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I have raw and translation of this, and it says superspeed.
Someone should check the raws for this
I asked for a translation of this months ago.
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MASHLE: Magic and Muscles Discussion Thread
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I asked for a translation of this months ago.
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I mean it makes sense on why IZ deemed Space Magic lesser than darkness and time. I mean, time magic is time magic, and apparently Adam Job's section in the fanbook says that dark magic can destroy the world (do note that I only get this information from that video I posted a while back, where the person had some translations on that section). So if he has two magic types that are considered the best, then he wouldn't see any use in using the lesser magic.
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Space magic simply crushed dark magic. From what was shown in the work, the EE of spaces surpasses the dark.
Furthermore, the fanbook explained what black partisan was all about and why it was never used again?
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We should just put that in separately in their profiles? Beside I'm planning on making Advanced abilities only for DV
He considers Dot and Finn as boring and only started using 30% against Finn and Rayne combo
Which one shot chapter are you talking about?
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More so that Wahlberg is more powerful than Adam, so his space magic overpowered Adam's dark magic. Let's say if Innocent Zero were to use dark magic against Waglberg, IZ would win in that clash.
Oh don't worry the ankme fixed that by just not mentioning it yarharhar
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As in separating physical skills from magic skills?
What would be included there, if you dont mind telling us
Dont you mean Dot and Lance? Also where did we swe him use 30% in the text? He only bumped himself up to 50% after both Rayne and Finn showed off their capabilities as a form of respect.
The post series one. Should be on manga plus.
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The anime got rid of the mentioning of black magic. Yeah, Margarette instead just acted in surprise. If you're wondering about more changes, there was a whole lot of stuff added.
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So is this an animated episode or is it some event held.
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In addition to having forgotten about the magic of IZ's space (the fanbook doesn't count because it was made after the manga ended, it didn't give any explanation within the work)
The author forgot this below. And it seems that the anime didn't even mention black magic, in other words, it seems like something discarded.
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Never mind we can give Lance a seperate key for EOS
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Yeah my bad he directly went to 50%. Is he talking about Lance & dot as average Mage
I just read it
Most likely Author forgot about this. Btw this is likely forbidden magic like IZ time magic spell which brought back Adam?In addition to having forgotten about the magic of IZ's space (the fanbook doesn't count because it was made after the manga ended, it didn't give any explanation within the work)
The author forgot this below. And it seems that the anime didn't even mention black magic, in other words, it seems like something discarded.
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Yeah, the main cast could get EoS keys. Though I do hope we get future post-series chapters in the future, these characters are too lovable.
Ah, some neat stuff.
I wouldn't say that Dot and Lance are "average mages." Both of them don't instantly die against base Epidem, and they also achieved the pinnacle of magic, Thirds.Yeah my bad he directly went to 50%. Is he talking about Lance & dot as average Mage
Also Doom is so raw here. It makes me want to see his profile even sooner. Putting him in VS matches would be so cool, seeing his wins rack up. Though, I'm not sure on who he could fight.
Thoughts?
eh, from the way its reacted to it could be, but we really don't have any more info on it. The only other person we could kinda say has black magic would be Kaldo with his black flame sword, but that wasn't ever outright stated. I think the anime made a good call on removing that statement.
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Not saying they are average Mage in that sense.
They may be average Mage according to Doom. I mean from his POV
Very small chapter.
I would have liked an explanation instead. Also his Trident does sparks in black whenever he summons it.
Btw I found this in Rayne profile. Can you tell any character displaying this
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Maybe. But Rayne would only be above the "average mage" in Doom's eyes with Finn's help. Without that help, he would've gone down instantly as shown at the start of the engagement.
Every summons has a spart around it. Hell, even stronger attacks have those sparks. Pretty beat visuals tbh.
Dot when unleashing his Ira Kruez negated the tornado spell around him by powering up. Same when Rayne's used his Summons against Margarette, the magic emmited instantly negated the active spell around him.
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Dot with Max emotional Amp Thirds > Rayne Summon > Lance thirds and Normal Dot Thirds > Base Rayne > Secondths Lance > Base Lance > Base Dot
Personally I think this is how scale goes between them
Yeah?
