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Is there such a panel... or are you talking about Blendin's scan?
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MASSIVE Gravity Falls Upgrade
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If you are talking about blendin's scan, I take it from the special edition journal 3. (it is also in the regular journal, but it was given in encryption, here is the decrypted version (get page the bottom ), the same)
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What a disappointment. That was claimed to be Ford the one possessed, not Blendin. That just tells what happened in the show, Bill possessed Blendin, went back in time and made a rip in the universe that would later destroy the universe. It's no 3-A feat w/o a built up and for durability too, if anything it downgrades the Low 2-C rip into 3-A as Blendin awoke, went to the future and then one of this takes happened
- the universe was destroyed, but in the future it later gets better, so the Time Police is able to see that to go back in time to stop Bill
- or the universe was never destroyed, in the future they fear that Bill might destroy it and go back in time to stop him, Bill kills Time Baby and later his rip destroys the universe, and Blendin is able to see this from somewhere in time as he escaped as shown in the show.
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0:26 to 0:28 he was stated to be breaking the rules of space time and 0:30 to 0:43, it was stated to be ale to destroy the dimension if he continues, aka space time
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This is just becoming ridiculous, is really reaching just to make Bill not even Tier 2 tbh. The whole existence reffered to all the verse, since Time Baby knows about stuff like the space-time and parallel dimensions (heck, he even comes from another dimension), ergo the rift (or Weirdmageddon as stated in the other thread) should still be Low 1-C.
Anyway this thread is becoming a mess along with the other one. Both should be closed for a new and more organized thread.
Anyway this thread is becoming a mess along with the other one. Both should be closed for a new and more organized thread.
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hey If you told me that, I don't remember ever saying Ford, ı always say Blendin scan
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Wank to point out.
He didn't say that.
It was rejected in that thread and others that came before it, which it just so happen you're not pointing out.
We have all we need to downgrade Bill, the rest agreed on here was already done and I only unlocked the thread because the 3-A stuff looked legit to add along it. It's too bad that people doesn't like it, but most here are also severely misinformed of how even our tiering works so
If anyone doesn't like the mess then they can avoid adding fire to it by commenting something that will end up being pointless.
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What?
He said dude, what do u mean? first of all we heard the time guard saying that bill was breaking the rules of space and time and we have time baby saying that if Bill rip in the dimension continues, he would destroy the fabric of the existence, so, breaking the rules of space and time + rip destroying the fabric of the existence results in tier 2
also yeah, i misheard continues to continuum, but the context doesnt change, bill powers was breaking the rules of space time literally because his rip was going to destroy the entire fabric of existence, as stated by time baby
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So, how will it be the current tier and explanation?
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The note below pointing out how Bill being a threat doesn't mean 2-A should also point out how Blendin knowing the universe would be destroyed means the feat isn't Low 2-C, for the people that can't keep up with that much common sense.
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What exactly should be done if the two sides cannot agree with each other?
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the mod side wins
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If mods can't agree then Staff get involved, if staff can't agree then the 3-4 bureaucrats decide
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I regretted coming, and now the character falls to 3-A... I'm a being of misfortune
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Bill should be changed to:
"Unknown physically and with regular powers, eventually 3-A via ripping a dimension (Had a rip into the universe Time Baby stated that, if continued, could destroy "the very fabric of existence" as visualized by an explosion eclipsing some area in space, Stanford Pines was worried that Bill might destroy the universe despite the latter's delusional plans of chaotically ruling it over while causing notably lesser damage and Blendin knew from another point in time that Bill destroyed "the entire universe" because of this events. The rip presumably started with Bill's arrival to that universe, days passed without it getting notably worst, and the destruction would be an unknown time later)"
The note below pointing out how Bill being a threat doesn't mean 2-A should below it also point out how Blendin knowing that the universe would be destroyed means the feat explicitly can't be Low 2-C.
