Mashle: Magic Abilities Page Creation

[EldemadeDityjon]

Please check the Sandbox for a detailed explanation. All abilities are already listed in the profiles, so this page is for consolidating common abilities into one place.

Here is the Sandbox (thanks to @Phsccarvalho for doing most of the work)

This is how we divide abilities between characters skills

• Advance Level Magic is applied to Divine Visionary and anyone who is comparable to them
• Average Level Magic is applicable to School students

Importantly

Time stop resistance ≠ Time manipulation resistance, so please don't get confused. Resistance is solely based on time stop; it's not for time manipulation itself.

Feels free to comment on any doubts in the sandbox

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Agree: @Planck69 (Thread Mod), @DarkDragonMedeus (Admin)

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[KobsterHope07]

I believe for the basic level, we can add Minor Fire Manipulation via this scene in Chapter 40

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Please check the Sandbox for a detailed explanation. All abilities are already listed in the profiles, so this page is for consolidating common abilities into one place.

Here is the Sandbox (thanks to @Phsccarvalho for doing most of the work)

This is how we divide abilities between characters skills

Importantly


Feels free to comment on any doubts in the sandbox

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Agree:

Disagree:

Neutral:

Do you think it's good?

I'm still a little worried about some things, especially the details of some things.

Like, what power goes to Lines and what power goes to Dominion. Like, someone can have a level of power comparable to a visionary but not the ability itself, you know? I don't know.

Would Margaret be like "Dual Line/Domain: Advanced"?

Would triple lines soon gain advanced dominance? Since they are by default above Margaret who has the power of a divine visionary, but not enough magical power to be a triple line?

Another thing would perhaps be a more detailed summary, explaining the magic and the marks in a better way.

What is now just a rather bad text that I left to improve or for someone to improve later.

• Damage Reduction (A large amount of magic can work as a cushion to reduce the damage from opponents' attacks[15])

Why is this in a double line? I only see triple lines performing the feat.

• Time Stop (First-class wizards can resist time stop magic. Therefore, Divine Visionaries, should also be capable of resisting it, although doing so requires a significant amount of magic[42])

I think it's better to put this imgur, so people don't get confused about why it's time stop

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I believe for the basic level, we can add Minor Fire Manipulation via this scene in Chapter 40

Yeah forgot about that. I will add that.

Would Margaret be like "Dual Line/Domain: Advanced"?

Yes. Anyone who has statement for Visionary level will be Advanced others will be just average.

Like, what power goes to Lines and what power goes to Dominion. Like, someone can have a level of power comparable to a visionary but not the ability itself, you know? I don't know.

Would triple lines soon gain advanced dominance? Since they are by default above Margaret who has the power of a divine visionary, but not enough magical power to be a triple line?

Not automatically. They should get some relevant statements or feats comparable to Divine Visionary. Advanced level is not given based on lines; instead, it's based on feats and statements.

For example, Margarette and Cell Wars have a fair amount of statements to qualify for the Advanced level.

Lance's first and second keys will only be at the Average level because he is a student and he doesn't have any statements for his skills being at the DV level, even IZ states he will be at that level but not yet during their fight.

However, his EOS key will get an Advanced level because he became DV.

Another thing would perhaps be a more detailed summary, explaining the magic and the marks in a better way.

What is now just a rather bad text that I left to improve or for someone to improve later.

I think current explanation is good enough.

Why is this in a double line? I only see triple lines performing the feat.

Because a double line generally possesses a vast amount of magic than a single line. The feat is done by a triple line, but we do get Wahlberg and other statements for double lines possessing a vast amount of magic. The statement was made as a large amount of magic is acting as a cushion; it has nothing to do with lines

I think it's better to put this imgur, so people don't get confused about why it's time stop

Yeah sure

 

[Arkenis]

I don't like the format. It's unclean, the pictures don't help in the fluidity either. Should just copy how cursed energy page looks,

Remove "none." from the resistances as well. And the pain inducement doesn't need to be said twice if its the same feat.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Yes. Anyone who has statement for Visionary level will be Advanced others will be just average.

And a triple line?

By default they would be > Margaret in terms of magical power, who already has the minimum power to be a visionary.

So I ask twice.

