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OP was legit trying to apply the changes without even a positive conclusion?Everyone calm down now, stop with the insults and take a breather in regards to the regen stuff.
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OP was legit trying to apply the changes without even a positive conclusion?Everyone calm down now, stop with the insults and take a breather in regards to the regen stuff.
Buddy character can think and act with sources which are fundamental concepts which also stores ones Existence via memories which are abstact information which forms the building blocks of one's Existence.The only part of the thread I’m neutral on is the high godly regen, the rest of it I agree, including the information type 2 since it’s insufficient for it being info hax
Why don't you explain how information type 1 gives you Regeneration?@EldemadeDityjon none of the scans you have for info hax really tells me anything on it being literal type 2 information.
Lmao? See the topic, the description says that it is a continuation of the previous topic, because it was not finished, and the topic in the link of the one I posted is the same one that you posted. Literally said that the topic was not finished, nor fully decided, what I posted and the continuation of what you posted.a thread being terminated means it's not rejected tho, second that's a much older thread compared to what I posted, which again the arguments applied over to the concept page as we clearly see.
Because 3 to 1 is acceptable for voting.I am not understanding but OP said its 2 disagreement for 1 agreement regarding HGR, how it is only one more vote?
Who agreed ? Have you even waited for dereck to comment on this ? DDM also Disagrees maveric literally said neutral. This thread hasn't been active for 2 days. Nice way to push it without consulting staff who are knowledgeable for their own profit.@ImmortalDread she's only applying stuff that's been accepted.
@Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara you might need one more staff input on the regen for that to be applied since I'm neutral on the whole thing.
Fair enough. I'll make a followup thread after the edits are done, unless other staff members want to comment or change their minds.@Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara you might need one more staff input on the regen for that to be applied since I'm neutral on the whole thing.
? I see 3:2 in her profile. And this goes against multiple policiesBecause 3 to 1 is acceptable for voting.
2:2. Maverick didn't say fully agreed. OP literally trying to push it.Because 3 to 1 is acceptable for voting.
Off-topic but fujiwara’s a girl??!!!!!!@ImmortalDread she's only applying stuff that's been accepted.
Dereck's or content mods votes do not count in Content revision threads? I see 3:2 in her profile. And this goes against multiple policies
- Staff members and trusted knowledgeable members who do not have content revision thread evaluation rights are still encouraged to provide their insights and observations regarding suggested revisions.
@EldemadeDityjon that's still agreeing, otherwise Maverick would’ve just said neutral.
this isn't an agreement.Neutral, leaning towards agreeing with the OP.
- In cases where the series verse has a significant following or a large amount of material has been published based on its content, it may be necessary to seek approval from a minimum of three staff members to ensure that all relevant parties are aware of and agree with the proposed revisions. However, it is important to note that this requirement should not be interpreted as a guarantee that the proposed revisions will be approved if a minimum of three staff members have given their approval. In cases involving big or controversial changes, or in situations where a verse is one where many of our staff members are knowledgeable, it may be advisable to involve as many staff members as possible in the review and approval process. This requirement is in place to ensure that revisions to popular or widely-recognized series verses are thoroughly reviewed and approved by a sufficient number of individuals with the necessary expertise and knowledge.
Topic I posted: It is a continuation of the topic you showed, and newer than yours (started in December 2021 and ended in 2022, yours started in September 2021 and ended in the same month), and also your topic and said to be a continuation of the incomplete topic you posted.a thread being terminated means it's not rejected tho, second that's a much older thread compared to what I posted, which again the arguments applied over to the concept page as we clearly see.
My arguments are the conversations between the admins and other users, the topic and conversations that decided how the CM works, being just things accepted by the admins and users themselves, yours is just an unfinished topic that was created a continuation to clarify more about the CM.@Dog3352 so you’re not going to address how the thread I linked has it’s arguments repeated in the page, ok.
3:2 is good enough, yes. Glass has already called staff, so if none of them are interested in evaluating this, then there's not much to do but accept the votes we have now.Also, this is involving big or controversial changes to the verse, 2:2 is not definitely enough for applying any changes.
Fuji, I feel there is vote manipulation right now, give it up or I will move this to RvR3:2 is good enough, yes. Glass has already called staff, so if none of them are interested in evaluating this, then there's not much to do but accept the votes we have now.
