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In this case, pretty sure GoW fits the "infinite 5-D space"
But let's stop the derailment now
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Mcu Loki Season 2 Finale Upgrade(Spoiler Warning)
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But let's stop the derailment now
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So which one here does Loki qualify for, to get back into topic?
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I think a power set of a Low 2-C space is infinite 5D.
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Huh, so Loki is also infinite 5D.
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I agree with the CRT
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I agree with the crt too uwu 
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Is pre-amp for before he learns to time skip in episode 5, or before he masters time control in episode 6?
In episode 5 they make a big deal of the “it’s not where or when, it’s who” aspect of his time travel. Was there any point where Loki performed a controlled time skip without traveling to one of his friends? If not, does he need that added as a weakness, or can we just assume that he learnt to do it, given how much control he gains over other aspects of time manipulation?
In episode 5 they make a big deal of the “it’s not where or when, it’s who” aspect of his time travel. Was there any point where Loki performed a controlled time skip without traveling to one of his friends? If not, does he need that added as a weakness, or can we just assume that he learnt to do it, given how much control he gains over other aspects of time manipulation?
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Fun fact: Loki did infinity kg dumble fly 
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Insane how he went from a humbled man who wanted to save the TVA by stablising the loom to... the God of Stories? Anyways, I knew this was coming sooner or later. I wholeheartedly agree with this.
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I thought tome travel through speed was just one way to prove it, FMC got immeasurable speed specifically because of two characters able to physically move outside the confines of time, but okay
What power would that be tho? He was just moving normally, literally just walking
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If it isn't clear
I agree
I agree
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Moving outside time or in a timeless place doesn't give anything.
Immeasurable speed is explicitly for moving through time via sheer speed.
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This is Platform creation
Also we should discuss what Loki's new speed rating would be. Weather it should be kept the same or changed to unknown.
Extraordinary genius or maybe even supergenius as Loki learnt everything Oroboros knows, which would includes tem pads, the loom and whatever magic nullifying tech tva uses alongside every other piece of super tech the tva has
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Op make sense
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This seems fine
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Seriously shouldn't Tree Loki have some form of acausality at this point? (Also the implications of Loki manipulating time in a place where the time stones are mere paper weights is wild but that's for a future CRT methinks).
Anyways I agree.
Anyways I agree.
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He definitely should get Acausality, though the specifics of which one he'd get to would need to be determined.
Planck should be able to help you out.
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I guess we could say his attack speed is immeasurable. Not sure able about travel speed
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If travel speed isn't immeasurable then unknown would be my second choice
I've always wanted to know the minimum size of a 5d space to be termed significant. So it starts from universal. Thanks
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Minor nitpick, but it was centuries, not just a century.
Everything else looks good to me, I agree.
Also shouldn't Loki have Acausality? I'm not an expert on that ability, but I feel like he should have it.
Oh, and the final scene implies that Loki is aware and watching events that are transpiring within the timelines. What would that be, Clairvoyance, Cosmic Awareness, or something else?
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Yes, but exactly which type needs to be discussed first, personally I think type 1 and 4 work.
Type 4 cause he seems to work on a different system of causality/time. Since, he can time travel in a timeless place which should be impossible according to multiple characters including Ouroboros who is a supergenius himself and also he can go in and outside of time.
Cosmic awareness I guess
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Resistance to Radiation and EE?
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Something about ripping you apart and spaghettication
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"Your suit with age away, you will age away, and you will get very old and all your skin will get peeled away and you will die"
-Ouroboros to Mobius
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So Deconstruction then? Actually it might be Age Manip too, not sure.
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• Deconstruction
• Age Manipulation
Anything else noteworthy?
• Age Manipulation
Anything else noteworthy?
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This is not exactly correct.
It's not moving "through time", it's being able to move in such a way that time lost meaning.
If we define time as the progression of events in a linear fashion, an immeasurable speed character can completely ignore said progression. Their attacks can happen "out of order" in relation to these linear events (most straightforward application being to attack someone in the past so that through chain reaction in regards to causality, they are affected in the present). This is the reason they are effectively untouchable even to infinite speed characters, as infinite speed still follows the linear progression of time, although in 0 seconds. The event, from their perspective, is still the present. Immeasurable speed completely bypasses that, "the present" is meaningless.
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isn’t time irrelevant for Loki so would he qualify
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Time being irrelevant to someone isn't an immeasurable feat. For the same reason Dormammu, Watcher or Infinity Ultron isn't immeasurable.
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Time isn’t irrelevant to dormammu the dark dimension just has no time in it bro literally got negged by a time stone
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As Qawsedf said, but to make it a lil more elaborate:
Time being irrelevant is not the same as treating the linear progression of time by sheer movement as irrelevant.
The first is a state of being or quality not inherently relevant to ones ability to act. For example, Professor Paradox from Ben 10 treats time as irrelevant, since he exists outside of it. He still isn't immeasurable, as he follows a linear progression of events, despite his timelessness. His actions can be measured, he exists in a state of constant "now". He is, therefore, acausal and not immeasurable.
Contrast what Professor Paradox can do with a proper immeasurable instance like Anos' Venuzdonoa sword, which completely breaks causality, to the point that before even being swung, it already cut you down.
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Basically to get Immeasurable speed you need to do this:
1. Treat time as a spatial plane to waltz on. You should be able to walk back and forth through any point in time, like say, quick-dash to the beginning of time, then to the end of time, and so on and so forth. You need to be able to travel through time with nothing but sheer speed, no time travel bullshit powers allowed.
2. You need to be able to land attacks and ignore causality altogether. You need to be able to dodge attacks already struck, and strike someone before you yourself launch an attack.
1. Treat time as a spatial plane to waltz on. You should be able to walk back and forth through any point in time, like say, quick-dash to the beginning of time, then to the end of time, and so on and so forth. You need to be able to travel through time with nothing but sheer speed, no time travel bullshit powers allowed.
2. You need to be able to land attacks and ignore causality altogether. You need to be able to dodge attacks already struck, and strike someone before you yourself launch an attack.
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Isn't this what Loki did basically? He was legitimately just moving across multiple timelines and grabbing the threads from different points (if those threads represent timelines, he was effectively holding it at different time points as he grabbed and pulled them)
But if that's wrong, what would Loki's movement be? Unknown?
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I watched the episode, and now I can say I agree with everything. I believe that there are some stuff that should be added, like Acausality and some stuff about his Time Manipulation, but this can be added later on down the line in another CRT to not make this one too bloated.
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