- 11,552
- 10,976
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
The thing is you are bring feats and stuff but not actually bring many wincons... Mash can't do much and luffy will always use new things and techniques on the spot which means mash won't ever get used to luffy's trick and by that time... Luffy has already become faster and stronger faster than mashIs it yes or no? Because it changes everything
Hmm... Luffy can stretch that but if he is stopping his air supply somehow then yes that can workLike this
To be fair here Mash can also get faster as the fight goes onThe thing is you are bring feats and stuff but not actually bring many wincons... Mash can't do much and luffy will always use new things and techniques on the spot which means mash won't ever get used to luffy's trick and by that time... Luffy has already become faster and stronger faster than mash
Not really... What you are saying is things that would happen if luffy stood stillHonestly you would have to be pretty ignorant to say that
He is stopping the air supply, asphyxiation, causing hallucinations.Hmm... Luffy can stretch that but if he is stopping his air supply somehow then yes that can work
Yes... But not faster then luffy which is what I saidTo be fair here Mash can also get faster as the fight goes on
Just pointing that out, in case if it's useful hereYes... But not faster then luffy which is what I said
Yee but with choking like mash did it wouldn't exactly work as luffy can stretch left and right which still makes him breath... You would need to strangle him with both hands around his neckHe is stopping the air supply, asphyxiation, causing hallucinations.
Oh, doubt it, but Luffy (when losing air) doesn't go down too quick shown w/ the fight w/ Caesar, plus he could always just hit him with a bell in that positionLike this
Monkey if they block off his neck then he cannot breathe, you cannot bs Luffy through getting chokedYee but with choking like mash did it wouldn't exactly work as luffy can stretch left and right which still makes him breath... You would need to strangle him with both hands around his neck
Luffy's sides will stretch... Mash isn't removing luffy's oxygen if it isn't fully around luffy's neckMonkey if they block off his neck then he cannot breathe, you cannot bs Luffy through getting choked
To be fair once more, Mash pulled off that feat in less than a second according to the narration. I know Luffy is made of rubber and all, thus it would most likely take longer, but would it really take that much longer? Keep in mind, I have only read up to the end of Alabasta, so I would have to have some explanations here.Oh, doubt it, but Luffy (when losing air) doesn't go down too quick shown w/ the fight w/ Caesar, plus he could always just hit him with a bell in that position
What sides, the sides of his neck?Luffy's sides will stretch... Mash isn't removing luffy's oxygen if it isn't fully around luffy's neck
When Mash catches someone in this position the opponent loses his perception of reality, you can see it in the link. He can also choke in different positions, like herealways just hit him with a bell in that
No it doesn't... Your arm isn't round your neck. It stops oxygen from the front and the you can't escape behind and the other sides because your bones doesn't let you... Luffy can slip through that with the small areas that are left...A chokehold handles the entire neck Monkey
Luffy got the oxygen ripped out of his body and was still able to keep going for a good amount of seconds. He'll be fine.To be fair once more, Mash pulled off that feat in less than a second according to the narration. I know Luffy is made of rubber and all, thus it would most likely take longer, but would it really take that much longer? Keep in mind, I have only read up to the end of Alabasta, so I would have to have some explanations here.
That's if they fully lose their air. Instead of Luffy completely losing his air, his just gets flattened or squeezed, which'll let a little bit of oxygen go through.When Mash catches someone in this position the opponent loses his perception of reality, you can see it in the link. He can also attack in different positions, like here
He has the ability to take people by surprise who are like Raymen, who is able to feel his "immense pressure".
Was Luffy not able to eat Croc the first time? AnywayThere was no way to show the difference in strength during the first and second battle for Crocodile.
Yeah, but now who is faster than reactions is also skilledLuffy's skilled enough to tag a super amped Kuro who he can't react to and slam him while he's visibly going FTE to him.
I mean, Mash was able to hang someone he couldn't even hurt. I don't see how it would be difficult for Mash to make Luffy lose his air completely, since he has a comparable or even inferior body (If not for the rubber physiology)That's if they fully lose their air. Instead of Luffy completely losing his air, his just gets flattened or squeezed, which'll let a little bit of oxygen go through.
FairLuffy can go a long ass time without air and still be fully conscious, like when he was drowning underwater for a long ass time and get his lungs filled with water in Arlong Park.
He increased his speed by generating power combined with the gravity to lunch himself to him fastIn a few moments he was able to adapt to Lance's gravity manipulation and increase his speed
kuro is one of the smartest in East blue but trueYeah, but now who is faster than reactions is also skilled
Something similar to this will happenI mean, Mash was able to hang someone he couldn't even hurt. I don't see how it would be difficult for Mash to make Luffy lose his air completely, since he has a comparable or even inferior body (If not for the rubber physiology)
Did he train or workout or something. What happened between those hours?Mash has already been completely defeated against a puppet in all terms. A few hours later he was able to defeat 3 puppet simultaneously
I didn't understand... What is this supposed to show?At the beginning of the battle against Orter, Mash was much weaker than the strength of his sand and had to sacrifice his tennis shoes to escape. At the end of the fight, when Orter finally takes him seriously, Mash manages to escape from a prison quickly (This at the same time that he had several cuts on his body)
He can eat him because he's sand, but he can't land hits on him. That was a plot point, he couldn't harm him without using water.Was Luffy not able to eat Croc the first time?