1 - The domain would really have nothing to do with magical power, so wouldn't a triple line have an advanced level by default?

2 - And a triple line that is comparable to a DV in battle? Would he receive an advanced mastery or would it just be a matter of magical power and not having to do with mastery?

Just those doubts.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

And a triple line?

By default they would be > Margaret in terms of magical power, who already has the minimum power to be a visionary.

Only people above Margarette are Sons of IZ and anyone who scales to them and DV.
If so they would get advanced level skills set as most of the stuff comes from them alone

So I ask twice.

1 - The domain would really have nothing to do with magical power, so wouldn't a triple line have an advanced level by default?

Yeah domain has nothing to do with magic power
If character is proven to be unskilled they wouldn't get advanced level.
Normally we can just give average skill set even if they are triple liner.

2 - And a triple line that is comparable to a DV in battle? Would he receive an advanced mastery or would it just be a matter of magical power and not having to do with mastery?

I don't remember a character in the series only compared to DV with just magic power alone.
You have any example for this

Just those doubts.

No problem

I don't like the format. It's unclean, the pictures don't help in the fluidity either. Should just copy how cursed energy page looks,

Pictures are based on the explanation given from manga it's better to keep them so that people will get better understanding. CE page also has pictures though. It is posted after the abilities explanation that's all.

Remove "none." from the resistances as well.

Yeah sure

And the pain inducement doesn't need to be said twice if its the same feat.

Which one are you talking about.


On a side note I can't edit any changes right now I will busy tomorrow. I will do the edits when I'm free.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I don't like the format. It's unclean, the pictures don't help in the fluidity either. Should just copy how cursed energy page looks,

I like the format, I based it on Dragon Ball.

It seems unclean, well, because it is. I had made the format as just an initial version to see more or less how it would look with images.

That's why the images aren't the best in the world, like the first color image above. I didn't even put an image in the middle domain.

I also didn't put divs in the powers part of the Domain.

I hoped that in the future the page would be improved in this sense when I could get help from more experienced people (LoK was banned and the back doesn't have many supporters)

So I also think that the page should be polished before being released in crt.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I don't remember a character in the series only compared to DV with just magic power alone.
You have any example for this

Maybe Dot or Finn? Despite them awakening the triple lines and facing/beating IZ's children, they are still "normal" students (in the sense of not being a genius as a throw) and I don't remember them having declarations of being geniuses in magic or so skilled.

But like I said, it's been a while since I read Mashle so I may have forgotten a lot.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Maybe Dot or Finn? Despite them awakening the triple lines and facing/beating IZ's children, they are still "normal" students (in the sense of not being a genius as a throw) and I don't remember them having declarations of being geniuses in magic or so skilled.

Oh great you brought this up.
Finn is a two-liner, by the way, and yeah, he is only average skill with Double Liner. Dot is also an average skillset guy with DV level power, so he will only get marked abilities, not an advanced level of magical skillset.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Oh great you brought this up.
Finn is a two-liner, by the way, and yeah, he is only average skill with Double Liner. Dot is also an average skillset guy with DV level power, so he will only get marked abilities, not an advanced level of magical skillset.

True, I forgot Finn was just two lines.

But would Dot be an example of triple lines and medium Domain?

If the answer is yes, do you think there should be notes on the page explaining this (like in DB) or not?

One thing I wish I had also done was an example, like there is in DB. Examples of characters with one, two, three lines, as well as in domains.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

It's ironic that I'm clearing doubts from practically my own sandbox

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

True, I forgot Finn was just two lines.

But would Dot be an example of triple lines and medium Domain?

Regarding Dot lines because of author forgetting to draw lines I don't know. It might be 2 lines + Ira Kreuz?

If the answer is yes, do you think there should be notes on the page explaining this (like in DB) or not?

We can put that in the character profiles directly?
Finn and Dot are the only one who reached that level raw power without skills. So it should be fine.

One thing I wish I had also done was an example, like there is in DB. Examples of characters with one, two, three lines, as well as in domains.

You can still place them now it wouldn't take much time..

 

[Arkenis]

Here's some pictures that can go instead of the ones there.

I'd also prefer it be titled Mages (Mashle: Magic and Muscles) as the page name
This gif would fit nicely

Though I can see these being for magic also

If there's some gif that's more appropriate though we can use it instead.

