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MCU: High 6-A/5-C Upgrades

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Dalesean027 said:
Why would it captain marvel handled thanos pretty seriously and wanda was far stronger than him and is the only one comparable to cm
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Because he physically fought with and contended with her. She only began to overpower him when she went all glowey which I guess is Binary. Do note that she overpowered Thanos by flying towards him while he himself only used 1 hand to stop her.
He also took multiple hits and blasts from her with little to no injury
By the wiki's standards he should scale
 
Propellus said:
5-C is too much though
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Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
Because he physically fought with and contended with her. She only began to overpower him when she went all glowey which I guess is Binary. Do note that she overpowered Thanos by flying towards him while he himself only used 1 hand to stop her.
He also took multiple hits and blasts from her with little to no injury
By the wiki's standards he should scale
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Nah we discussed this to hell and back she hadn't used binary that entire fight but I'm not gonna argue it here only the fact that she's dominated him but sure I suppose they'd downscale
 
Also this is off topic but Thanos did create a Black Hole in his fight against Doctor Strange.
Obviously it wouldn't scale to anyone but Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet but it is worth mentioning.
 
Dalesean027 said:
Kevin Feige on Thanos: “So, within the first five minutes of ‘Infinity War’ people will understand why Thanos is the biggest and baddest villain in the history of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.”

There's also this statement from Joe Russo: “It was always the intent, in a larger arc, to split the Avengers up before the greatest threat that they’ve ever seen. Thanos is a virtually indestructible character, which makes him an extremely difficult character to fight.”


This would logically include Surtur as well not just ignoring the fact that Thor got stormbreaker in Infinity War so nothing stops that from scaling above surtur when the weapon is still relevant to as a powerhouse in Odin's eyes and Rocket's eyes and etc.
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I mean that's defo hyperbole unless we're going for Thanos > Dormmammu as a viable meta. I can live with High 6-A+ Stormbreaker though and I do recall some other stuff implying this level of power works
 
Hellbeast said:
I mean that's defo hyperbole unless we're going for Thanos > Dormmammu as a viable meta. I can live with High 6-A+ Stormbreaker though and I do recall some other stuff implying this level of power works
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I mean that's not really a relevant arguement I made then the discussion has changed a lot since then and the High 6-A arguement is ultimately what we're going for with much more solid evidence
 
What are the updates to the thread? Seems that KLOL has said just about everything I wanted to say while I was asleep so there's no need to repeat his points.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
What are the updates to the thread? Seems that KLOL has said just about everything I wanted to say while I was asleep so there's no need to repeat his points.
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Well there's new stuff since KLOLs initial post the OP is updated with it
RoTt35 said:
The Tesseract
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RoTt35 said:
Captain Marvel
  • WoG states: “With Captain Marvel, who has powers that approach a level that we haven’t seen before in our films, you need to counter-balance that by finding somebody who is also very human and very relatable and can get into a groove with the audience, where they’re willing to see her fly through the sun and punch a moon away from a spacecraft". Knocking the moon out of orbit is High 6-A.
  • Captain Marvel performed a High 6-A feat in What If...?
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This is a pretty solid case for high 6-A imo since these two things are hand and hand
 
Also the for the What if? feat for Captain Marvel, I'm pretty sure we've gone through this already, but we still have no reason to use this What if? scaling, and I don't see any new arguments on why we should?
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Also the for the What if? feat for Captain Marvel, I'm pretty sure we've gone through this already, but we still have no reason to use this What if? scaling, and I don't see any new arguments on why we should?
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Yeah I still hate What If scaling since it'll give us stuff like Mandarin = Odin and we're better off using the base MCU
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Also the for the What if? feat for Captain Marvel, I'm pretty sure we've gone through this already, but we still have no reason to use this What if? scaling, and I don't see any new arguments on why we should?
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We're not it's just show consistency with captain marvel scaling above the tesseract and her feige statement of being able to punch the moon away which is high 6-A for moving the moon out of orbit as well consistent with the tesseracts 6-A since she was empowered by it
 
Dalesean027 said:
We're not it's just show consistency with captain marvel scaling above the tesseract and her feige statement of being able to punch the moon away which is high 6-A for moving the moon out of orbit as well consistent with the tesseracts 6-A since she was empowered by it
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It's still somethings that's not even canon though, it shouldn't be used to just help justify the main topic.

Also the Korath about Thanos > Carol is weird considering we know that's wrong, but Thanos should downscale from carol to some extent
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
It's still somethings that's not even canon though, it shouldn't be used to just help justify the main topic.
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I mean what if is canon but that aside it's not even primary justification it's very much secondary and doesn't affect the stuff prior that said give your opinions on that stuff as well this part isn't that big a deal tbh.

So like can we focus on the actual main stuff from that and not nitpick that one part cause like we get it.

Hope that doesn't sound rude either
 
Do Vision level characters scale to 1.4 exatons? Or nah considering Vision never had the full potential of the Mind stone.
 
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