If they're both growing at high rates, then what makes it to where Mash gets to a blitzable advantage?Anyway
At the beginning of the battle against Orter, Mash was much weaker than the strength of his sand and had to sacrifice his tennis shoes to escape. At the end of the fight, when Orter finally takes him seriously, Mash manages to escape from a prison quickly (This at the same time that he had several cuts on his body)
Mash has already been completely defeated against a puppet in all terms. A few hours later he was able to defeat 3 puppet simultaneously
In a few moments he was able to adapt to Lance's gravity manipulation and increase his speed
There are other examples. It is certain that Mash is slow in developing his speed (Damn, the guy hasn't left Subsonic until today). But in terms of LS and AP he can go far beyond the normal
Question above plus the fact that Luffy's ridiculous range and attack style is most likely more unpredictable than what he's used to.Yeah, but now who is faster than reactions is also skilled
Couldn't hurt them because of durability, not because of physiology.I mean, Mash was able to hang someone he couldn't even hurt. I don't see how it would be difficult for Mash to make Luffy lose his air completely, since he has a comparable or even inferior body (If not for the rubber physiology)
Don't get me started on his staminacome down to stamina?
Kinda Yes but the thing is luffy has the range and damage boost which is a problem for mashSo what I'm getting at here, is that this may just come down to stamina? They both grow at fast rates, so it may just continue and continue right?
Don't get me started on his stamina
To be fair for the thrice time, Mash can react to attacks even when unconscious, but counted.I have Luffy making him dizzy with a Pinwheel or a Ozuchi, then BFRing him with a quadruple Gomu Bazooka.
Luffy for these reasons
I did not know that.To be fair for the thrice time, Mash can react to attacks even when unconscious
Why would BFR work or even hit mash? Luffy has to stretch his arms over 20 kilometers to do this and Mash can still flyBFRing him with a quadruple Gomu Bazooka.
Yeah I get ya, just giving a little bit of information before the votes start rolling in and I get to make another Mash thread.I did not know that.
Well to elaborate just so it doesn't make it an unfair "he voted for false reasons yadayadayada".
Luffy can pin people into the surrounding area.
He can use Bowgun and send him stuck inside of a building.
He can use Tsuchi and get him stuck in the ground.
He has shown multiple ways to get him stuck long enough to use his technique, and I know for sure that he could make more.
He gets him stuck, then BFRs him onto a different island/country/continent
That does help but losing signals from the brain and getting false information from the brain is a little differentTo be fair for the thrice time, Mash can react to attacks even when unconscious, but counted.
You have got to be kidding meHe can use Tsuchi and get him stuck in the ground.
He meant like thisWhy would BFR work or even hit mash? Luffy has to stretch his arms over 20 kilometers to do this
A little agitated there but eh. But yeah, trying to bury him wouldn't work well considering he can burrow underground really well.You have got to be kidding me
Have you guys at least read Mash's P&A?
Ah yes, Luffy will do that with someone who can perceive danger before it happens, Analytical Prediction, an LS over a million times stronger and with underground mobilityHe meant like this
https://****************/wp-content/uploads/WP-manga/data/manga_617f9817c8904/e09266a89bd0db7c7f2367762eb922eb/018.jpghttps://****************/wp-content/uploads/WP-manga/data/manga_617f9817c8904/e09266a89bd0db7c7f2367762eb922eb/019.jpghttps://****************/wp-content/uploads/WP-manga/data/manga_617f9817c8904/e09266a89bd0db7c7f2367762eb922eb/020-stitch.jpghttps://****************/wp-content/uploads/WP-manga/data/manga_617f9817c8904/e09266a89bd0db7c7f2367762eb922eb/022.jpg
With enough rotation he can BFR
That doesn't really help him...Luffy will do that with someone who can perceive danger before it happens, predictive analytics, an LS over a million times stronger and with underground mobility
I mean, it kinda does? If hes ablebto sense an attack before it happens, he could dodge it, especially when Mash is so flexible he can twist and turn mid-air. He could also try burrowing underground and dragging Luffy down neck deep, like he did with Margaret. Though I don't know how this would work, so eh.That doesn't really help him...
perceive danger...Top 10 arguments
If that was speed equalized he wouldn't have escapedClearly someone who is able to dodge several close-range attacks even with all limited movement will be hit with a spinning kick
Genius