"Unknown physically and with regular powers, eventually 3-A via ripping a dimension (Had a rip into the universe Time Baby stated that, if continued, could destroy "the very fabric of existence" as visualized by an explosion eclipsing some area in space, Stanford Pines was worried that Bill might destroy the universe despite the latter's delusional plans of chaotically ruling it over while causing notably lesser damage and Blendin knew from another point in time that Bill destroyed "the entire universe" because of this events. The rip presumably started with Bill's arrival to that universe, days passed without it getting notably worst, and the destruction would be an unknown time later)"
The note below pointing out how Bill being a threat doesn't mean 2-A should below it also point out how Blendin knowing that the universe would be destroyed means the feat explicitly can't be Low 2-C.
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As I said, Bill was warned that he was breaking the rules of Space Time, and his rift was going to destroy the fabric of the existence itself, it is Low 2-C.
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That was so cringe I just ignored it, being in violation of the rules of space-time just means he broke the law, which he did, it was a cop of the Time Police who said that.
Even if that was some Space-Time Manip, which it isn't, doing some Space-Time Manip+destroying the universe doesn't magically mean all of timeline was also destroyed. If you disagree with this then go and do your own CRT about the Tiering System to try to apply this new info to it, if our standards fall that low then I may as well upgrade Jorgen von Strangle via creating a bomb that destroys the universe+tears the very fabric of time. If you still disagree but don't feel like making a CRT about out tiering then don't derail this thread that doesn't make any sense, that's trolling.
There's a note below pointing out how Bill being a threat to the multiverse doesn't mean he's 2-A, it should below it have yet another note pointing out how Blendin knowing that the universe would be destroyed means the feat explicitly can't be Low 2-C, as the timeline isn't destroyed by it. It can also point out as supporting evidence (as it's too long for Bill's AP) how Stanford Pines was worried that Bill might destroy the universe despite how Bill only told him his delusional plan of chaotically ruling it over while causing notably less damage around in the universe, without destroying it all, meaning that Ford likely knew what Bill could cause.
As said before, pointing out the explosion shows that the destruction was likely quickly when it happened and we should point out how much time happened until his rip blew everything up, as he can't really use it as an attack.
Even if that was some Space-Time Manip, which it isn't, doing some Space-Time Manip+destroying the universe doesn't magically mean all of timeline was also destroyed. If you disagree with this then go and do your own CRT about the Tiering System to try to apply this new info to it, if our standards fall that low then I may as well upgrade Jorgen von Strangle via creating a bomb that destroys the universe+tears the very fabric of time. If you still disagree but don't feel like making a CRT about out tiering then don't derail this thread that doesn't make any sense, that's trolling.
"Unknown physically and with regular powers, eventually Universe level via causing a rip in a dimension (Had a rip into the universe Time Baby stated that, if continued, could destroy "the very fabric of existence" as visualized by an explosion eclipsing some area in space, and Blendin knew from another point in time that Bill destroyed "the entire universe" because of this event. The rip presumably started with Bill's arrival to that universe, days passed without it getting notably worse, and the destruction would be an unknown time later)"
There's a note below pointing out how Bill being a threat to the multiverse doesn't mean he's 2-A, it should below it have yet another note pointing out how Blendin knowing that the universe would be destroyed means the feat explicitly can't be Low 2-C, as the timeline isn't destroyed by it. It can also point out as supporting evidence (as it's too long for Bill's AP) how Stanford Pines was worried that Bill might destroy the universe despite how Bill only told him his delusional plan of chaotically ruling it over while causing notably less damage around in the universe, without destroying it all, meaning that Ford likely knew what Bill could cause.
As said before, pointing out the explosion shows that the destruction was likely quickly when it happened and we should point out how much time happened until his rip blew everything up, as he can't really use it as an attack.
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I agree with Efi.
CinnabarManx421
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Yeah I think this all makes sense. Should we apply this to Bill’s page now since the other thread has also been rebuked?
