn't he get a calc for when he was slightly reacting to bullets?
I’m pretty sure I saw bullet holes on the cape. I think the suit just… absorbs stuff tbh.
 
I mean, judging by the speed and the very scene, he moved much more stars than simply those seen before he makes the move
But either way, I think that feat is so weird that it's incalculable since it was being moved at absurd speeds that exceed way above the speed of light unimaginable times. So baseline 4-A should work out for it.
 
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