Idk I will look for any Fanbook or explanation for Black partisan. It might work as unholy manipulation or darkness manipulation as a ability
So are we giving this to everyone? Or we just can put that under Three lines activation and Ira kruez activation.
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Black partisan seems to be something that has been ruled out.
In addition to never appearing again, according to @AnAverageUsername, it was also something removed from the anime.
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Well we don't consider anime to be canon though until Author specifies he intentionally removed it.
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I feel like this is one of those instances where it can just be judged with purely intuition. Also:
See, it's a bit tricky. Dot with his Thirds absolutely mogged summons Epidem, who in turn mogged Lance. But do we say that Lance's Thirds power was still out, or was it only his Summons after beating base Epidem? And I'm assuming you mean Max Emotion Amp as the bigger guns, right? Which in turn absolutely overwhelmed Epidem's own Thirds.
Where will you get it from? The fanbook I mean.
I feel like it's negating the spell of your opponent through overwhelming it with superior magic power. Take that how you will.
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Ok I think this is how it works looking at Margarette Face reaction Black Magic is something unholy thing opposite to magic which is holy thing that's why they were shocked. Rayne most likely didn't used it against Doom and Delister due to the fact they are kinda of unholy themselves and it would be useless? They did possess magic due to demon hearts so it's not impossible.
Yeah Dot was on a different level.
I will ask around to see how this works. Let me see what I can find
I think double liners might work? Single liners most likely chat do this. High magic power might be required and energy projection kind of thing. Or we can add this to Divine Visionary
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I think it's more about Margarette reacting to the equivalent of a magic nuke nearly destroying them and their underlings.
The brother's still poses magic with the hearts, if they didn't they wouldn't be able to use spells at all. Plus, we have Delisaster using a dose of IZ's blood to gain an infinite amount of magic.
Ah, hold on, would that mean Innocent Zero has an infinite amount of magic himself?
Someone is bound to have a copy of it. Either that or it's going to be years before Viz releases it....
I think it works for double liners and above. Dot with his Ira Kruez in that arc was described to be at the level of a double liner or something like that.
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Nah it looked more like they reacted to the magic color instead of nuke
Spelling mistake I was trying to say they possess magic due to demon hearts
Final form may be ?
That works
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Do you think illusion induction should be in basic double line mastery or ability?
I included that there just because Lance did it and I hadn't even done the domain part.
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Yeah it can stay.
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Wizards can sense powerful spells casted, or just the energy radiating from from an amplified wizard. I think it's safer to say that Margarette was reacting to that power.
Ah
Not limited to that necessarily, a little bit of his blood gives an endless amount of magic, and Innocent Zero has that shit circulating through him. Plus, we never see him tire, only his spirit broken.
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I'm talking about Black Magic thing. They were specifically talking about that.
I'm not sure but might work.
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Which was removed in the anime. I kinda thought we were still talking about that.
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I mean anime isn't primary canon
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Yeah but I feel like the fact that black magic was never once mentioned again, and was onl for the one scene, only to get scrapped in thr adaptation, leads me to believe that it's just not meant to exist anymore even if it ain't primary canon.
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Finally it's about time @AnAverageUsername @Phsccarvalho
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Mashle: Magic Abilities Page Creation
Please check the Sandbox for a detailed explanation. All abilities are already listed in the profiles, so this page is for consolidating common abilities into one place. Here is the Sandbox (thanks to @Phsccarvalho for doing most of the work) This is how we divide abilities between characters...
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Yeah, was released the same time as the final volume. It has information on every character that we've seen, crazy enough. Also has a QnA, pages over magic itself, timeline of events, a map of the world, and more.
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No way bruh, does it have an imgur folder or nah
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Unfortunately no. You have to buy it and get someone to translate.
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I have the whole fanbook digitally but I haven't made a imgur for it. If I did I would have to translate it which I don't have time to translate like over 100 scans. Unless you guys want me to just post the raws only which I doubt
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Nah, we want the raws
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Yeah just share the raws if you could please.
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I'll try to make a imgur when I have time