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Bill Cipher
Bill Cipher is a triangular dream demon who exists in the Mind/Dreamscape and the true antagonist of Gravity Falls, secretly being responsible for many of the most important events of and leading up to the show. Years ago, Bill made contact with Stanford "Ford" Pines, posing as a muse who...
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There it is. I'll ask for his invalid match-ups to be removed, after that his profile and this thread can be locked.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Wait, the Universe WASN'T destroyed yet when Bill did Weirdmaggedon. Why you say in the notes that it did while clearly misrepresenting what Blending and Time Baby said?Bill Cipher
Bill Cipher is a triangular dream demon who exists in the Mind/Dreamscape and the true antagonist of Gravity Falls, secretly being responsible for many of the most important events of and leading up to the show. Years ago, Bill made contact with Stanford "Ford" Pines, posing as a muse who...
There it is. I'll ask for his invalid match-ups to be removed, after that his profile and this thread can be locked.
You also said: "Blendin knowing that the universe was destroyed means his best feat explicitly can't be Low 2-C, as the timeline isn't destroyed by it."
But that is blatantly flase. The Universe wasn't destroyed YET when Time Baby came to arrest Bill, but he explicably said that it will happen (and all of the timeline at that, since Time Baby can't just chill in the future while the Present is destroyed), but hasn't happened yet by the time the Pines stopped Bill and defeated him
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As someone who isn't really into Gravity Falls, I just can't help but be so disappointed in these changes and just the wiki as a whole.
Fabric of existence has always been Low 2-C, for literally every verse on here. And the whole justification is a made up contradiction about the universe already being destroyed. The fact that that alone made it through with sheer dishonesty is disappointing.
And then being a threat to the entire multiverse doesn't warrant a 2-A rating??? I mean if he can only significantly affect one universe, then that just contradicts the whole notion that he is a threat. One is nothing compared to infinity, its entirely insignificant. Not to mention only slightly affecting every universe is again, entirely insignificant, and doesn't fit with the idea at all.
But we just gotta stop the filthy wankers guys, they're killing the wiki!1!1!1
Fabric of existence has always been Low 2-C, for literally every verse on here. And the whole justification is a made up contradiction about the universe already being destroyed. The fact that that alone made it through with sheer dishonesty is disappointing.
And then being a threat to the entire multiverse doesn't warrant a 2-A rating??? I mean if he can only significantly affect one universe, then that just contradicts the whole notion that he is a threat. One is nothing compared to infinity, its entirely insignificant. Not to mention only slightly affecting every universe is again, entirely insignificant, and doesn't fit with the idea at all.
But we just gotta stop the filthy wankers guys, they're killing the wiki!1!1!1
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This is why I stopped caring about Gravity Falls on this site, VBW just hates the verse and it shows.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Same. I figured it would be best for me to simply ignore the verse since it's hopelessly downplayed here
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Being a threat to the entire Multiverse has a contradiction, but what do I know? im just here for the show.
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Like I didn't had the time to follow this mess unfold, but they literally give it a 3-A reasoning based on an already refuted reasoning
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Yeah, I agree on that end, I am a big opponent of Gravity Falls but it should probably be Low 2-C via rift
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''haha i call things as cringe, looks how i am cool
''Yes, he break the violations of space-time, and the Reason was literally because Bill Rip was going to destroy the entire fabric of the existence itself, which is a proof to be Low 2-C, cuz as I said, violating the rules of space time + destroying the fabric of the existence.
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You're literally ignoring things, the fact that Bill was violating the laws of space-time is linked to the fact that the Rip was going to destroy the fabric of the existence, which the context shows to be a Space-Time Continuum if we use what the Cop said (violating the laws of space-time) and what Time Baby said (destroying the fabric of the existence''
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Also, I'm not saying that it should be a solid ''low 2-c'', i guess that even a ''3-A, possibly low 2-c'' should work
