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Shouldn't Saitama upscale from Class E of ENO?Well, anyways I'll just put this here
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Shouldn't Saitama upscale from Class E of ENO?Well, anyways I'll just put this here
Is there any reason aside from "Well, I can't imagine Saitama not lifting Evil Ocean Water"?Shouldn't Saitama upscale from Class E of ENO?
Saitama already scales to things he doesn't have a scaling to. I don't see why this should an expectionIs there any reason aside from "Well, I can't imagine Saitama not lifting Evil Ocean Water"?
Well then let's remove those other bits of scaling instead.Saitama already scales to things he doesn't have a scaling to. I don't see why this should an expection
I support an evidence-based approach way, way more than a narrative / intention-based approach. At best Saitama gets a "possibly" considering the lack of feats and the nature of how EOW is getting its rating in the first place.Not scaling Saitama above everyone is ingnoring the intention of the series.
There's no indication he can lift ENO at the moment. You just have to weight for the baseflip and use that for his rating.Shouldn't Saitama upscale from Class E of ENO?
Garou, Resonance MB, SC and ENW scaling to High 6-B is fine.Sage Centipede becomes high 6-B via this calculation. Garou and Metal Bat with Fighting Spirit (or synergy?) scale to half of it or fully as they were able to severely damage his body. To add more proof, in chapter 157, Sage Centipede thinks Garou is too strong and even needs to take a hostage. Evil Natural Ocean scales to High 6-B as well since it was able to harm him. And it can cause High 6-A Environmental Destruction.
I don't see why the Ninja Pair would downscale to High 7-A+. They were still capable of harming Flahsy, he just didn't use his true speed against them but that doesn't negate durability.In chapter 155, Garou stomps ground and sends thousands of rocks flying. It yields 5.4 Gigatons. Flashy Flash, Platinum Sperm, Ninja Bros, Bang, Elder Centipede, and Bang already have scaling to that so I will not give any reasoning. The only difference is that Ninja Bros will downscale to the previous tier.
Being splattered into pieces is not a feat for durability.Evil Natural Water should downscale as well since it was able to tank multiple attacks from enraged Garou without dying.
They don'tProbably the most controversial part of this CRT. We should discuss whether Metal Bat and Sage Centipede scale to Garou or not.
They aren't. Stop trying to push for this. Not only is it inconsistent, the feats themselves completely break the speed scalingThere is the stuff about wheter G-4 and G-5's lasers are light speed or not and whether it is an outlier for Genos and AS or not.
AG doesn't react at FTL speeds. He dodges before hand, its precog dodging. "But how did Orochi hit him?" because Orochi's horns can change directions and since they're much faster than AC he cannot dodge it a second time. The reason why he could avoid Genos' attacks was because they were all linear and couldn't change directions, Orochi's horns do not have that issue.There is also a discussion about FTL Orochi. Awakened Cockroach makes a statement about the speed of light and later on Orochi kills him before he can react
We don't scale LS to a striking strength feat for the same reason why don't find speed from AP.Can it be attributed to LS that Saitama pushed a huge amount of water with his punch?
Only when they attacked him at the same time. When they attacked individually, they could only knock him back and that didn’t even work sometimes.They were still capable of harming Flahsy
True, but again we still treat giving someone scratch damage as scaling in some capacity like with MCU Iron Man's 6-C key.Only when they attacked him at the same time. When they attacked individually, they could only knock him back and that didn’t even work sometimes.
Tony heavily downscales from Thanos though, and he didn’t just scratch him, he was staggering him with a combo of blows.True, but again we still treat giving someone scratch damage as scaling in some capacity like with MCU Iron Man's 6-C key.
Something they did to Flashy individually though. Or something Hellfire did at least.he didn’t just scratch him, he was staggering him with a combo of blows.
Tony after a prolonged fight with other like Strange.And that’s Tony by himself,
Yeah, but then there’s also the time where Flash wasn’t even moved by one of Hellfire’s combos.Something they did to Flashy individually though. Or something Hellfire did at least.
Yeah I was gonna bring that up too. Hulk’s performance against Thanos is pretty similar to the ninja fight now that I think about it. Hulk/Hellfire+Gale could knock around Thanos/Flash, but as soon as Thanos/Flash started trying for real, they ended the fight easily.But I guess if we scale MCU Hulk to High 7-A+, then then being High 7-A+ isn't that wild.
Also that reminds me we probably could upgrade the ninjas human form to At least High 7-C, possibly Low 7-B since they did manage to do some damage to Brave Giant in the redraw while being in human form as well as tank Brave Giant’s Gigavolt Smash relatively unharmed. Also the lake vaporization in their durability section needs to be removed from their profile as it has been retconned due to the redraws.
Your evidence for this is "In my opinion"?I'd like to discuss SG and Metal Bat scaling to Garou. Imo MB scales to Garou and SC scales to MB, so all of them are FTL.
If they aren't minor changes, it would need to be a CRT.Btw, for the stuff in my sandbox to be applied,
They shOuldN't i don't know why is no one mentioning this but SC couldn't catch an helicopter without using his tentacles but even with tentacles the people inside of that plane can seemingly react to itProbably the most controversial part of this CRT. We should discuss whether Metal Bat and Sage Centipede scale to Garou or not.
Tbf, Iron Man has another 6-C feat to scale to, which is why he's not At most 6-C, whereas the Ninja Bros don't have such a thing.True, but again we still treat giving someone scratch damage as scaling in some capacity like with MCU Iron Man's 6-C key.
I don’t think Bang and EC should scale tbh, as Bang was only fighting a sleeping Garou, and, as we know, Garou gets stronger through reactive evolution.
Meh, he will get his Class Z/Y during Serious Table Flip anywaydisagree with giving Saitama Class E scaling to EOW.
I already talked with NikHelton, he is going to change the 4.3 value to 7.55, the average between 4.3 and 10.8.Nobody seems to have problems with 5-C scaling. I am still iffy towards 4.3 value though.
Is this against rules? Both you and Damage mentioned this.You put way too many things in just one thread.
Agreed.personally I would have preferred if a CRT had been made for the High 6-B calc first
What will the durability of ENW and ENO be? Will both be unknown?
Will EC, Bang, and Genos scale to 6-C? Pretty much everyone besides Lord Tracer and me agrees to this.
Will Metal Bat and Garou fully scale to High 6-B value or half of it?
Will High 6-B ratings be solid or possibly/likely? Damage mentioned that MX3 has problems with the calc and NikHelton seems to agree with "likely" rating.
Sure, chill.Your evidence for this is "In my opinion"?
Bang got knocked out after a long fight between the two.Really? Who agrees? Bang scaling is ridiculous. He got incapacitated by a tap from Garou who evolved even further after fighting him.
Wait, what? They never fought. (Ignore me if my comment derails from the OP)EC scales to Awakening Breath Bang
But Bang thought he needed to use Awakening Breath to face EC. He talked about putting his life on line or something like that iirc.Wait, what? They never fought
Bang felt that he needed to go Awakening Breath in order to beat Post Molt ECWait, what? They never fought. (Ignore me if my comment derails from the OP)
What kind of results would the feat give? If it is something lower, it would probably remove scaling issuesAnother thing, the calculation of Genos 0.29c is completely wrong, it was done years ago.