Marvel Tiering Adjustments: 2.0

[SuperAPM]

It doesn't seem to be an outlier anymore given that ByAsura's Recalc of his Model 8's High 7-A feat got High 6-B to High 6-A results

 

[Newendigo]

War Machine, Mandari and Norman Osbor (As Iron Patriot) are the only ones that would scale, I believe.

The rest of the High 6-Cs scale directly from Captain Marvel.

 

[SuperAPM]

They'd scale above them wouldn't they?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I think I remembered one time when Iron Man's calc did get a 6-B result, but was recalculated to High 7-A.

 

[SuperAPM]

Yeah, but the calc neglected to take KE into account with the reasoning being that he only needed to destroy the mountain rather than stop it. But as Asura's recalc explains, this simply makes no sense given the context of the feat itself.

 

[SuperAPM]

Phew ok, Asura's Recalc has been approved by DMUA. That's one thing we can tick off the checklist.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That can probably be used then.

 

[SuperAPM]

Now we just need to wait and see if the High 6-A calc is valid. At the very least a High 6-B upgrade is imminent .

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

The calculation is mathematically and logically correct. The only issue was outlier.

 

[SuperAPM]

Sweet. The outlier issue has also been rectified now that Iron Man's High 7-A feat has been recalced and accepted to be High 6-B, which Ant also agree's with

 

[Antvasima]

So, how should we apply this change in practice? Meaning, which characters would be affected for example?

 

[SuperAPM]

All the High 6-C's would scale to or above the Model 9, as far as I'm aware.

 

[Antvasima]

Here are the tier 6 Marvel Comics pages: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/S...Marvel+Comics&limit=100&wpSubmit=Find+matches

 

[SuperAPM]

Here's everyone that would scale to the Model 9:

Captain Marvel: Has proven to be superior to the Iron Patriot, which is comparable or superior to the Model 9.

Angela: Listed as comparable to Carol.

Rogue: Obviously possessing her powers would put her in the same tier.

Gambit: Listed as superior to Rogue.

Giant Man: Listed as comparable to Carol.

MODOK: Has overpowered Carol.

Mandarin: Listed as superior to the Model 9 upwards.

Moonstone: Coparable to Carol.

Osborn: His Iron Patriot is listed as comparable to the Model 9.

Vision: Listed as comparable to War Machine.

War Machine: Being the superior version of the Model 11, should be at least comparable to the Model 9.


That's as most as I can find at the moment.

 

[Newendigo]

What we do with Iron Man's keys, seeing that at least 2 of them are getting upgraded to High 6-B?

 

[SuperAPM]

His Model 8's tier will be changed from High 7-A to High 6-B, and his Model 9's tier will be changed from High 6-C to High 6-A

 

[Newendigo]

Will the High 6-A feat for Model 45 stay on the profile?

Also, does anyone minds if I request the Iron Man + Mandarin feat to be calced in the CR thread? I just feel it would be a waste to throuw out of window sucha impressive thing.

 

[SuperAPM]

Yeah, go for it.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for trying to get the upcoming revisions organised.

 

[SuperAPM]

Its no problem of course

 

[SuperAPM]

Newendigo

I'm not sure what we should do with his Model 45's feat. On one hand its a waist to just ignore it when it works as a good supporting evidence.... but on the other hand it is a little redundant when his Model 9's feat is far more reliable for scaling, and wasn't the absolute peak of his armors power. I'm fine keeping it even its not as necessary anymore.

 

[ByAsura]

The calc is very strange, though. It's a massive blast wave that moves through space.

 

[Antvasima]

Maybe it can be placed in a feats list lower down the profile page?

 

[SuperAPM]

That sounds like a good compromise

 

[Newendigo]

Yeah, go for it.

All right!.

Here is also a couple of dudes that would scale to Model 8:

• Iron Monger (Marvel Comics)
• Ares (Marvel Comics)
• Crimson Dynamo I
• Ronan the Accuser (Marvel Comics)

 

[SuperAPM]

Ah yes, I did forget about them.

 

[SuperAPM]

So, would it be possible to apply the High 7-A to High 6-B and High 6-C to High 6-A upgrades?

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose so, although I would prefer some more staff input first.

 

[SuperAPM]

Understandable

 

[Antvasima]

Are you willing to ask some of the following members to comment here?

Matthew Schroeder, Sandman31, KLOL506, Zensum, C2 of Omego, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Qawsedf234, PrinceOfTheMorning, Ultima Reality, SuperAPM, Zark2099, Ayewale.

 

[SuperAPM]

I've asked them before but I can ask again if you'd like.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Feel free to do so.

 

[SuperAPM]

Just done so now, hopefully we get some more response

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Thanks.

 

[Ayewale]

I'm a tad bit lost on what's going on currently, but if it's on the topic of the OP's post, I think I more or less agree with everything stated here. To be more specific:

-Keeping the Iron Man armors to their current tier makes sense to me!

-Since Grey Hulk has multiple 5-B feats, I think he should stay at 5-B.

-Upgrading the 6-C gang to 6-A seems far more reasonable than 6-C to 5-A.

 

[Antvasima]

The Grey Hulk is currently scaled to 5-A. Kepekley23 thinks that it is based on an outlier.

 

[Ayewale]

He seems to have a lot more 5-B feats. 5-A seems quite ze outlier.

 

[SuperAPM]

I'll sum up Iron Man quickly as well:

His Model 8's High 7-A feat has now been recalced and accepted to be High 6-B. Everyone comparable to that will now be scaled up to there

This High 6-A Model 9 feat has been approved as mathematically and logically correct and has been accepted as not being an outlier. This is a list of everyone that scales to it.

 

[Ayewale]

Alright, that seems fine. Can you ad that I.M. summary to your OP?