Multiple people here stated that her stance is not clear, therefore neutral stance. You can't take it as a full agreement to every downgrade. It is 2:2Vote manipulation is when you count the votes normally, I guess. Glass already told you the votes are fine as they are.
I'm choosing the include only staff votes since they are the only ones deciding anything here.Also, I would request from you to count blue names in your OP.
Her stance is "leaning agree" so I counted it as agreement. It is more in favor of the downgrade than against it. She's free to correct me or say if she's changed her opinion if she wants.Multiple people here stated that her stance is not clear, therefore neutral stance. You can't take it as a full agreement to every downgrade. It is 2:2
- If a disagreement arises between staff members during the evaluation of a content revision thread, it is important to seek the input and guidance of additional staff members in order to reach a fair and unbiased decision. This may involve seeking the opinion of higher-ranked staff members, or consulting with staff members who possess specific expertise or knowledge related to the revision in question. The final decision on the approval of a content revision should be based on a thorough and unbiased evaluation of the suggested changes and their impact on a verse.
Dread's vote should hold weigh here. She's very knowledgable with Maou Gakuin similarly to dereck
- Input from highly respected members of the community, such as experts on the topic, should be taken into consideration when determining the necessary level of review and approval.
May be she is just scared that only glass & planks support her claim & other staff might disagree.Not sure why she was rushing.
Elizha has been constantly involved with many of the MG threads he/she is definitely more knowledgeable than any staff who agreed with OP. He/she should be pinged too.Dread's vote should hold weigh here. She's very knowledgable with Maou Gakuin similarly to dereck
And seeing there are staff disagreement between staff it would need more additional staff members.
Calling Celestial Pegasus might help here since he is very knowledgable and familiar with this verse and similar verses.
again rushing revision is never suggested
The second and third, it is said that a concept that has no specification (example in the conversation itself), is more likely to be a type 3 CM."So that we're clear: We agree that changing an abstraction in a fashion that affects reality is not Type 1 or 2, unless said abstraction has demonstrated being the fundamental source of a property?"
"Yeah sure, I guess."
"It would make it easier to classify cases where it is not very clear whether they are Type 1 or 2 concept manip, though. Not all fiction is very clear on the matter. Concepts (or other abstractions) frequently are manipulated without really explaining what their nature is in deta
This is literally a direct confirmation that the concept does not need to have universal scale in order to be CM type 1 or 2, saying that something like "universal AoE" is not necessary (making it very clear that universal AoE or universal scale is not required to be type 2 or 1)."What would your alternative suggestion regarding Type 3 be?"
"I still think about keeping type 3 for some kind of safe zone. For example, a character name Toujo Basara, he is said to have a conceptual attack, but nothing more than that; and Siren from Azur Lane, they said that they can control the very fundamental, concept part of the pocket dimension they create, but nothing more than that, and we can't just assume they automatically govern reality universally. Or Tobio from Highschool DxD, he can destroy the concept of magic."
"That's what I meant."
Extra proof: This confirmation has a link that goes straight to the revisions, in the penultimate and ante-penultimate changes (revisions), they take out words like "govern the universe" or "govern reality", taking out universal scales, and replacing them with words like "govern reality in all its area" or "govern reality in all area that the concept governs" (making it clear once again that you don't need universal AoE to be CM type 2 or 1).
I don't like the ""universal"" label. Its gives a strong impression that range/AoE is the prime factor in deciding the type of concept. I am sure we pretty much agreed that range/AoE is a complete non-factor in deciding the Type/Nature of Concept.
You need to wait till @Theglassman12 pings the relevant staff members and then change the edits. Only because the thread dies, does not give you any right to apply any changes.I can drop HGR for now and just make a thread on that later. I'll continue waiting for staff and probably just apply the edits over the weekend if nobody shows up.
No, that would be a headache. It's better to find a solution for that here and it will make things much easier and quickI can drop HGR for now and just make a thread on that later
We're 4 pages into this thread and HGR wasn't even discussed until page 3-4. It would be easier to make a new thread recompiling the relevant information for the sake of understanding.No, that would be a headache. It's better to find a solution for that here and it will make things much easier and quick
...Yeah, I said I would wait. But my patience isn't infinite, and I could apply the changes tonight if I wanted to. It has nothing to do with the thread dying.You need to wait till @Theglassman12 pings the relevant staff members and then change the edits. Only because the thread dies, does not give you any right to apply any changes.
Also, there are still open arguments here.