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Doubtful considering people's opinions on that specifically
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MCU: High 6-A/5-C Upgrades
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I guess Moon level? He'd probably consider Stormbreaker to be above the Hadron Enforcer. But then again, Stormbreaker has a varies mechanism so I'm not sure tbh.
9 exatons is referring to 1995 Captain Marvel right?
We should probably add another key for her, so to make things less confusing.
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Mjolnir should also be 5-c at bare minimum tbh
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Carol Got more powerful in the 20+ years before infinity war
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And Thanos and friends would scale to this value correct?
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Why are you making another key for her?
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According to the MCU Science Adviser, Stormbreaker channels Thor's power like Mjölnir
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And we still have the power stone scaling that I am not giving up on
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Are Thor's beginning of Ragnarok key and Hulk's post-Sakaar training key going to be brought back?
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Scaling purposes (1995 Captain Marvel < Thanos < 2018-2023 Captain Marvel)
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Hulks post Sakaar key was removed? What?
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Oh shit why was it removed?
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Because people weren't a fan about the gap between Hulk and awakening Thor.
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I think the key was seen as no longer needed when the Awakened Thor-tiers started just upscaling from Phase 1-2 Thor feats.
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Feel a bit iffy on the rest of them scaling in infinity war I think its fine for endgame but infinity war just seems kinda meh especially because of Surtur's 120ish petaton suicide that we know thor and weakened hela didn't scale to but once Thor got stormbreaker I'm fine with that being 6-A he already has that with the bifrost this just solidifies that entirely but for sakaar hulk and early ragnarok thor I don't think that works at all
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Ok but what is the evdince for her getting stronger exactly?
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Via statements, Korath and Ronan knew about the power of Captain Marvel in 1995 but in 2014 they considered Thanos has the most powerful being in the universe, and we already know what happened between Captain Marvel and Thanos in Endgame. Also in 1995 she unleashed her true power for the first time, and there is also the time gap
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It doesn't really create problems considering Thanos literally Off-screens Awakened Thor
All the Pre-Infinity War Top Tiers would still scale to 6-B
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Yeah as long as Thanos is above those in infinity war aside from stormbreaker Thor because he no diffs everyone and as you said offscreened Thor at the beginning of IW
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I'm pretty sure that would only apply to Infinity War and beyond Top Tiers.
Going off memory alone they have no reason to scale
Also i'm collecting all my evidence for 5-C RN
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That’s very sus especially when you factor other things into iw/endgame stuff
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What's Sus about it?
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I’ll explain my thoughts later, imma hit the hay
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Via Rocket's statement, the lower 6-B tiers of Mjolnir and Stormbreaker would become 5-C
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Why are we using rockets statement for stormbreaker scaling with staff having already expressed their discontent with it
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Eh only Mjolnir post Endgame would scale imo
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Because it's not that big of an Upscale.
The feat Carol could pull off 20+ years ago is 9 Exatons baseline Moon Level is 29.6 Exatons.
We already know both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker scale above there wielders so it's not to hard to imagine that the weapons' make up for that 3x AP gap
Also now that I've said this does moon level Thanos seem so hard to believe?
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I don't see a reason why base Mjolnir shouldn't scale.
Rocket's statement was made in IW / pre-Endgame. Even Odin stated that base Mjolnir's power has no equal (prior to giving it the worthiness enchantment). Base Mjolnir is clearly established as a super powerful Nidavellir weapon
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Because it opens up the possibility of Tier 5 Phase 1 and two which really creates some circular scaling issues since that implies Mjolnir scales to Thanos who is > Awakened Thor who's > Phase 1 and 2 Thor
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Ronan being so mid but so strong
I think Drax's knives harm Ronan too so it's wild but could line up
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Can you clarify how so?
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We should only scale Infinity war Mjolnir and Stormbreaker to 5-C.
There problem solved
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Because if we go by this logic that would imply Mjolnir has always been > Moon Level which means it harming Thanos isn't just a quirk of Thor's growth and Mjolnir really has just been Tier 5 from the start, meaning anyone who survives the hammer's strike is in that range too. To say nothing of how hat means Hela is > Moon Level and statements would imply she's sub Thanos at that point but then there's Mjolnir harming Thanos
This is what I'm saying works better consistency wise and we've been doing this a while
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This but at the same time I'm more onboard with the high 6-A than the outright 5-C stuff which I'm neutral on aside from the obvious ronan stuff so I won't speak on this
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Maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't really understand this
Thor's growth is still a factor, that's why Mjolnir has the Varies rating. Endgame Mjølnir was powerful enough to harm Thanos because it was as powerful as Endgame Thor, who is still capable of briefly holding his own against Thanos
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Yeah I get that, I do feel 5-C would be a good tier but I'll think on which works better
And by this logic it's always been on that level of power, which is whack consistency wise.
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