Liners should also just be these

Couldn't find one for when it manifests

Seconds

Thirds

or

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Regarding Dot lines because of author forgetting to draw lines I don't know. It might be 2 lines + Ira Kreuz?

Dot is capable of using a thirds, and as we always see, it is necessary to invoke it first, and invoking releases the third line.

Probably the author forgot or Ira Kreuz already serves as a third line.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I'd also prefer it be titled Mages (Mashle: Magic and Muscles)

Yeah that would be name of the page when I create it. I already had plans to name it that way. (Frieren has same page so)

Here's some pictures that can go instead of the ones there.

as the page name
This gif would fit nicely

Though I can see these being for magic also

If there's some gif that's more appropriate though we can use it instead.

Liners should also just be these

Couldn't find one for when it manifests

Seconds

Thirds

or

If you don't mind can you edit the formatting and images.

 

[CodeCCLL]

The page quality does not look very good, <div> should definitely be used in some places, especially in the references section.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Dot is capable of using a thirds, and as we always see, it is necessary to invoke it first, and invoking releases the third line.

Probably the author forgot or Ira Kreuz already serves as a third line.

Yes, the Ira Kruez does count as a second line, it's just more reliant on the emotional state of the bearer

 

[Arkenis]

Okay, I've updated the sandbox. The gif weren't working though, apparently they are all too high-quality lmao so I've put stills of the characters.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Okay, I've updated the sandbox. The gif weren't working though, apparently they are all too high-quality lmao so I've put stills of the characters.

Too peak to work

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Updated the fire manipulation and time stop scan. If no one has any more issues I'm going to call the staff for evaluation.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Honestly, I prefer the old scans.

Although they may not be so well cropped, at least the scan itself explained a little of the context. Like brands.

I also think the gifs are too big.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Some other stuffs to be added. I think all of these belong to the Average Level:

Animal Telepathy: Volume 10 Bonus Stuff

Empathetic Manipulation: Chapter 162.1

Flight: Chapter 4

Lock Opening Spell (Don’t know if there is a power on the site that fits it): Chapter 4

 

[Arkenis]

Ira Kreuz should be removed tbh

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Ira Kreuz should be removed tbh

why?

 

[Arkenis]

why?

It's for one character is it not? The phy pages are meant to include stuff all or some can do.

 

[KobsterHope07]

why?

Probably because only Dot fits that category from the entire series.

Looking at the section, the Danmaku and Speed Boost are things unique to Dot specifically given his personal magic is explosion

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Some other stuffs to be added. I think all of these belong to the Average Level:

Animal Telepathy: Volume 10 Bonus Stuff

Empathetic Manipulation: Chapter 162.1

Flight: Chapter 4

Lock Opening Spell (Don’t know if there is a power on the site that fits it): Chapter 4

Hey feel free to add it to the Sandbox. If no one added these I will do it myself tomorrow. Kinda busy today.

Ira Kreuz should be removed tbh

Keep that for now until Dot profile is updated. It will be hard to find the scans and explanation again. But I agree with removing it.

 

[Arkenis]

Keep that for now until Dot profile is updated. It will be hard to find the scans and explanation again. But I agree with removing it.

Just put it on Dot's when its updated

 

[KobsterHope07]

Hey feel free to add it to the Sandbox. If no one added these I will do it myself tomorrow. Kinda busy today.

Keep that for now until Dot profile is updated. It will be hard to find the scans and explanation again. But I agree with removing it.

I added the changes, including Free Movement (Shown water walking is capable in Chapter 2)

 

[Planck69]

Seems fine enough.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Please check the Sandbox for a detailed explanation. All abilities are already listed in the profiles, so this page is for consolidating common abilities into one place.

Here is the Sandbox (thanks to @Phsccarvalho for doing most of the work)

This is how we divide abilities between characters skills

Importantly


Feels free to comment on any doubts in the sandbox

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Agree:

Disagree:

Neutral:

Agree

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Now that a vote has been received, let's stop changing the sandbox.

If you want to put or add something later, do it later.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Welp, since 2 staff agreed, we can apply the changes

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Welp, since 2 staff agreed, we can apply the changes

I will create the page later.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I will create the page later.

W

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Done this thread can be closed.

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