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And it escalated quickly. Party Thor chopped off Ultron's arm (who regenerates it a second later with the Reality Stone so Low-Mid regen for him folks
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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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shouldn't he already have it via scaling above thanos and outsider who tanked fire?
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so we flat out see they aren't actually able to beat Ultron rather they were just supposed to seperate the stones which they did to get the victory but even so they should all have some sort of key with the armors they're given by strange at should be at most whatever rating is best I suppose
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That doesn't really change much it was that same way before
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I Thiit it refer to general difference Like Killmonger saving Tony
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Well Strange and Uatu saved the day together
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I wonder how Gamora destroyed Thanos
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This episode gave the elaboration needed for the questions we had about WoG saying "same universe being" with how they explained the stones and Ultron
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Prolly offguard attack with his blade idk
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ultron was so nerfed this episode really disappointing how easy he went down
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Dude literally wasn't nerfed at all he literally threw out a casual galaxy busting blast, strange just amped his team and they separated the stone's weakening him only part way through the fight
Edit: also is was Ultron who was missing the soul stone who did the galaxy busting blast casually too soo
what nerf exactly?
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He wasn'r so much as nerfed as he was arrogant to the extreme and underestimated the "team"
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and it was a horrible explanation the crusher can't destroy the stones because they aren't the "same" from her universe yet the stones can work in any universe
strange and ultron were both using thier own time stones in a different universe
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So will Strange get upgrade for his second key? (also he should get resistance to time)
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And once again, the Soul Stone, wich could be the most interesting of all, is at the center of the plot (briefly) but NOTHING is shown about its powers even though this was the perfect occasion to do it!
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Explanation made perfect sense the power of stones can be used in any universe but the specific makeup of her stones differs from Ultrons since they aren't from the same parent universe.
WoG literally explains this your complaints are kinda arbitrary and nitpicky for stuff that makes sense
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Still think this is the case honestly
(and yes, I know about the Russos's statement, don't need to bring up the old debate)
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He should yes
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Also can't believe we have to say this but once again it has never been established stones can't work outside of their own universe not in the MCU
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I thought it was understood by everyone already?
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someone with 6 infinity stones should be able to throw out a casual universal blasts but that's not my point he was extremely underwhelming this episode he was getting ragdolled by captain carter and natasha at one point and running at human level speeds lol
he just lacks imagination this episode he could just mind control them and be done with it yet his solution is to just throw out energy blasts
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Black Widow harmed Loki and Captain America fought einherjar.
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I really hate when people immediately go with the "bUt In thE cOmIcs" argument when nothing was ever stated in the movies/one shots/series
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It isn't even an thing in the comics that was litterally just an non Canon crossover
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They were literally all amped what's there that's underwhelming or not understood
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Notice how everyone who strange amps is like gawking when they are under his spell and then they are able to just eat hits from the stones and damage Ultron I mean this shouldn't be controversial to say but they were amped and literally made note of that so it's no surprise they looked like they were keeping up with Ultron
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I'll admit though, the part where Ultron gets ragdolled by everyone and can barely react is a bit ridiculous. I know they were amped and he was weakened but tsill, should have been using more of the Stones's powers
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Strange should definitely get an enormous upgrade though. Like, really
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This I can say is a very fair point but it's no different from how Thanos also is unable to actually act when he has the stones but can't actually focus enough to use them because he's getting attacked from multiple combatants
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it was a protection spell according to strange he didn't say anything about them getting amped to ultron or his level
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If tehy weren't amped then strange and Thor would have one shotted ultron since even widow damaged him
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They got literal "PLOT ARMOR" from Doctor Drip Supreme of course they'd keep up with Chadtron
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He indeed does say that but I implore you to look at the spell when it's cast on each if them u even see it makes weapons over their own it's clearly just strange amping them
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It's a bit less ridiculous for Thanos as he does react and fight back
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PLOT MANIPULATION STRANGE SUPREME: CAN GIVE PLOT ARMOR TO OTHERS
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